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Thu 28/08/03 at 13:12
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"Hallelujah"
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Dont just post "yes" and leave, I do acctually want your veiws and opinions on this one.

OK, my reasons for this post are related to something we all want but dont have enough of (no not sex) £££, yup money, and how our goverment distributes it. Before we start, I DO realise we have a very stable ecomony, but I still think a few changes could be made.

Lets look at our underpayed for starters. Firefighters, Paramedics. The two are public servers, they SAVE lives for gods sake! I mean these people put there ass's on the line to save others. They are expected to save the day, even though they are up against prank calls and false alarms every day. Does our goverment reward them for their work? Does if F**k! Money wise they can barely support bills, let alone provide for a family! Fire fighters are forced to get second jobs and paraedics/nurses all work ALOT of overtime, just to provide for themselves when they dedicate themselves to others! They do deserve more and they shouldnt have to strike to get it.

Now them, tax. 40%. 40% of all you earn (depending on what you earn i know it can be lower) fair dues, every country has tax, even if our countries is a little steeper than most. Then we loose a further 17.5% on EVERYTHING we buy/sell. Indeed every country has this, granted we are a little steep. Petrol, BLIMEY! No country pays half as much as us! Fair dues, but here's the clever part! If the goverment raise the cost of petrol by lets say 2p. not much I hear you say, well no it ist. But now, EVERYTHING that is sold anywhere increases in price, because the amount it costs to get it to where it is has gone up, so to cover the companies losses the price must go up. Very well, but now the 17.5% they get form EVERYTHING is vaued as more, meaning more prophits. Think about that.

Now then, whenever a conversation is made about money these guys come into it, footballers. These people make a living from kicking a ball about, fair enough its a form of entertainment, but what a living they make! They make more in a year than most make in a life time, do they save lives? Do they worry about providing for there families? No.

Now, I'm not a racist, but I have to say immigrants. We get people sneaking in and illegally living here, they have our worries to, buit people who apply to leave a country for political reasons, are brought over here, given a house and help with there morgage so they can make a living for themselfs...hold on, what about me? I've lived hear all my life, I'm doing your schooling and further education to get qualifications to get a job and get by and this guy just gets it all handed to him on a plate? Dont treat one how you would'nt treat another!

Finally, houses. House prices are ridiculous. When I get a full time job, I'm going to need to find the money to afford a morgage after I've forked out however much I have to every month just to get by.

Now, I'm only a 16 year old boy, a kid, but I know already that when I get older, things are going to get alot tougher and theres nothing I can do but try my hardest.
Thu 28/08/03 at 14:00
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"118 118"
Posts: 1,126
My mum has a job to help pay the bills and that and she earns just over the limit you have to pay tax on and so loses a big chunk of her wage to be spend on ungrateful idiots who winge about miscoloured prosthetic limbs.
Thu 28/08/03 at 14:00
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"Brownium Motion"
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Count yourself lucky, pal. In the 70's under Labour there was such a horrible tiered tax bracket system that higher earners saw 98% of their wages paid in income tax.
Thu 28/08/03 at 13:59
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"Hallelujah"
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Firebrand wrote:
> Your answer is that you don't pay ANY direct taxes. So why complain
> about how they are structured?

Because I will do soon and Its gonna be very tough going.
Thu 28/08/03 at 13:58
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Your answer is that you don't pay ANY direct taxes. So why complain about how they are structured?
Thu 28/08/03 at 13:57
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"Hallelujah"
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It doesnt matter what i buy, the question was who pays taxes and that was my answer.
Thu 28/08/03 at 13:57
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"Infantalised Forums"
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unknown kernel wrote:
> Me. I think Gordon Brown is an immigrant.
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Buuuuuuurn him.
Coming over 'ere and punching our yokels
Thu 28/08/03 at 13:55
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Mr Pínk wrote:
> I dont buy my clothes.

What do you buy then? Computer games, CD singles and Hubba Bubba? I really don't see how you have any right to complain about the economy!
Thu 28/08/03 at 13:55
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"relocated"
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Goatboy wrote:
> Who here actually pays taxes? Just out of interest.

Me. I think Gordon Brown is an immigrant.
Thu 28/08/03 at 13:54
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"Hallelujah"
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Firebrand wrote:
> Mr Pínk wrote:
> I pay 17.5% on everything I buy.
>
> Your clothes are vat free honey

I dont buy my clothes.
Thu 28/08/03 at 13:54
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"Infantalised Forums"
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Mr Pínk wrote:
> I pay 17.5% on everything I buy.
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What about income tax, mot, road tax, council tax etc?

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