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"Hussein boys dead?"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3087121.stm

Well, maybe. I doubt it for some reason.

And part of me can't help but think it's all a ploy.

At last, a person on the forum who doesn't expect Iraq to be rebuilt and democracy established, along with a health service, power, electricity, sanitatation and a Star Bucks in matter of months...

And someone please ban ebeim24.

> Goatboy wrote:
> "Maybe not? Maybe they'd love us if we restored power,
> sanitation, law and order and a government?"
> "Hell, we're not Romans soldier, pass me ma M16"



While your comparisons are fairly astute and humorous, I am sure that after the Romans conquered a province for the Empire (same with Iraq? I am undecided...) they didn't build sanitation and law overnight there, the Americans need more than a few months just as I am sure the Romans needed. Plus the Romans didn't have to worry about power. Or establishing democracy, meerly bribing the local warlords and slaughtering anyone who stood in the way of the Emperor, at least the US has to go to an effort to decieve its public rather where as all the Roman government had to do was put on a new gladiator show.

Seriously, while you (any forum user here, no one specific) may not aprove (to say the least) of the 'Coalition' invading Iraq, I find it absurd that people think it would be rebuilt to the glory days of Babylonia overnight. Why isn't there a complete democracy? Lol, you don't just build a new representative government overnight. I think these kind of judgements can only realistically be made in 10 years time. Think how long the Allies were in Germany rebuilding. Of course in this case you would (not any user specifically) probably argue that we are the aggressors.

I think Americas reputation is working against them before they even began, since they have had considerable troubles in comparison to the British. Though it should be remembered that the US occupies the capital whereas the British control the smaller city of Basra.
But of course you already knew that.

And I know it was humour, I found it funny, I only want to point out some of my own views of what, while in jest, is actually a serious and interesting discussion point.

Kiriyama wrote:
> Goatboy wrote:
> What about Rainbow Six PC instruction booklets? They're cool as
> well.
>
> But the game is unbelievably dire...

Every one is a classic, apart form the crappy console versions and the bugged Raven Shield- and every PC magazine going agrees with that. They're no realistic apart from the shooting phyiscs and damage models. Operation Flashpoint is probably one of the best for accurately conveying warfare - you're men die, often without seeing who fired the shot.

If Stu Francis used the American philosophy, then every time he wanted to crush a grape, he'd crush a young kid's skull with his hands and then suck the brains out of the fragmented quagmire with a straw.

Goatboy wrote:
> "Maybe not? Maybe they'd love us if we restored power,
> sanitation, law and order and a government?"
> "Hell, we're not Romans soldier, pass me ma M16"

Classic.

10 anti-tank missles to kill 2 Husseins, a bodyguard and a 14 year old boy.

I think they cost $125000 each.

And apparently the Americans were shocked after the 14 year old started 'shooting back at us'.

"Sir, we have a tip off. We could use a snatch-team and get them, or we could surround the house and demand they leave? It'll be good PR and that way they can put on trial, proving our committment to supporting an independant Iraqi government?"
"Listen son, bring me a load of troops. And a chopper. Ooo, ooo, what're those big cars that look like tanks called?"
"Hummers, sir"
"Yeah, one of those. We got any battleships?"
"Ah sir, we're inland..."
"Oh yeah, right. Well, just gimme all that other stuff and we'll blow the christ outta this building. These eye-raqis will love us then"
"Maybe not? Maybe they'd love us if we restored power, sanitation, law and order and a government?"
"Hell, we're not Romans soldier, pass me ma M16"
" *sigh* Yes sir"

Goatboy wrote:

> Mind you, taking 4 adults and a kid down with 200 troops, an attack
> helicopter and a humvee seems a little excessive, no?

It's the Ellen Ripley school of philosophy.

Goatboy wrote:
> Joking aside though, I'm absolutely disgusted that most reports have,
> if at all, mentioned the 14yr old kid that was killed as well.
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Obviously should read "havent mentioned"
Curse my righteous indignation speed typing.