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This is a call for my fellow tripods to stand up and claim their dignity back.
For too long we've been cast as the villains. Male dominated workplaces, pubs etc. Then the tide turned and females rose to prominance.
This is cool, I have no problem with that. Except when it's at the expense of male pride of the idea of maleness.
We have lost our way. Or as Tyler Durden puts it in Fight Club, "We are a generation of men raised by women, I'm thinking is another woman the answer".
This is not an anti-woman post before you all start throwing estrogen grenades at me or shrieking like angry chickens.
This is me saying that man have lost their identity, pride, dignity and balls. And it's time to take them back.
You doubt that we're seen as a floundering, clueless emasculated gender?
TV commercials. We're seen as incompetant at housework, useless at social functions and utterly lost. Blokes in dresses advertising kitchen-tissue,a bloke licking a trail of beer around the house to get him to clean up only to fall asleep when she pours it on herself?
And you men know what I'm talking about.
Ever wanted to hang out with mates but you're spending "quality time" together so you don't do that?
I used to, I know this. Staying at girlfriend's over the weekend, used to come back Sunday afternoon to meet mates and play video games. Did I tell her this? No.
Why not? Because she had my balls in her purse. And deep down you know you've done the same. You've kept quiet for an "easy life", passed up being with males to keep her happy. Yet she'll quite cheerfully go out with her mates, or have them over for the evening and you're expected to sit outside the room.
But when you do that, she gets moody right?
It's time to claim your pride back.
All these little books you can buy - for women. "Women are from Mars, Men are From Sperm", "Little book of calm" blah blah blah. Trite nonsense designed to meet certain emotional needs.
Blokes, how many times have you heard this:
"So and so at work is bugging me"
"I'll smash his face off for you"
"No, I dont want you to fix it, I just want to moan"
That's the fundemental difference here, we hear the woman has a problem,we want to fix it.
It's primal, the protector instinct. But it's been bred out of us, we've become domesticated household pets.
We have become this prissy little appendages good for mocking when they're at work (and she *does* moan about you, I promise) and her female mates all cluck and nod in sympathy.
"New Man" - a media myth that we bought. We fell for it hook, line and sinker. We started to think about "our emotions" and lost the plot. Sensitive, weepy new-age men that "understand your pain" and write poems about how hard life is.
I'm not saying we should be insensitive chauvenist pigs. I'm saying you shouldn't be afraid to say "I'm seeing my mates this weekend, sorry".
Or instead of dragging round the shops in woeful misery, say "Nope" and pick her up afterwards.
Blokes dont enjoy shopping m'kay? We know what we want before we leave, we go straight there, buy it and leave. No traipsing around Lakeside for 5hrs just browsing.
But you'll see herds of lost, sad men in Debenhams/John Lewis carrying the bags. We see another male and nod in recognition before wandering around exhaling slowly and thinking about how to get past the boss on that game.
They know this, some stores now have "creches" for men with magazines and tv. They're called "creches". You see how this is working?
We're helpless infants still needing "mum" to help us.
Well balls to that.
I'm a bloke. I smoke, I like porn. I like playing video-games, I like seeing my mates. I like playing my drums (no women at rehearsals, that's Gospel). And I'll be damned if I ever surrender my identity or happiness for the sake of a girlfriend.
That's not to say I treat it like warfare, I just set it out from the start.
I wont do dinner parties, I wont do IKEA on a Sunday looking for lampshades. And you know why? Because blokes dont care about that crap.
My 1st flat, me and a mate. There were movie posters, a Scooby Doo print and ONE plant - bought by a parent.
And trust me, women are getting fed up with blokes acting like ball-less little wimpy men.
You doubt that? Go find a woman and ask her if she saw "Gladiator".
She'll nod and make a comment about Russel Crowe. Why? Because he was nails-hard, fought for her honour/vengeance and she knows she'd be safe out with him.
Take your new-age, simpering wimpering little ideas of what a man should be and cram them.
I'm a bloke and I refuse to shuffle around in a woman-enforced idea of who I am and how I behave.
Men - take back your pride and dignity and stand up for yourselves. It's genetic, it's primal. We're hunter/gatherers, not sympathetic whiney men that take candle-lit baths *unless* you ask us and we're gonna get laid afterwards.
Be proud of being a bloke for chrissakes before we're in a museum.
Chris Martin? New-age fairy man that women think are "sweet"
Maximus? Old school bloke that women want to hump silly and try to tame.
And if you still need proof, ever heard this?
"You're like my brother"
"I really like you as a mate"
"You're sweet, I feel I can tell you anything"
That means you blew it Conan, you ain't ever seeing her naked. Which is the ultimate goal of every bloke here when talking to a woman in a social situation that isn't
(a) Related to you
(b) A minger
(c) Illegally young
Fact: If you're in a pub/club etc and a bloke comes over and starts to tell you how interested he is in you as a person blah blah, he's exactly the same as the bloke that comes over and says "Alright darling, is that a ladder in your tights or a stairway to heaven?"
Men, it's time to make your choice.
Nice, polite, understanding Coldplay type bloke that is a "good mate" and will end up being cheated on because "He's nice but boring" or the type of bloke that women want to "tame"?
It's the challenge they like, to be able to think they broke you like a pony and now you're "theirs".
Be a bloke - dont be a p****-whipped crybaby.
For too long we've been cast as the villains. Male dominated workplaces, pubs etc. Then the tide turned and females rose to prominance.
This is cool, I have no problem with that. Except when it's at the expense of male pride of the idea of maleness.
We have lost our way. Or as Tyler Durden puts it in Fight Club, "We are a generation of men raised by women, I'm thinking is another woman the answer".
This is not an anti-woman post before you all start throwing estrogen grenades at me or shrieking like angry chickens.
This is me saying that man have lost their identity, pride, dignity and balls. And it's time to take them back.
You doubt that we're seen as a floundering, clueless emasculated gender?
TV commercials. We're seen as incompetant at housework, useless at social functions and utterly lost. Blokes in dresses advertising kitchen-tissue,a bloke licking a trail of beer around the house to get him to clean up only to fall asleep when she pours it on herself?
And you men know what I'm talking about.
Ever wanted to hang out with mates but you're spending "quality time" together so you don't do that?
I used to, I know this. Staying at girlfriend's over the weekend, used to come back Sunday afternoon to meet mates and play video games. Did I tell her this? No.
Why not? Because she had my balls in her purse. And deep down you know you've done the same. You've kept quiet for an "easy life", passed up being with males to keep her happy. Yet she'll quite cheerfully go out with her mates, or have them over for the evening and you're expected to sit outside the room.
But when you do that, she gets moody right?
It's time to claim your pride back.
All these little books you can buy - for women. "Women are from Mars, Men are From Sperm", "Little book of calm" blah blah blah. Trite nonsense designed to meet certain emotional needs.
Blokes, how many times have you heard this:
"So and so at work is bugging me"
"I'll smash his face off for you"
"No, I dont want you to fix it, I just want to moan"
That's the fundemental difference here, we hear the woman has a problem,we want to fix it.
It's primal, the protector instinct. But it's been bred out of us, we've become domesticated household pets.
We have become this prissy little appendages good for mocking when they're at work (and she *does* moan about you, I promise) and her female mates all cluck and nod in sympathy.
"New Man" - a media myth that we bought. We fell for it hook, line and sinker. We started to think about "our emotions" and lost the plot. Sensitive, weepy new-age men that "understand your pain" and write poems about how hard life is.
I'm not saying we should be insensitive chauvenist pigs. I'm saying you shouldn't be afraid to say "I'm seeing my mates this weekend, sorry".
Or instead of dragging round the shops in woeful misery, say "Nope" and pick her up afterwards.
Blokes dont enjoy shopping m'kay? We know what we want before we leave, we go straight there, buy it and leave. No traipsing around Lakeside for 5hrs just browsing.
But you'll see herds of lost, sad men in Debenhams/John Lewis carrying the bags. We see another male and nod in recognition before wandering around exhaling slowly and thinking about how to get past the boss on that game.
They know this, some stores now have "creches" for men with magazines and tv. They're called "creches". You see how this is working?
We're helpless infants still needing "mum" to help us.
Well balls to that.
I'm a bloke. I smoke, I like porn. I like playing video-games, I like seeing my mates. I like playing my drums (no women at rehearsals, that's Gospel). And I'll be damned if I ever surrender my identity or happiness for the sake of a girlfriend.
That's not to say I treat it like warfare, I just set it out from the start.
I wont do dinner parties, I wont do IKEA on a Sunday looking for lampshades. And you know why? Because blokes dont care about that crap.
My 1st flat, me and a mate. There were movie posters, a Scooby Doo print and ONE plant - bought by a parent.
And trust me, women are getting fed up with blokes acting like ball-less little wimpy men.
You doubt that? Go find a woman and ask her if she saw "Gladiator".
She'll nod and make a comment about Russel Crowe. Why? Because he was nails-hard, fought for her honour/vengeance and she knows she'd be safe out with him.
Take your new-age, simpering wimpering little ideas of what a man should be and cram them.
I'm a bloke and I refuse to shuffle around in a woman-enforced idea of who I am and how I behave.
Men - take back your pride and dignity and stand up for yourselves. It's genetic, it's primal. We're hunter/gatherers, not sympathetic whiney men that take candle-lit baths *unless* you ask us and we're gonna get laid afterwards.
Be proud of being a bloke for chrissakes before we're in a museum.
Chris Martin? New-age fairy man that women think are "sweet"
Maximus? Old school bloke that women want to hump silly and try to tame.
And if you still need proof, ever heard this?
"You're like my brother"
"I really like you as a mate"
"You're sweet, I feel I can tell you anything"
That means you blew it Conan, you ain't ever seeing her naked. Which is the ultimate goal of every bloke here when talking to a woman in a social situation that isn't
(a) Related to you
(b) A minger
(c) Illegally young
Fact: If you're in a pub/club etc and a bloke comes over and starts to tell you how interested he is in you as a person blah blah, he's exactly the same as the bloke that comes over and says "Alright darling, is that a ladder in your tights or a stairway to heaven?"
Men, it's time to make your choice.
Nice, polite, understanding Coldplay type bloke that is a "good mate" and will end up being cheated on because "He's nice but boring" or the type of bloke that women want to "tame"?
It's the challenge they like, to be able to think they broke you like a pony and now you're "theirs".
Be a bloke - dont be a p****-whipped crybaby.
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The sagacious one wrote:
> It's funny how women often find good looking blokes funnier than not
> so good looking blokes (comedians aside).
Its funny how men always find good looking women funnier than not so good looking women (even comedians)
> It's funny how women often find good looking blokes funnier than not
> so good looking blokes (comedians aside).
Its funny how men always find good looking women funnier than not so good looking women (even comedians)
It's funny how women often find good looking blokes funnier than not so good looking blokes (comedians aside).
I'm just lucky i've got the complete package; looks, brains, wit and my own teeth.
Well the teeth thing is certainly true.
I'm just lucky i've got the complete package; looks, brains, wit and my own teeth.
Well the teeth thing is certainly true.
Equality.
I'll agree that is complete rubbish. What it should be called is "Equality. When convenient".
If you believe the media, modern man has been castrated and exchanged for a meek household appliance that can open pickled onion jars when needed and modern woman is a crusading, omnipotent superbeing that can wash her hair on the bus and command the seas to part.
This, obviously, is poppycock.
You're a woman and you're out driving with your fella. You get cut up and blast your horn. The car in front pulls over an out steps Kong The Gorilla.
What's the scenario?
Us simpering pansies are expected to get out and utilise inherent combat abilities to defend your honour right?
Or the "Are you going to let him talk to me like that?" question.
Men are expected to be compliant, non-questioning servants that should never express our own feelings or wants unless they revolve around the female need.
I'll go you one further.
Those mags like Vogue/Cosmo/Elle that have those little polls in about what women want from men, what turns them on?
"Humour/Intelligence/Sensitivity" comes out top 9/10 right?
So why are all women-aimed calenders strangely missing pics of Einstein, Truman Capote, Woody Allen eh?
Why are they all endomorphs stripped to the waist with straining pants?
Where's your sensitive humour man now eh?
Men should be men, with all the maleness intact and women should admit to themselves that whilst a modern man may entertain you at a dinner part (which men have NO business being at), at the end of the day if he ain't ringing your bell?
No amount of one-liners and poems about kittens are going to save that relationship
I'll agree that is complete rubbish. What it should be called is "Equality. When convenient".
If you believe the media, modern man has been castrated and exchanged for a meek household appliance that can open pickled onion jars when needed and modern woman is a crusading, omnipotent superbeing that can wash her hair on the bus and command the seas to part.
This, obviously, is poppycock.
You're a woman and you're out driving with your fella. You get cut up and blast your horn. The car in front pulls over an out steps Kong The Gorilla.
What's the scenario?
Us simpering pansies are expected to get out and utilise inherent combat abilities to defend your honour right?
Or the "Are you going to let him talk to me like that?" question.
Men are expected to be compliant, non-questioning servants that should never express our own feelings or wants unless they revolve around the female need.
I'll go you one further.
Those mags like Vogue/Cosmo/Elle that have those little polls in about what women want from men, what turns them on?
"Humour/Intelligence/Sensitivity" comes out top 9/10 right?
So why are all women-aimed calenders strangely missing pics of Einstein, Truman Capote, Woody Allen eh?
Why are they all endomorphs stripped to the waist with straining pants?
Where's your sensitive humour man now eh?
Men should be men, with all the maleness intact and women should admit to themselves that whilst a modern man may entertain you at a dinner part (which men have NO business being at), at the end of the day if he ain't ringing your bell?
No amount of one-liners and poems about kittens are going to save that relationship
Rosalind wrote:
> Rosalind Franklin worked with Watson and Crick on the discovery of the
> double helix of DNA. The reasons that she isn't remembered along with
> them is because she dies before they were awarded the nobel prize, and
> Nobel prizes cannot be awarded posthumously. I should guess that
> being a woman didn't help her cause to much either.
I stand corrected.
So she worked with them huh? Making tea for them and stuff I presume.
;)
> Rosalind Franklin worked with Watson and Crick on the discovery of the
> double helix of DNA. The reasons that she isn't remembered along with
> them is because she dies before they were awarded the nobel prize, and
> Nobel prizes cannot be awarded posthumously. I should guess that
> being a woman didn't help her cause to much either.
I stand corrected.
So she worked with them huh? Making tea for them and stuff I presume.
;)
Christanious Mincefire wrote:
> b0llo
> rosalind and mystique would back me on this. as would most intellegent
> non-Bigoted members of the forum. you are talking complete and utter
> tripe. Shut Up.
Really? Who invented the computer you just used to type that message or managed to come up with a way of creating electricity to run it?
There is a point to my so called bigotry. The fact that men have had their "masculinity" questioned in the last twenty years or so is due to the whole issue of equality. Everyone esposes equal rights. But things are not equal.
Science has proven men have larger brains, higher IQs and are stronger. That is a fact, it's not demeaning women. Another fact is that black people tend to make better athletes; they have better developed muscle defintion (their "twitch muscles" are finely honed making them better sprinters etc) and usually have greater stamina than white people. This isn't racist is it? It is an acknowledgement of their physical superiority. However as soon as someone says "black", "women", whatever, people are ready to pounce on whatever is said, deeming it derogatory if it appears to undermine "them" in anyway.
"My response in here was an amused chuckle, because the gist of my male manifesto wasn't to criticise women at all - but to criticise us men for losing sight of things.
Ironic really"
I agree. I'm obviously being silly and I know I am, however I haven't a decent argument for ages...
It's about time I did something controversial on this site.
:)
> b0llo
> rosalind and mystique would back me on this. as would most intellegent
> non-Bigoted members of the forum. you are talking complete and utter
> tripe. Shut Up.
Really? Who invented the computer you just used to type that message or managed to come up with a way of creating electricity to run it?
There is a point to my so called bigotry. The fact that men have had their "masculinity" questioned in the last twenty years or so is due to the whole issue of equality. Everyone esposes equal rights. But things are not equal.
Science has proven men have larger brains, higher IQs and are stronger. That is a fact, it's not demeaning women. Another fact is that black people tend to make better athletes; they have better developed muscle defintion (their "twitch muscles" are finely honed making them better sprinters etc) and usually have greater stamina than white people. This isn't racist is it? It is an acknowledgement of their physical superiority. However as soon as someone says "black", "women", whatever, people are ready to pounce on whatever is said, deeming it derogatory if it appears to undermine "them" in anyway.
"My response in here was an amused chuckle, because the gist of my male manifesto wasn't to criticise women at all - but to criticise us men for losing sight of things.
Ironic really"
I agree. I'm obviously being silly and I know I am, however I haven't a decent argument for ages...
It's about time I did something controversial on this site.
:)
The sagacious one wrote:
) but you only have to look at the Watson and Crick
> disovery of the double helix, to see why blokes are the better
> scientists. Their female rival decided to take a sensible, staid,
> logical approach to looking at possible arrangments of the helix
> configuration (and all that this involves), taking each step at a time
> and undertaking considerable "donkey work". The lads just
> bowled straight into their work guided by their own intuition and lo
> and behold they used their superior brains to arrive at an outcome
> well ahead of ms Logical. Hence why Watson and Crick are well known
> and respected and I don't know who the bird was.
Rosalind Franklin worked with Watson and Crick on the discovery of the double helix of DNA. The reasons that she isn't remembered along with them is because she dies before they were awarded the nobel prize, and Nobel prizes cannot be awarded posthumously. I should guess that being a woman didn't help her cause to much either.
) but you only have to look at the Watson and Crick
> disovery of the double helix, to see why blokes are the better
> scientists. Their female rival decided to take a sensible, staid,
> logical approach to looking at possible arrangments of the helix
> configuration (and all that this involves), taking each step at a time
> and undertaking considerable "donkey work". The lads just
> bowled straight into their work guided by their own intuition and lo
> and behold they used their superior brains to arrive at an outcome
> well ahead of ms Logical. Hence why Watson and Crick are well known
> and respected and I don't know who the bird was.
Rosalind Franklin worked with Watson and Crick on the discovery of the double helix of DNA. The reasons that she isn't remembered along with them is because she dies before they were awarded the nobel prize, and Nobel prizes cannot be awarded posthumously. I should guess that being a woman didn't help her cause to much either.
Goatboy wrote:
> It's got nothing to do with drinking and fighting at all.
> It's about not pansying out of doing what you want to and behaving how
> you would normally behave simply because you're with a woman.
Well then...I would concur. {:)
But I'm not a "Maximus" guy as you put it by nature...or amybe I've interpreted that wrong as well.
> It's got nothing to do with drinking and fighting at all.
> It's about not pansying out of doing what you want to and behaving how
> you would normally behave simply because you're with a woman.
Well then...I would concur. {:)
But I'm not a "Maximus" guy as you put it by nature...or amybe I've interpreted that wrong as well.
SHEEPY wrote:
> What doesn't make sense?
What does make sense is the question. holes for one, they dont make sense
> What doesn't make sense?
What does make sense is the question. holes for one, they dont make sense
What doesn't make sense?
Goatboy wrote:
> Blast it, wrong thread for this reply.
> (cut n paste to put in in Belldandy's "Why Bother" post)
>
> My response in here was an amused chuckle, because the gist of my male
> manifesto wasn't to criticise women at all - but to criticise us men
> for losing sight of things.
>
> Ironic really
Speak some sense goatboy
> Blast it, wrong thread for this reply.
> (cut n paste to put in in Belldandy's "Why Bother" post)
>
> My response in here was an amused chuckle, because the gist of my male
> manifesto wasn't to criticise women at all - but to criticise us men
> for losing sight of things.
>
> Ironic really
Speak some sense goatboy
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