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Mon 16/12/02 at 13:47
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This is a call for my fellow tripods to stand up and claim their dignity back.
For too long we've been cast as the villains. Male dominated workplaces, pubs etc. Then the tide turned and females rose to prominance.
This is cool, I have no problem with that. Except when it's at the expense of male pride of the idea of maleness.

We have lost our way. Or as Tyler Durden puts it in Fight Club, "We are a generation of men raised by women, I'm thinking is another woman the answer".
This is not an anti-woman post before you all start throwing estrogen grenades at me or shrieking like angry chickens.
This is me saying that man have lost their identity, pride, dignity and balls. And it's time to take them back.
You doubt that we're seen as a floundering, clueless emasculated gender?
TV commercials. We're seen as incompetant at housework, useless at social functions and utterly lost. Blokes in dresses advertising kitchen-tissue,a bloke licking a trail of beer around the house to get him to clean up only to fall asleep when she pours it on herself?

And you men know what I'm talking about.
Ever wanted to hang out with mates but you're spending "quality time" together so you don't do that?
I used to, I know this. Staying at girlfriend's over the weekend, used to come back Sunday afternoon to meet mates and play video games. Did I tell her this? No.
Why not? Because she had my balls in her purse. And deep down you know you've done the same. You've kept quiet for an "easy life", passed up being with males to keep her happy. Yet she'll quite cheerfully go out with her mates, or have them over for the evening and you're expected to sit outside the room.
But when you do that, she gets moody right?

It's time to claim your pride back.
All these little books you can buy - for women. "Women are from Mars, Men are From Sperm", "Little book of calm" blah blah blah. Trite nonsense designed to meet certain emotional needs.
Blokes, how many times have you heard this:
"So and so at work is bugging me"
"I'll smash his face off for you"
"No, I dont want you to fix it, I just want to moan"
That's the fundemental difference here, we hear the woman has a problem,we want to fix it.
It's primal, the protector instinct. But it's been bred out of us, we've become domesticated household pets.
We have become this prissy little appendages good for mocking when they're at work (and she *does* moan about you, I promise) and her female mates all cluck and nod in sympathy.

"New Man" - a media myth that we bought. We fell for it hook, line and sinker. We started to think about "our emotions" and lost the plot. Sensitive, weepy new-age men that "understand your pain" and write poems about how hard life is.
I'm not saying we should be insensitive chauvenist pigs. I'm saying you shouldn't be afraid to say "I'm seeing my mates this weekend, sorry".
Or instead of dragging round the shops in woeful misery, say "Nope" and pick her up afterwards.
Blokes dont enjoy shopping m'kay? We know what we want before we leave, we go straight there, buy it and leave. No traipsing around Lakeside for 5hrs just browsing.
But you'll see herds of lost, sad men in Debenhams/John Lewis carrying the bags. We see another male and nod in recognition before wandering around exhaling slowly and thinking about how to get past the boss on that game.
They know this, some stores now have "creches" for men with magazines and tv. They're called "creches". You see how this is working?
We're helpless infants still needing "mum" to help us.

Well balls to that.
I'm a bloke. I smoke, I like porn. I like playing video-games, I like seeing my mates. I like playing my drums (no women at rehearsals, that's Gospel). And I'll be damned if I ever surrender my identity or happiness for the sake of a girlfriend.
That's not to say I treat it like warfare, I just set it out from the start.
I wont do dinner parties, I wont do IKEA on a Sunday looking for lampshades. And you know why? Because blokes dont care about that crap.
My 1st flat, me and a mate. There were movie posters, a Scooby Doo print and ONE plant - bought by a parent.

And trust me, women are getting fed up with blokes acting like ball-less little wimpy men.
You doubt that? Go find a woman and ask her if she saw "Gladiator".
She'll nod and make a comment about Russel Crowe. Why? Because he was nails-hard, fought for her honour/vengeance and she knows she'd be safe out with him.
Take your new-age, simpering wimpering little ideas of what a man should be and cram them.

I'm a bloke and I refuse to shuffle around in a woman-enforced idea of who I am and how I behave.
Men - take back your pride and dignity and stand up for yourselves. It's genetic, it's primal. We're hunter/gatherers, not sympathetic whiney men that take candle-lit baths *unless* you ask us and we're gonna get laid afterwards.

Be proud of being a bloke for chrissakes before we're in a museum.
Chris Martin? New-age fairy man that women think are "sweet"
Maximus? Old school bloke that women want to hump silly and try to tame.

And if you still need proof, ever heard this?
"You're like my brother"
"I really like you as a mate"
"You're sweet, I feel I can tell you anything"

That means you blew it Conan, you ain't ever seeing her naked. Which is the ultimate goal of every bloke here when talking to a woman in a social situation that isn't
(a) Related to you
(b) A minger
(c) Illegally young

Fact: If you're in a pub/club etc and a bloke comes over and starts to tell you how interested he is in you as a person blah blah, he's exactly the same as the bloke that comes over and says "Alright darling, is that a ladder in your tights or a stairway to heaven?"

Men, it's time to make your choice.
Nice, polite, understanding Coldplay type bloke that is a "good mate" and will end up being cheated on because "He's nice but boring" or the type of bloke that women want to "tame"?
It's the challenge they like, to be able to think they broke you like a pony and now you're "theirs".

Be a bloke - dont be a p****-whipped crybaby.
Thu 19/12/02 at 21:38
Regular
"I like cheese"
Posts: 16,918
So then...would being myself constitute as being a proper male?

Here's the probably answer...Yes, as long as I'm not some pansy boy. :D
Thu 19/12/02 at 11:33
Regular
"Orbiting Uranus"
Posts: 5,665
Goatboy wrote:
> Arwen saving Frodo,

LOL, Not a tolkin original. An invention for the film to give Liv tyler a bigger part.

Galadriel doing some Elven nonsense and giving
> them vital gifts and the daughter of some King?

They mostly help in healing looking after, giving herbs, mothering ways.

> Not exactly sure, been ages since I read the books but I know women do
> ride in and fix stuff.

I don't blame you, Tolkien isn't exactly the greatest writer in the world. Fantastic imagination, Lack of creative writing ability, makes the books really dry.
>
> But mostly it's swordfights and general boys club adventures.

I can imagine you fitting right in there.
Thu 19/12/02 at 11:04
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"Infantalised Forums"
Posts: 23,089
Arwen saving Frodo, Galadriel doing some Elven nonsense and giving them vital gifts and the daughter of some King?
Not exactly sure, been ages since I read the books but I know women do ride in and fix stuff.

But mostly it's swordfights and general boys club adventures.
Thu 19/12/02 at 10:57
Regular
"Orbiting Uranus"
Posts: 5,665
Goatboy wrote:
> The Lord of The Rings.
> With occasionaly assistance (life saving) by female characters.


:S
When was that then?
Thu 19/12/02 at 09:48
Regular
"Infantalised Forums"
Posts: 23,089
The Lord of The Rings.

A big man-gang having adventures with swords and fights and mead.
With occasionaly assistance (life saving) by female characters.

Tolkein had it nailed. But with more geek stuff about pixies and goblins.
Wed 18/12/02 at 16:34
"Darth Vader 3442321"
Posts: 4,031
I'm so glad that I decided to quote Snuggly or my consecutive posts would have seemed pervy...
Wed 18/12/02 at 16:32
"Darth Vader 3442321"
Posts: 4,031
Mr Snuggly wrote:

> So true, so true. Throwing is one of the only things we have left.
> If it ever came to a war between men and women for ownership of the
> planet, we'd kick their butts from long distance by just lobbing stuff
> at them.

Thing is after ten minutes we'd turn it into a competitive sport and end up taking each other out.
Wed 18/12/02 at 16:29
"Darth Vader 3442321"
Posts: 4,031
Also there is the "when is an acceptable time to leave and bash one off in the toliet" senario to contend with.

They don't teach enough social etiquette in school if you ask me, I never know when's a good time to get up and leave. Having to relieve yourself in front of friends, to avoid making a glaring faux pa, is the best I have come up with so far.
Wed 18/12/02 at 16:25
Regular
"TheShiznit.co.uk"
Posts: 6,592
The sagacious one wrote:
> Goaty has a point.
>
> I think there should be more jobs that entail reverse parking and
> throwing tennis balls, that way we'll still have a predominant role in
> society.


So true, so true. Throwing is one of the only things we have left. If it ever came to a war between men and women for ownership of the planet, we'd kick their butts from long distance by just lobbing stuff at them.
Wed 18/12/02 at 16:20
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
P@st@ wrote:
> Goatboy, took the first step to recovery last night, watched porn
> round a mates house,

There is nothing worse than watching porn with other men. Before long everyone is staring at the ceiling pretending they havn't got bananas stuffed down their pants. You can't talk to them, because your eyes take in the bulge, and so you spend your time divided between looking at the floor, and looking at the lampshade.

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