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Thu 12/09/02 at 17:31
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Head over to IGN to read the article.
Mon 23/09/02 at 11:57
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Ahhhhhhhhhh, Strafex is gradually being turned. ;-p
Mon 23/09/02 at 10:00
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I've not rpelied in a while (ironically, you can blame MC for that!), but I'll be back, and this time I'll have the advantage of knowing my enemy! :-)
Thu 19/09/02 at 20:50
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Strafex wrote:
> Mario only uses it to protect himself from MC's initial cheating, by
> using guns, anyway.
> If they were BOTH given the same weapons and armour, Mario would have
> a clear advantage of being more mobile and better at jumping.
> And before you say he can't use a weapon, not only did he use weapons
> in both Smash Brothers games, he was probably shooting in duck hunt,
> as well as being trained by Joanna Dark (who was scoring heatshots
> while Master Chief was a mere wireframe!!!).

What makes you think Mario would still be as mobile while wearing MC style armour ? We're talking about a guy that gets hurt by snowballs and mushrooms. ;-))
If he was behind the gun in Duck Hunt - no wonder the dog used to laugh. ;-)
And as for being trained by Joanna Dark, hmmmmmmmm, I think it would take more than that to get some fat plumber turned into a well trained killer.
;-))

> Alright, so MC wins if he hides in the Banshee!
> MC is only as good as his weapons. He's hopeless without them.

And Mario is hopeless if he faces anything but the likes of some big bad mushroom or a turtle. The guy would probably struggle being a doorman at Mothercare. ;-))

> No, I have flipped a scorpion, MANY a time.
> It's not as easy as the Warthhog (you just go fast over a slight bump
> to flip that one!), but it does happen. And it would flip with a
> "PLOCK!".

Hmmmmmmm, somehow I don't think Mario would be "plocking" a Scorpion Tank mate - even if he is a fat 20st plumber on drugs. ;-)

> Because he'd know that if he was fighting badly enough to be bleeding,
> then he must be DANGEROUSLY ill! :-D

He'd be bleeding within seconds - its hard to miss someone as fat as him.
;-)

> Hmmm...
> Not sure what weapons the Banshee has, but the Arwing's barrel roll
> could deflect normal shots enough for Fox to charge up and lock in a
> homing Smart Bomb...

Besides its usual shots, it also has a charge shot thats fired with the other shoulder button - kind of like a missle shot. You'd never get behind the Banshee to do anything dangerous mate. ;-))

> Mario and Samus could take the covenant while STILL having a
> personality, you know... :-D

Take the Covenant where ? Disneyland ? ;-)) Plus Samus hasn't got the weaponry to deal with the Flood. From the footage I've seen of her latest outing she has enough trouble dealing with one opponent or Metroid at a time let alone a mass of Flood. ;-))
And before you give it the plock, plock stuff with Mario - they'd just rush up him and take they're latest victim. ;-)

> Seeing as they make the minature blades of grass look HUGE... :-D
> Actually, they're so small, they'd climb into the gaps of MC's armour
> and cut off his life support systems.
> MC can't last 2 seconds without his shield...

Actually, Pikmin would burn up on MasterChiefs shield - they wouldn't even penetrate it. ;-))
That happens to the Flood infection and they're a lot bigger than Pikmin. ;-))

> Mario has a certain number of lives BEFORE he goes to the last
> "checkpoint", (last Ghost House or Castle, or last Star
> collected if we're onto Mario 64.)

But MC would be using the power of X-Box, so all of Mario's carcusses would still be visible everytime MC pops off another one. ;-))
At least it could make for a nice anti plumber scene. ;-))

> Don't you remember Mario 64?
> He'd fall in, and come flying out again, screaming and holding his
> buttocks! :-D
> He could fall in a few times before dying, and that's much better than
> MC dying with a single slip...

Thing is, why would MC slip in the first place ? He's a pro. ;-)

> Ah, but something that kills a real person, wouldn't harm a fantasy
> one so much.
> An unrealistic character falls into molten lava and flys out screaming
> and burning but recovers by eating some fruit.
> A realistic one just fries on the spot.
>
> A realistic character is blow to pieces by and explosion which would
> just make an unrealistic one flash a few times as they lost some
> "energy".
> Likewise with bullets and stuff.
>
> MC gets creamed if he gets run over by a vehicle.
> Mario gets flattened, loses energy and pops back up into shape.

But unlike fantasy games where its one shot every 10 seconds, it would be a case of pumping these cack characters with bullets constantly until they're dead. No sportsman like conduct of waiting for them to get up and jump around - just shower the little gits until they stop breathing. ;-)

> Then again, a snow ball can hurt Mario as much as a rocket launcher
> can, so atleast the "realistic" crew would cream him in a
> snowball fight! :-)

Exactly - which goes to prove what a wimp Mario actually is. A 5 year old can take a snowball. ;-))
Thu 19/09/02 at 16:18
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Savatt78 wrote:

> No more of a wuss than someone having to use an invincibility star.
> ;-)

Mario only uses it to protect himself from MC's initial cheating, by using guns, anyway.
If they were BOTH given the same weapons and armour, Mario would have a clear advantage of being more mobile and better at jumping.
And before you say he can't use a weapon, not only did he use weapons in both Smash Brothers games, he was probably shooting in duck hunt, as well as being trained by Joanna Dark (who was scoring heatshots while Master Chief was a mere wireframe!!!).

>
> The cloud is too slow to catch up with a Banshee and plus doesn't it
> disappear after a few seconds ?
> A couple of shots from the Banshee, or one charge shot and Mario will
> be hearing that famous music as he loses yet another life. ;-)

Alright, so MC wins if he hides in the Banshee!
MC is only as good as his weapons. He's hopeless without them.

> Actually I don't think the tank does flip - your probably thinking of
> the Warthog Jeep. ;-) Plus the Scorpion tank has a machine gun as
> well as its usual shell blasts. ;-)

No, I have flipped a scorpion, MANY a time.
It's not as easy as the Warthhog (you just go fast over a slight bump to flip that one!), but it does happen. And it would flip with a "PLOCK!".

>
> I very much doubt he's a Ninty. If he was he'd shat his pants
> everytime he saw blood. ;-)

Because he'd know that if he was fighting badly enough to be bleeding, then he must be DANGEROUSLY ill! :-D



> Unfortunatly, with the difference in ship performance, a beginner
> could probably control a Banshee and blow away your Arwing. ;-)
> Not a dig at your gaming skills, it comes down to the fact that the
> player with the Banshee would have to be worse than cack to lose when
> faced against a ship that handles like the Arwing. ;-)

Hmmm...
Not sure what weapons the Banshee has, but the Arwing's barrel roll could deflect normal shots enough for Fox to charge up and lock in a homing Smart Bomb...


> Kill, kill, kill! That's all Master Chief can do...
> No wonder all the female characters see him as a boring loser... :-D

> Well he's a marine. :-) If he had as much toughness as Nintendo
> characters, it'd almost be an invite for the Covenant to come in and
> take over. ;-))

Mario and Samus could take the covenant while STILL having a personality, you know... :-D




> If they're [the Pikmin that is] that small then they won't exactly have much grip to climb
> something as big as MC then will they. ;-) It'll be a case of
> running over them and enjoying the death under MC's foot.

Seeing as they make the minature blades of grass look HUGE... :-D
Actually, they're so small, they'd climb into the gaps of MC's armour and cut off his life support systems.
MC can't last 2 seconds without his shield...


> I don't see lots of expendable "Master Chiefs"'s! :-D
>
> Well thats the advantage of being MC you see. Instead of having
> lives, he just appears at the last checkpoint whereas the likes of
> Mario have a certain number of lives. ;-)

Mario has a certain number of lives BEFORE he goes to the last "checkpoint", (last Ghost House or Castle, or last Star collected if we're onto Mario 64.)


> Mario still dies when hitting lava, being able to take 1 hit from it
> doesn't really help much. ;-)

Don't you remember Mario 64?
He'd fall in, and come flying out again, screaming and holding his buttocks! :-D
He could fall in a few times before dying, and that's much better than MC dying with a single slip...

> A lot of Nintendo characters wouldn't last long in a realistic game
> either. It'd be a case of them entering and getting their heads blown
> off within seconds. ;-)

Ah, but something that kills a real person, wouldn't harm a fantasy one so much.
An unrealistic character falls into molten lava and flys out screaming and burning but recovers by eating some fruit.
A realistic one just fries on the spot.

A realistic character is blow to pieces by and explosion which would just make an unrealistic one flash a few times as they lost some "energy".
Likewise with bullets and stuff.

MC gets creamed if he gets run over by a vehicle.
Mario gets flattened, loses energy and pops back up into shape.


Then again, a snow ball can hurt Mario as much as a rocket launcher can, so atleast the "realistic" crew would cream him in a snowball fight! :-)
Wed 18/09/02 at 21:09
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Strafex wrote:
> Right...
>
> So first he needs a powerful shield (which is fair enough in some ways
> I suppose), then he needs to arm himself with an array of massive
> weapons (cheating considering he's up against an un-armed opponent,
> but hey, it's the only way this guy has a slight chance), and now he
> has to fly away and hide in the sky?
>
> And you're saying this guy isn't a wuss?

No more of a wuss than someone having to use an invincibility star.
;-)

> Tell him to come down when he's ready to fight like a real man,
> otherwise I'll send Mario up, in Lakitu's cloud, with an invincibility
> star, "PLOCK!" the Banshee, causing MC to fall out, and then
> if he survives the fall (which he won't in his world of realism!),
> Mario will run in to him with a "PLOCK!",
> "PLOCK!", "PLOCK!", "PLOCK!",
> "PLOCK!", "PLOCK!", "PLOCK!", "1
> UP!"! :-D

The cloud is too slow to catch up with a Banshee and plus doesn't it disappear after a few seconds ?
A couple of shots from the Banshee, or one charge shot and Mario will be hearing that famous music as he loses yet another life. ;-)

> The tank is indestructable, but it still flips when you shoot at it.
> Mario hit's it with a "PLOCK!", it flips up, not destproyed,
> but it flips, sending Master Chief flying, exposed for the
> "PLOCK!"! :-D

Actually I don't think the tank does flip - your probably thinking of the Warthog Jeep. ;-) Plus the Scorpion tank has a machine gun as well as its usual shell blasts. ;-)

> I bet Master Chief is a Ninty! He probably plays a Gamecube during
> loading times. You think he'd rather play an Xbox?
>
> I know he's strong and all, but how's he meant to take out the
> Covenant whlie he's carrying a huge behemoth like THAT around the
> battle field! :-D

I very much doubt he's a Ninty. If he was he'd shat his pants everytime he saw blood. ;-)

> Fox is a better pilot though.
> Why? Because I control him! :-P

Unfortunatly, with the difference in ship performance, a beginner could probably control a Banshee and blow away your Arwing. ;-)
Not a dig at your gaming skills, it comes down to the fact that the player with the Banshee would have to be worse than cack to lose when faced against a ship that handles like the Arwing. ;-)

> Why are MS's characters such sadistic spoilsports?

Not MS - me. ;-))

> Kill, kill, kill! That's all Master Chief can do...
> No wonder all the female characters see him as a boring loser... :-D

Well he's a marine. :-) If he had as much toughness as Nintendo characters, it'd almost be an invite for the Covenant to come in and take over. ;-))

> Well if he can do it with fire, water and ice, there's no reason why
> he can't do it with bullets and missiles... :-D

Cause bullets will be flying at him at a lot more a pace then some hovering little flame, ice or water ghost thing. ;-)
And lets face it, that hoover takes a moment to cling onto those so its not the best protection in the world is it. ;-))

> He's planning on blowing himself up?
> He wouldn't see the Pikmin coming until they were on him.
> Sure, kill a bunch of Pikmin as part of self-sacrifice, there's plenty
> more where they came from.

If they're that small then they won't exactly have much grip to climb something as big as MC then will they. ;-) It'll be a case of running over them and enjoying the death under MC's foot.
And if there were loads of these Pikmin, they would be spotted as they would cover a decent area as they run along like zombies. So again, throw a nice plasma grenade and enjoy the fireworks. ;-)

> I don't see lots of expendable "Master Chiefs"'s! :-D

Well thats the advantage of being MC you see. Instead of having lives, he just appears at the last checkpoint whereas the likes of Mario have a certain number of lives. ;-)

> The thing is, he's not that hard.
> Sure he's got all these weapons and armour, but without it he can't
> survive falling into Lava (Mario might jump out screaming, but atleast
> he's alive! :-D), falling from great height, or being flattened by a
> boulder etc...
>
> He's held back by realism.
> That's why he'll never stand a chance against fantasy.
>
> Now Sega characters, they're a different kettle of fish...

Mario still dies when hitting lava, being able to take 1 hit from it doesn't really help much. ;-)
A lot of Nintendo characters wouldn't last long in a realistic game either. It'd be a case of them entering and getting their heads blown off within seconds. ;-)
Wed 18/09/02 at 20:33
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Yeah MC is a cyborg. ;-)

Anyway, onto the post I promised Strafex. ;-))
Wed 18/09/02 at 17:48
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I don't think Mario/MC are even Human, MC is a cyborg and Mario is a cartoon character..........
Wed 18/09/02 at 15:21
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I won't be on again until 9-ish anyway! :-)
Wed 18/09/02 at 13:15
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Ok just read through your reply Strafex. ;-) I have to go out right now but I'll be back later to reply cause it'll take too long to do it right now. ;-))

Expect a reply around 6pm - 7pm. ;-)
Wed 18/09/02 at 11:07
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Savatt78 wrote:
> Strafex wrote:
> I'm not sure what the Banshee is...
>
> Its basically a flying vehicle with excellent handling. ;-)

Right...

So first he needs a powerful shield (which is fair enough in some ways I suppose), then he needs to arm himself with an array of massive weapons (cheating considering he's up against an un-armed opponent, but hey, it's the only way this guy has a slight chance), and now he has to fly away and hide in the sky?

And you're saying this guy isn't a wuss?

Tell him to come down when he's ready to fight like a real man, otherwise I'll send Mario up, in Lakitu's cloud, with an invincibility star, "PLOCK!" the Banshee, causing MC to fall out, and then if he survives the fall (which he won't in his world of realism!), Mario will run in to him with a "PLOCK!", "PLOCK!", "PLOCK!", "PLOCK!", "PLOCK!", "PLOCK!", "PLOCK!", "1 UP!"! :-D

> Mario's Invincibility only affects things that take hits - the
> Scorpion tank doesn't. So if MC is inside it, how does anything go
> "plock" ? ;-)

The tank is indestructable, but it still flips when you shoot at it.
Mario hit's it with a "PLOCK!", it flips up, not destproyed, but it flips, sending Master Chief flying, exposed for the "PLOCK!"! :-D


> Well it might be hard for Ninties with their need for assistance when
> it comes to aiming. ;-)

I bet Master Chief is a Ninty! He probably plays a Gamecube during loading times. You think he'd rather play an Xbox?

I know he's strong and all, but how's he meant to take out the Covenant whlie he's carrying a huge behemoth like THAT around the battle field! :-D



> Again - Use the Banshee, it has much better handling than Fox's
> Arwing.
> ;-)

Fox is a better pilot though.
Why? Because I control him! :-P

> Yoshi's dead as soon as a match starts and Kirby can be burst with a
> needler. ;-)
>
> Donkey Kong's barrels wouldn't do much but he's cream MC in a banana
> eating contest.
>
> Can't eat when he's dead. ;-))

Why are MS's characters such sadistic spoilsports?

> Jiggly Puff would send the entire population of the Halo to sleep
> and
> then draw moustashes on their faces with a felt-tip pen! :-D
>
> Can't sing when he's dead. ;-))

Kill, kill, kill! That's all Master Chief can do...
No wonder all the female characters see him as a boring loser... :-D



> Don't remember the hoover doing that - think thats a Strafex invented
> ability. ;-)

Well if he can do it with fire, water and ice, there's no reason why he can't do it with bullets and missiles... :-D


> No problem, a grenade or two will soon clear away Pikmin, just like it
> does against the Flood. ;-)

He's planning on blowing himself up?
He wouldn't see the Pikmin coming until they were on him.
Sure, kill a bunch of Pikmin as part of self-sacrifice, there's plenty more where they came from.

I don't see lots of expendable "Master Chiefs"'s! :-D


> And they'd all beat him in a "whose name is most
> imaginative?" contest!
>
> And Master Chief would beat them all in a "whose the hardest
> b******" contest. ;-)

The thing is, he's not that hard.
Sure he's got all these weapons and armour, but without it he can't survive falling into Lava (Mario might jump out screaming, but atleast he's alive! :-D), falling from great height, or being flattened by a boulder etc...

He's held back by realism.
That's why he'll never stand a chance against fantasy.

Now Sega characters, they're a different kettle of fish...

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