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Tue 23/07/02 at 08:27
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With the PS2 so dominant, and still shifting in big numbers, have the XBox & GC lost all chance of catching PS2. The fight for xBox and GC is now about survival. Can they survive with the number of units they are shifting? Most people have already bought a PS2. The remainder have 3 machines to choose from, but the number of games for PS2 looks to be the most important issue.
Tue 23/07/02 at 14:07
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"funky blitzkreig"
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Dave RJR wrote:
> But more units sold = more profit (and more users to purchase the
> software for it)

Depends on your costs and your prices though. Sony might sell 2 millions consoles at a consumer-incentive loss (common practice for consoles) and not make money back on games for years. I don't have the figures, but the N64 was a profitable console, and so it was a success.
Tue 23/07/02 at 14:05
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But more units sold = more profit (and more users to purchase the software for it)
Tue 23/07/02 at 14:04
"High polygon count"
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Insane Bartender wrote:
> At the end of the day, Nintendo created the console market.

Actually, Intellivision, Colecovision, Magnavox, Atari and a few others all had consoles out before Nintendo entered the market.
Tue 23/07/02 at 14:04
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Techno freak wrote:
> They have so much experience that they inaffect sealled there own fate
> as console market leaders. One certain company called Sony asked
> Nintendo to produce a Console back in 1992 with them, which would use
> 32bit CD format games. Nintendo agreed at first and then pulled the
> plug (biggest mistake in there history) so Sony said ok we will make
> our own, and the rest is history not even 64bit chip could help the
> N64 from being the biggest c**k up in history using a format that
> belongs in the 80's was not a company with absolute professionals in
> charge.

What? The N64 was a c**k up? Where have you been? Ya know, it's not hard to tell you're a Sony fanboy.
Tue 23/07/02 at 14:03
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nice one!
Tue 23/07/02 at 14:02
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"funky blitzkreig"
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"sealed their own fate as market leaders"?

hmmm.. not sure where you're headed on this one.

As IB and others have said, no-one cares too much about how much plastic you shift, a console's success is judged on profits alone. Nintendo deliver profits. And that's it.
Tue 23/07/02 at 13:59
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Insane Bartender wrote:
> At the end of the day, Nintendo created the console market. If they
> don't know how to manage the market and it's user base by now (and
> they do by the way...) then theydeserve to lose out.
>
> However, Nintendo are absolute professionals, and their experience
> will as always shine through.

They have so much experience that they inaffect sealled there own fate as console market leaders. One certain company called Sony asked Nintendo to produce a Console back in 1992 with them, which would use 32bit CD format games. Nintendo agreed at first and then pulled the plug (biggest mistake in there history) so Sony said ok we will make our own, and the rest is history not even 64bit chip could help the N64 from being the biggest c**k up in history using a format that belongs in the 80's was not a company with absolute professionals in charge.
Tue 23/07/02 at 13:46
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"funky blitzkreig"
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accepted, but you second a motion because it's a phrase. You can second notions till the cows come home if you want, but all the hip kids seconding motions where I'm from :-)
Tue 23/07/02 at 13:33
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Mr. Happy wrote:
> Look that's the second time you've said it. You've got the wrong word.
> It's motion not notion. In debating you present a motion along the
> lines of "This house would blah blah blah" and then someone
> might say "I second that motion".
>
> Comprondez :-)

no·tion Pronunciation Key (nshn)
n.
A belief or opinion.
A mental image or representation; an idea or conception.
A fanciful impulse; a whim. See Synonyms at idea.
notions Small lightweight items for household use, such as needles, buttons, and thread.

*Ahem* Say again?
Tue 23/07/02 at 13:29
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
At the end of the day, Nintendo created the console market. If they don't know how to manage the market and it's user base by now (and they do by the way...) then theydeserve to lose out.

However, Nintendo are absolute professionals, and their experience will as always shine through.

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