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With the PS2 so dominant, and still shifting in big numbers, have the XBox & GC lost all chance of catching PS2. The fight for xBox and GC is now about survival. Can they survive with the number of units they are shifting? Most people have already bought a PS2. The remainder have 3 machines to choose from, but the number of games for PS2 looks to be the most important issue.
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Techno freak wrote:
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Techno you really have no idea what you're talking about do you?
So stop talking out of uranus.
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Techno you really have no idea what you're talking about do you?
So stop talking out of uranus.
Well i wouldn't go as far as giving away both hardware and software! Let the hardware go for a reduced amount, then providing there is software out there for it, you can make up the difference from shifting software. This way, the machine is more attractive (price), and most people will get a number of games for it.
Mr. Happy wrote:
> Right this is the last thing I'm saying in this thread because I'm
> being misinterpretted left, right and centre.
Sorry if I misinterpreted you. I think I agree with you not posting here no more. It's been turned into a damn dirty console war. Argh, how do we all get caught up in this mess?
> Right this is the last thing I'm saying in this thread because I'm
> being misinterpretted left, right and centre.
Sorry if I misinterpreted you. I think I agree with you not posting here no more. It's been turned into a damn dirty console war. Argh, how do we all get caught up in this mess?
WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> Mr. Happy wrote:
> As IB and others have said, no-one cares too much about how much
> plastic you shift, a console's success is judged on profits alone.
> Nintendo deliver profits. And that's it.
>
>
> First time I've heard that. So everyone the world over has it wrong,
> and Sony aren't actually the market leader? Hmm.
>
> Nintendo make massive profit, yes - but most of that over recent years
> is down to their handheld machines, which are a different market.
I agree!!! without the GB and GBA I feel sure Nintendo would have pulled out of the hardware market like Sega have.
Also where is the profit in N64 packages going for £19.99 at EB shops.
Still the N64 games are still the same price a cd and dvd games today so there is some money to be made, sorry that is the way Nintendo made all there money buy ripping the public off with £64.99 software.
> Mr. Happy wrote:
> As IB and others have said, no-one cares too much about how much
> plastic you shift, a console's success is judged on profits alone.
> Nintendo deliver profits. And that's it.
>
>
> First time I've heard that. So everyone the world over has it wrong,
> and Sony aren't actually the market leader? Hmm.
>
> Nintendo make massive profit, yes - but most of that over recent years
> is down to their handheld machines, which are a different market.
I agree!!! without the GB and GBA I feel sure Nintendo would have pulled out of the hardware market like Sega have.
Also where is the profit in N64 packages going for £19.99 at EB shops.
Still the N64 games are still the same price a cd and dvd games today so there is some money to be made, sorry that is the way Nintendo made all there money buy ripping the public off with £64.99 software.
Right this is the last thing I'm saying in this thread because I'm being misinterpretted left, right and centre. I wrote the post to which you refer to show that selling more doesn't mean more profits. As you say it's common sense that giving something away doesn't mean more profits. And that's my whole point.
No-one should care how many units a console shifts, because unless they're making a profit from it, it doesn't much matter. So don't judge a console on sales figures, judge it on whether it makes a profit.
No-one should care how many units a console shifts, because unless they're making a profit from it, it doesn't much matter. So don't judge a console on sales figures, judge it on whether it makes a profit.
Companies want money don't they? Profit and money.
Which company makes the most in the industry we talk about on here?
Answer : Nintendo.
Which company has really badly messed up, and is set to not make any profit in the gaming industry with its current spendings till about 2007?
Answer : Microsoft
Which company makes the most in the industry we talk about on here?
Answer : Nintendo.
Which company has really badly messed up, and is set to not make any profit in the gaming industry with its current spendings till about 2007?
Answer : Microsoft
Mr. Happy wrote:
> Okay, just one more thing to disprove your theory.
>
> Suppose I buy out Nintendo and cut the price of the Gamecube to
> nothing. £0. A free console and free games. Theoretically I
> would sell every single unit I had and every single game. But would I
> make more profits? Nope.
Well duh. To make a profit, you need to make money back on the cost of creating the products. Giving stuff away won't make any profit. That's just common sense.
> Okay, just one more thing to disprove your theory.
>
> Suppose I buy out Nintendo and cut the price of the Gamecube to
> nothing. £0. A free console and free games. Theoretically I
> would sell every single unit I had and every single game. But would I
> make more profits? Nope.
Well duh. To make a profit, you need to make money back on the cost of creating the products. Giving stuff away won't make any profit. That's just common sense.
WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> First time I've heard that. So everyone the world over has it wrong,
> and Sony aren't actually the market leader? Hmm.
I didn't say Nintendo were the market leader, the opening quote was just there because he'd got things muddled up.
All I'm saying is that so long as Nintendo makes a profit it will keep going in the console market.
> First time I've heard that. So everyone the world over has it wrong,
> and Sony aren't actually the market leader? Hmm.
I didn't say Nintendo were the market leader, the opening quote was just there because he'd got things muddled up.
All I'm saying is that so long as Nintendo makes a profit it will keep going in the console market.
Mr. Happy wrote:
> As IB and others have said, no-one cares too much about how much
> plastic you shift, a console's success is judged on profits alone.
> Nintendo deliver profits. And that's it.
First time I've heard that. So everyone the world over has it wrong, and Sony aren't actually the market leader? Hmm.
Nintendo make massive profit, yes - but most of that over recent years is down to their handheld machines, which are a different market.
> As IB and others have said, no-one cares too much about how much
> plastic you shift, a console's success is judged on profits alone.
> Nintendo deliver profits. And that's it.
First time I've heard that. So everyone the world over has it wrong, and Sony aren't actually the market leader? Hmm.
Nintendo make massive profit, yes - but most of that over recent years is down to their handheld machines, which are a different market.
Dave RJR wrote:
> But more units sold = more profit
Okay, just one more thing to disprove your theory.
Suppose I buy out Nintendo and cut the price of the Gamecube to nothing. £0. A free console and free games. Theoretically I would sell every single unit I had and every single game. But would I make more profits? Nope.
> But more units sold = more profit
Okay, just one more thing to disprove your theory.
Suppose I buy out Nintendo and cut the price of the Gamecube to nothing. £0. A free console and free games. Theoretically I would sell every single unit I had and every single game. But would I make more profits? Nope.
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