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"xBox and GC fight to survive"

With the PS2 so dominant, and still shifting in big numbers, have the XBox & GC lost all chance of catching PS2. The fight for xBox and GC is now about survival. Can they survive with the number of units they are shifting? Most people have already bought a PS2. The remainder have 3 machines to choose from, but the number of games for PS2 looks to be the most important issue.

ShadowDragon wrote:
> I second THAT notion.

Look that's the second time you've said it. You've got the wrong word. It's motion not notion. In debating you present a motion along the lines of "This house would blah blah blah" and then someone might say "I second that motion".

Comprondez :-)

In the last 'console war' Ninty outsold Sony anyway.

The Game Boy sold more units than the Playstation, and adding the N64's units sold gave Nintendo the biggest amount of money from the last console war.

Not because their items were over priced, but because, as a company, they solmore than Sony did.


This is going to happen again in this latest 'console war'.

Ninty have the GBA and the GC, together which will probably outsell PS2 and X-Box, so Nintendo will again be the ones with a smile on their face.

PS1 might've beaten N64, but Sony never beat Nintendo.

Dave RJR wrote:
> Wow, if Nintendo made a profit like that much - the hardware +
> software must have been over priced

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No, Nintendo just know how to make money well.

Dave RJR wrote:
> Same goes for the Dreamcast. Doesn't matter how good some people thought
> it was - it's now a dead machine (sorry about that DC users).

Actually, I'm considering getting a DreamCast. And I think the reason that it didn't do too well was because it was released too early. Can you think of any other console that did that? That's right, the PS2. However, the PS2 will survive because of high sales. I think the main reason it is still doing so well is the number of titles. However, I think Sony cheated a bit because the PS2 can play PSone titles. If Microsoft and Nintendo release another console, I think they'll also use this tactic.

Just cause it sells a lot does not mean it's the best. Are you trying to tell me that if Ricky Martin sold more albums than The Beatles, then that would mean he was the best?

If number of units was not important, then Sky tv would not be with us today. With the move to digital, they virtually gave loads of decoder boxes away - just to kick start the user base because they knew that those people would then stick with the service and make use of the software (movies, sport, etc). Same goes for the Dreamcast. Doesn't matter how good some people thought it was - it's now a dead machine (sorry about that DC users).

Dave RJR wrote:
> If Simpsons Wrestling was so bad, why did so many people go and buy
> it.

As you said, people nbought it for the name even though it was a pile of crap. You could say the same about PS2...but that would be biased and not nice.

This is turning into another console war.

If Simpsons Wrestling was so bad, why did so many people go and buy it. The Simpsons are still very popular, so a game was always going to shift loads - no matter what it was like!

Dave RJR wrote:
> Wow, if Nintendo made a profit like that much - the hardware +
> software must have been over priced

Nope. Pokemon and their 'names' make it for them. All companies overprice anyway, thing so, muppets only see how many a console sells - and obviously that must be the best console. True gamers know, Nintendo owns.