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Well they said it wouldn't happen due to the fact Nintendo use mini DVD disk thingimies!
Well you may have noticed they picked the size disk which is becomming the new midi disk sized cd's.
You can buy 8cm cd's at the mo, and burn music to em and play em in a diskman thing.
But the Gamecube uses DVD's you all say!
Check this then :-
www.cdmedia-dvd.com/shopping/cdmedia/dvdr.htm
So how long till Gamecube games are being pirated then?
:)
Well you may have noticed they picked the size disk which is becomming the new midi disk sized cd's.
You can buy 8cm cd's at the mo, and burn music to em and play em in a diskman thing.
But the Gamecube uses DVD's you all say!
Check this then :-
www.cdmedia-dvd.com/shopping/cdmedia/dvdr.htm
So how long till Gamecube games are being pirated then?
:)
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Yeah, but a disc to bypass checks and getting an actual chip put in there are different. The chips won't be available through a 'respectable' company like whoever makes Action Replay, but instead just random shops and stuff. No big chains will chip Cubes. And people are generally more wary of putting stuff into a console than just getting a disc that will let you play Jap/US games...
Don't think chipping will be too big with GC, and because of all these processes Ninty have, could be quite expensive to get it chipped too... so I doubt too many people will have it done...
Don't think chipping will be too big with GC, and because of all these processes Ninty have, could be quite expensive to get it chipped too... so I doubt too many people will have it done...
Sonic's right. All they need to do is create some chip which bypasses the checking process which they cube does when a game is booted up and then it won't matter what disk is in really. Just look at the ActionReplay. That bypasses some check and thus allows you to play American and Jap games!
It won't be long till there's a chip out there somewhere!
:(
It won't be long till there's a chip out there somewhere!
:(
yeah, the 'cube uses a special ''curve'' on the disks. They are hard to pirate because the disks aren't actually dvds, they are a different disk that uses the same principals.
There's no need to chip any GameCubes, not even imported ones.
Once the Freeloader is released, you can play import games on your GameCube and Datel are planning on making a Freeloader for NTSC 'Cubes so that you can play PAL games on them.
So, unless you want to play crap on your GameCube, and aid in the piracy market, and be reported by me hoping for a Crimestoppers award ( :) ) then you will never need to chip it!
Once the Freeloader is released, you can play import games on your GameCube and Datel are planning on making a Freeloader for NTSC 'Cubes so that you can play PAL games on them.
So, unless you want to play crap on your GameCube, and aid in the piracy market, and be reported by me hoping for a Crimestoppers award ( :) ) then you will never need to chip it!
Even if the Cube was cracked, I would not even consider pirate games, and especially not if it meant putting some dirty chip in my Cube...
===SONICRAV---> wrote:
> Look, here's the way you can crack GC games...
>
> 1) Use reverse engineering to find out what part of the boot sequence
> checks for the dots on the disc. Seeing as every other boot sequence
> in history has been cracked it isn't impossible. All you need do is
> compare the boot sequence for a game with the dots with a boot
> sequence for a game without the dots. You know, Cambridge Uni's comp
> sci sourse does a last year module solely on crakcing hardware like
> games and digital boxes!
>
> 2) Make a chip to interrupt the boot, and miss out the bit for
> checking dots and disc type.
>
> 3) Make copied games.
>
> The only problem I can see is that the GC may actually be physically
> incapable of reading normal DVDs. The Dreamcast could read audio CDs
> and GDs, so this was the obvious line of attack.
>
> That said, in Japan the Qcube is, I believe, more popular than the
> normal GC, and this will be able to read ordinary DVDs. Hence expect
> this to be the first thing to be cracked.
>
> There has NEVER been a console not to be cracked!
I beleave it uses two lens one for the dvds(mr) one for the cube games
The thing with the cube dvd though is it uses a special format so only pro code crackers could get anywhere near it.
Unlike the Xbox which has already been cracked.
> Look, here's the way you can crack GC games...
>
> 1) Use reverse engineering to find out what part of the boot sequence
> checks for the dots on the disc. Seeing as every other boot sequence
> in history has been cracked it isn't impossible. All you need do is
> compare the boot sequence for a game with the dots with a boot
> sequence for a game without the dots. You know, Cambridge Uni's comp
> sci sourse does a last year module solely on crakcing hardware like
> games and digital boxes!
>
> 2) Make a chip to interrupt the boot, and miss out the bit for
> checking dots and disc type.
>
> 3) Make copied games.
>
> The only problem I can see is that the GC may actually be physically
> incapable of reading normal DVDs. The Dreamcast could read audio CDs
> and GDs, so this was the obvious line of attack.
>
> That said, in Japan the Qcube is, I believe, more popular than the
> normal GC, and this will be able to read ordinary DVDs. Hence expect
> this to be the first thing to be cracked.
>
> There has NEVER been a console not to be cracked!
I beleave it uses two lens one for the dvds(mr) one for the cube games
The thing with the cube dvd though is it uses a special format so only pro code crackers could get anywhere near it.
Unlike the Xbox which has already been cracked.
you always have to be right dont you ;)
Look, here's the way you can crack GC games...
1) Use reverse engineering to find out what part of the boot sequence checks for the dots on the disc. Seeing as every other boot sequence in history has been cracked it isn't impossible. All you need do is compare the boot sequence for a game with the dots with a boot sequence for a game without the dots. You know, Cambridge Uni's comp sci sourse does a last year module solely on crakcing hardware like games and digital boxes!
2) Make a chip to interrupt the boot, and miss out the bit for checking dots and disc type.
3) Make copied games.
The only problem I can see is that the GC may actually be physically incapable of reading normal DVDs. The Dreamcast could read audio CDs and GDs, so this was the obvious line of attack.
That said, in Japan the Qcube is, I believe, more popular than the normal GC, and this will be able to read ordinary DVDs. Hence expect this to be the first thing to be cracked.
There has NEVER been a console not to be cracked!
1) Use reverse engineering to find out what part of the boot sequence checks for the dots on the disc. Seeing as every other boot sequence in history has been cracked it isn't impossible. All you need do is compare the boot sequence for a game with the dots with a boot sequence for a game without the dots. You know, Cambridge Uni's comp sci sourse does a last year module solely on crakcing hardware like games and digital boxes!
2) Make a chip to interrupt the boot, and miss out the bit for checking dots and disc type.
3) Make copied games.
The only problem I can see is that the GC may actually be physically incapable of reading normal DVDs. The Dreamcast could read audio CDs and GDs, so this was the obvious line of attack.
That said, in Japan the Qcube is, I believe, more popular than the normal GC, and this will be able to read ordinary DVDs. Hence expect this to be the first thing to be cracked.
There has NEVER been a console not to be cracked!
look how much the discs are though ! $51 for 5 of them ! 5 of them for crying out loud ! You could get hundreds of cds for that !
anyway , forgeting the price , i reckon that without the dots no disc no matter what crack some body makes , because the laser could use a bump mapping thing like the does in games. Also , when i recieved my smash bros game from america , it was used and convered in scratches , these scratches were all over the disc , and over the middle bit , when i tried to scratch these off , (i was desperate at the time) i felt lots of little groves , and there was a rim in the center of the disc that the dots were engraved on. When i put the disc in it said "disc could not be read" and the other gobaldegook that you'd expect.
anyway , forgeting the price , i reckon that without the dots no disc no matter what crack some body makes , because the laser could use a bump mapping thing like the does in games. Also , when i recieved my smash bros game from america , it was used and convered in scratches , these scratches were all over the disc , and over the middle bit , when i tried to scratch these off , (i was desperate at the time) i felt lots of little groves , and there was a rim in the center of the disc that the dots were engraved on. When i put the disc in it said "disc could not be read" and the other gobaldegook that you'd expect.
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