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Sun 23/06/02 at 12:40
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Well they said it wouldn't happen due to the fact Nintendo use mini DVD disk thingimies!

Well you may have noticed they picked the size disk which is becomming the new midi disk sized cd's.

You can buy 8cm cd's at the mo, and burn music to em and play em in a diskman thing.

But the Gamecube uses DVD's you all say!

Check this then :-

www.cdmedia-dvd.com/shopping/cdmedia/dvdr.htm

So how long till Gamecube games are being pirated then?

:)
Mon 24/06/02 at 23:06
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The east has always been a blackmarket haven for pirates a lot of Microsoft software is pirated over there and in Russia too.
Mon 24/06/02 at 22:55
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Some consoles aren't even released in China because the piracy is so bad!

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Mon 24/06/02 at 22:12
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Messiah... interesting name... nothing to do with the Messiah chips? ;)

Anyway, 60% of games sold in HK are pirated! Hence piraters don't care if they're shut down, and there are so many of them that it'll be impossible to stop the Eastern trend!
Mon 24/06/02 at 22:05
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yeah but I've always though of as Sony being more relaxed about pirating than Nintendo. They didn't even bother about anti-piracy methods on their consoles, and only took legal action against ONE pirating company. Nintendo, on the other hand, sue everyone in sight. If a pirate does make himself known Nintendo will do their best to shut it down asap.
Mon 24/06/02 at 19:05
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Tony_Blair wrote:
> the disc actually has a layer of thingy on it to stop copying of the
> data and if the copied disc is actually done and put into the console.
> the console will always look for the layer of thingy. and if its not
> there then it wo0n;t play it... enuf said!

For Tony Blair, and all the other people who still think you can't copy games, just read my post a bit down the page. It's a step by step guide to pirate games.

One thing I missed out was how to actually get game data from the disc onto a computer to burn into DVD-Rs. The answer is simply to take the output from the lens reader in the console, and feed it into your PC.

Now, people seem to think that doing all this will be too costly for pirates- NOT SO! Indeed, 60% of the games sold in Hong Kong are pirated- and that trend is followed all around Asia. These crackers will spend tens of thousands if needed to crack the GC discs, because they'll make more than that back if they're the first to do it!

As for getting consoles chipped, someone commented that people won't do it because it's too shady. But the fact is that enough people already do it to make the piracy trade as big as it is! And chip ARE made and sold by respenctable companies! Because their main purpose is (obviously!) "backing up" games, it's actually legal to make chips ntil Mr. Sony Lawyer comes along and takes action against you. The actually selling of copied games is the illegal part of the business.

Sonic
Mon 24/06/02 at 18:22
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Because developers have worked hard to give you the experience in the game, and by buying a pirate you're basically saying you don't care about the developer who made the game for your enjoyment, you just care that you get the experience without rewarding those who created it for you.

(so using that logic it is perfectly okay to buy copied FIFA games... :D)

If I want games cheaper, I'll get them second hand. Or try to win a GAD or something... ;-)
Mon 24/06/02 at 12:08
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the N64 was stupidly easy to pirate but it was never done on a big scale because it was not ecconomically viable. the ps1 on the other hans was great loads of money to make, go to a computer fare get a few chips for a fiver each then copy games on ur CD rewriter. I think that the gc will cost too much so it will not happen. Not that I would complain, all u lot say u would not want pirated games. If they wark and do not harm my gc, I will. £5 per game u could have like 7 times as many games for the same money. I don't see the point of throwing my money away do u?
Mon 24/06/02 at 11:49
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I suppose there won't be an uncrackable console (even GB/GBA carts are being pirated). I does sort limit it down to proffesionals and it should be so expensive to do, that it'll not make things so appealing.

A PSOne game could be copied onto a £1 Cd and sold for a tenner.
Pirate makes £9, buyer saves £30.

These Special Mini-Cd's are costing atleast £10 each, and the Gamecube is supposed to use a special sort of "GC only" laser.

It might not stop pirates but it'll make their lives as difficult as possible and keep the market to the minimum.
Mon 24/06/02 at 11:22
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Gamecube games will be copied, simply because there is too much money to be made for the pirates NOT to do it. I'm not talking the average schoolyard pirates, but the big industry. And that technology will filter through.

As for the price of the mini-DVD's - that's an irrelevant point. Writable CDs and DVDs were also once extremely expensive - but the market grows steadily, and prices soon tumble.

It doesn't matter what they do, the pirates will ALWAYS find a way around it. The only way to stop piracy for people to stop buying pirated games. Take away the market, and piracy dies.

But I doubt that's ever going to happen, because there are too many freeloaders in the world.
Sun 23/06/02 at 22:06
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the disc actually has a layer of thingy on it to stop copying of the data and if the copied disc is actually done and put into the console. the console will always look for the layer of thingy. and if its not there then it wo0n;t play it... enuf said!

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