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PS2.
Now what has the PS2 really and truly going for it now?
Metal Gear Substance Hmm?
Well possibly, that's if you don't have the truly excellent MGS2 though.
But then there is Devil May Cry 2, all those pointless Mario Clones that will never succeed in Bettering Mario Sunshine such as Ratchet and Clank, because lets face it Mario Sunshine WILL be good, great in fact, Miyamoto is on Full Time with this one.
But really, think about it now of any other release that is a genuine buy will also be on Gamecube and Xbox. And when that happens we get better visuals with the GC and Xbox so why bother with PS2 versions?
And its been done before- Burnout it is Visually Better on GC than it is on PS2. Like- oooh so many others.......
Which brings me onto the PS2 graphics, they are sub standard!
The Majority of Games are very washed out looking- GTA3 for one and most have Jagged Edges too, plus the Flickering is appalling in some games.
Face it Sonyphiles, out of the three consoles that is out there the PS2 is the worst in terms of Visuals. The best in Visuals has to be the Gamecube followed by the Xbox. Im not being biased either, but its what I have seen and witnessed and played on EACH system to form that opinion, I own each system and take a very un-biased approach to each, if a game looks crap or plays crap ill not be afraid to say to others that it is crap, full stop.
Then we have the PS2 Controller, which is quite frankly against the other three consoles ranking Number two next to the Mighty Comfortable Gamecube effort. Having Nintendo ideas welded onto the Dual Shock (And inside the Plastic thing) it still gets a little too un-comfortable, which is shocking given where the ideas come from, the left analogue stick is awkwardly placed- fidgety and a pain. And the Analogue buttons are useless.
But lets ask one thing...A beloved machine? yes by countless millions, is the mightey PS2!.
It is only in the position it is now due to its older brother and its older brother was only successful because of Nintendo.
It is loved and cherished for all the wrong reasons, many people out there who stick by it are just too biased, too darn built up with their own mystic fantasies of it that they refuse to sample the delights of any other system. These same people, which the majority are teens, not the Teens that Sony claim to be aiming for but Children! Little children and older children. They have all got it into their head that the PS2 is the best thing ever created, they are the same people who's first console was the PS and never owned a non-Sony console in their life, which makes them blinkered even further.
Nintendo on the other hand have an average age group of 23 who own Gamecube's, consider that. And the Nintendo players have a long history with the company.
Sonyphiles, open your eyes. Sample the delights that is out there that hasn't a Sony Logo on it. You see, what I think is that Sonyphiles are afraid to do that, afraid to sample other machines to spend hours and nights and days on the greats of the XBox and GC in case they are drawn from the Sickly Beloved PS2's and realising there is better out there...by a mile!.
Am I right?
Now what has the PS2 really and truly going for it now?
Metal Gear Substance Hmm?
Well possibly, that's if you don't have the truly excellent MGS2 though.
But then there is Devil May Cry 2, all those pointless Mario Clones that will never succeed in Bettering Mario Sunshine such as Ratchet and Clank, because lets face it Mario Sunshine WILL be good, great in fact, Miyamoto is on Full Time with this one.
But really, think about it now of any other release that is a genuine buy will also be on Gamecube and Xbox. And when that happens we get better visuals with the GC and Xbox so why bother with PS2 versions?
And its been done before- Burnout it is Visually Better on GC than it is on PS2. Like- oooh so many others.......
Which brings me onto the PS2 graphics, they are sub standard!
The Majority of Games are very washed out looking- GTA3 for one and most have Jagged Edges too, plus the Flickering is appalling in some games.
Face it Sonyphiles, out of the three consoles that is out there the PS2 is the worst in terms of Visuals. The best in Visuals has to be the Gamecube followed by the Xbox. Im not being biased either, but its what I have seen and witnessed and played on EACH system to form that opinion, I own each system and take a very un-biased approach to each, if a game looks crap or plays crap ill not be afraid to say to others that it is crap, full stop.
Then we have the PS2 Controller, which is quite frankly against the other three consoles ranking Number two next to the Mighty Comfortable Gamecube effort. Having Nintendo ideas welded onto the Dual Shock (And inside the Plastic thing) it still gets a little too un-comfortable, which is shocking given where the ideas come from, the left analogue stick is awkwardly placed- fidgety and a pain. And the Analogue buttons are useless.
But lets ask one thing...A beloved machine? yes by countless millions, is the mightey PS2!.
It is only in the position it is now due to its older brother and its older brother was only successful because of Nintendo.
It is loved and cherished for all the wrong reasons, many people out there who stick by it are just too biased, too darn built up with their own mystic fantasies of it that they refuse to sample the delights of any other system. These same people, which the majority are teens, not the Teens that Sony claim to be aiming for but Children! Little children and older children. They have all got it into their head that the PS2 is the best thing ever created, they are the same people who's first console was the PS and never owned a non-Sony console in their life, which makes them blinkered even further.
Nintendo on the other hand have an average age group of 23 who own Gamecube's, consider that. And the Nintendo players have a long history with the company.
Sonyphiles, open your eyes. Sample the delights that is out there that hasn't a Sony Logo on it. You see, what I think is that Sonyphiles are afraid to do that, afraid to sample other machines to spend hours and nights and days on the greats of the XBox and GC in case they are drawn from the Sickly Beloved PS2's and realising there is better out there...by a mile!.
Am I right?
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Tellah wrote:
> All I can say is that I'm glad I'm playing FFX, GTA3, MOH:F, MGS2 and
> GT3 right now.
> I'm also playing Pro Evo, SSX and a few others like Timesplitters.
>
> If I had an X-Box or Gamecube, I wouldn't be half as happy with the
> limited originality and quantity in the release schedule, or currently
> in the shops. That's the bottom line for me. On the PS2 you've got
> immense choice, quality and originality in every genre. I know it's
> early days, but other consoles have got limited attraction at the
> moment.
>
> It can't be denied, because it's fact. Go into Electronics Boutique
> and look at the shelves and release list as proof.
>
> It's hardly worth even argueing the case for x-box and GC over PS2 as
> far as entertainment is concerned. There's a couple of games I'd like
> to play - Luigi's Mansion, Rogue Squadron and Halo - but that's it.
> I'm sure GC/Xbox owners have a much longer list than that!
>
> I'll get a GC/X-Box when the day comes that one of them has a better
> games line up than PS2. Anyone think this will ever happen?
Just wait for Pimps at Sea! you'll be sorry
> All I can say is that I'm glad I'm playing FFX, GTA3, MOH:F, MGS2 and
> GT3 right now.
> I'm also playing Pro Evo, SSX and a few others like Timesplitters.
>
> If I had an X-Box or Gamecube, I wouldn't be half as happy with the
> limited originality and quantity in the release schedule, or currently
> in the shops. That's the bottom line for me. On the PS2 you've got
> immense choice, quality and originality in every genre. I know it's
> early days, but other consoles have got limited attraction at the
> moment.
>
> It can't be denied, because it's fact. Go into Electronics Boutique
> and look at the shelves and release list as proof.
>
> It's hardly worth even argueing the case for x-box and GC over PS2 as
> far as entertainment is concerned. There's a couple of games I'd like
> to play - Luigi's Mansion, Rogue Squadron and Halo - but that's it.
> I'm sure GC/Xbox owners have a much longer list than that!
>
> I'll get a GC/X-Box when the day comes that one of them has a better
> games line up than PS2. Anyone think this will ever happen?
Just wait for Pimps at Sea! you'll be sorry
All I can say is that I'm glad I'm playing FFX, GTA3, MOH:F, MGS2 and GT3 right now.
I'm also playing Pro Evo, SSX and a few others like Timesplitters.
If I had an X-Box or Gamecube, I wouldn't be half as happy with the limited originality and quantity in the release schedule, or currently in the shops. That's the bottom line for me. On the PS2 you've got immense choice, quality and originality in every genre. I know it's early days, but other consoles have got limited attraction at the moment.
It can't be denied, because it's fact. Go into Electronics Boutique and look at the shelves and release list as proof.
It's hardly worth even argueing the case for x-box and GC over PS2 as far as entertainment is concerned. There's a couple of games I'd like to play - Luigi's Mansion, Rogue Squadron and Halo - but that's it. I'm sure GC/Xbox owners have a much longer list than that!
I'll get a GC/X-Box when the day comes that one of them has a better games line up than PS2. Anyone think this will ever happen?
I'm also playing Pro Evo, SSX and a few others like Timesplitters.
If I had an X-Box or Gamecube, I wouldn't be half as happy with the limited originality and quantity in the release schedule, or currently in the shops. That's the bottom line for me. On the PS2 you've got immense choice, quality and originality in every genre. I know it's early days, but other consoles have got limited attraction at the moment.
It can't be denied, because it's fact. Go into Electronics Boutique and look at the shelves and release list as proof.
It's hardly worth even argueing the case for x-box and GC over PS2 as far as entertainment is concerned. There's a couple of games I'd like to play - Luigi's Mansion, Rogue Squadron and Halo - but that's it. I'm sure GC/Xbox owners have a much longer list than that!
I'll get a GC/X-Box when the day comes that one of them has a better games line up than PS2. Anyone think this will ever happen?
SMÉAGOL wrote:
> PS2.
ooo a challenge *rolls up sleeves*
> Now what has the PS2 really and truly going for it now?
two words great games.
> Metal Gear Substance Hmm?
> Well possibly, that's if you don't have the truly excellent MGS2
> though.
In my opinion MGS2 wasn't as good as it should of been, mainly due to Raiden but either way the only place you'll find the original MGS2 is on PS2.
> But then there is Devil May Cry 2.
with a 60hz mode :-)
all those pointless Mario Clones
> that will never succeed in Bettering Mario Sunshine such as Ratchet
> and Clank, because lets face it Mario Sunshine WILL be good, great in
> fact, Miyamoto is on Full Time with this one.
there's no defending it the PS was swarmed with Mario Clones, Sypro etc but there's still some decent platformers hanging around the PS2 and I wouldn't challenge Mario as it's a terrific game!
> But really, think about it now of any other release that is a genuine
> buy will also be on Gamecube and Xbox. And when that happens we get
> better visuals with the GC and Xbox so why bother with PS2 versions?
Ports even touched up ports are never as good as the originals, take GTA3 for the PC, My friend had it running on a 2.1gz PC along with 512mb RAM and it was a long way off looking as polished as the PS2 version!
> And its been done before- Burnout it is Visually Better on GC than it
> is on PS2. Like- oooh so many others.......
Malice on the PS2 is said to look nicer than the xbox version because the PS2 version is released after, giving time for touch ups!
> Which brings me onto the PS2 graphics, they are sub standard!
> The Majority of Games are very washed out looking- GTA3 for one and
> most have Jagged Edges too, plus the Flickering is appalling in some
> games.
oh shut up you've obviously seen little on the PS2, take a good long look at Final Fantasy X!
> Face it Sonyphiles, out of the three consoles that is out there the
> PS2 is the worst in terms of Visuals.
and thats the consoles most important factor?bet you had an N64 :-D
The best in Visuals has to be
> the Gamecube followed by the Xbox. Im not being biased either.
true but i think your a little biased, then again so am I :-D
> > It is loved and cherished for all the wrong reasons, many people out
> there who stick by it are just too biased, too darn built up with
> their own mystic fantasies of it that they refuse to sample the
> delights of any other system.
more like These same people, which the majority
> are teens, not the Teens that Sony claim to be aiming for but
> Children! Little children and older children. They have all got it
> into their head that the PS2 is the best thing ever created,
you haven't a clue have you?
they are
> the same people who's first console was the PS and never owned a
> non-Sony console in their life, which makes them blinkered even
> further.
I've owned more systems than i can count but what Sony had with the PS and what they've finally made out of the PS2 is by far the two msot enjoyable systems I've evern owned.
> Sonyphiles, open your eyes. Sample the delights that is out there that
> hasn't a Sony Logo on it. You see, what I think is that Sonyphiles are
> afraid to do that, afraid to sample other machines to spend hours and
> nights and days on the greats of the XBox and GC in case they are
> drawn from the Sickly Beloved PS2's and realising there is better out
> there...by a mile!.
> Am I right?
not really, why don't you sample the PS2 a little more and you'll be surprised.
> PS2.
ooo a challenge *rolls up sleeves*
> Now what has the PS2 really and truly going for it now?
two words great games.
> Metal Gear Substance Hmm?
> Well possibly, that's if you don't have the truly excellent MGS2
> though.
In my opinion MGS2 wasn't as good as it should of been, mainly due to Raiden but either way the only place you'll find the original MGS2 is on PS2.
> But then there is Devil May Cry 2.
with a 60hz mode :-)
all those pointless Mario Clones
> that will never succeed in Bettering Mario Sunshine such as Ratchet
> and Clank, because lets face it Mario Sunshine WILL be good, great in
> fact, Miyamoto is on Full Time with this one.
there's no defending it the PS was swarmed with Mario Clones, Sypro etc but there's still some decent platformers hanging around the PS2 and I wouldn't challenge Mario as it's a terrific game!
> But really, think about it now of any other release that is a genuine
> buy will also be on Gamecube and Xbox. And when that happens we get
> better visuals with the GC and Xbox so why bother with PS2 versions?
Ports even touched up ports are never as good as the originals, take GTA3 for the PC, My friend had it running on a 2.1gz PC along with 512mb RAM and it was a long way off looking as polished as the PS2 version!
> And its been done before- Burnout it is Visually Better on GC than it
> is on PS2. Like- oooh so many others.......
Malice on the PS2 is said to look nicer than the xbox version because the PS2 version is released after, giving time for touch ups!
> Which brings me onto the PS2 graphics, they are sub standard!
> The Majority of Games are very washed out looking- GTA3 for one and
> most have Jagged Edges too, plus the Flickering is appalling in some
> games.
oh shut up you've obviously seen little on the PS2, take a good long look at Final Fantasy X!
> Face it Sonyphiles, out of the three consoles that is out there the
> PS2 is the worst in terms of Visuals.
and thats the consoles most important factor?bet you had an N64 :-D
The best in Visuals has to be
> the Gamecube followed by the Xbox. Im not being biased either.
true but i think your a little biased, then again so am I :-D
> > It is loved and cherished for all the wrong reasons, many people out
> there who stick by it are just too biased, too darn built up with
> their own mystic fantasies of it that they refuse to sample the
> delights of any other system.
more like These same people, which the majority
> are teens, not the Teens that Sony claim to be aiming for but
> Children! Little children and older children. They have all got it
> into their head that the PS2 is the best thing ever created,
you haven't a clue have you?
they are
> the same people who's first console was the PS and never owned a
> non-Sony console in their life, which makes them blinkered even
> further.
I've owned more systems than i can count but what Sony had with the PS and what they've finally made out of the PS2 is by far the two msot enjoyable systems I've evern owned.
> Sonyphiles, open your eyes. Sample the delights that is out there that
> hasn't a Sony Logo on it. You see, what I think is that Sonyphiles are
> afraid to do that, afraid to sample other machines to spend hours and
> nights and days on the greats of the XBox and GC in case they are
> drawn from the Sickly Beloved PS2's and realising there is better out
> there...by a mile!.
> Am I right?
not really, why don't you sample the PS2 a little more and you'll be surprised.
They rarely are better, they just have things like "bonus levels" or "music player". They're never improved.
Mmm, well, maybe. Depends if the game I thought would be much better if it was vastly improved on another console. Oh well, at least MPGs have the choice of picking what format to buy the game from!
I'd rather wait and play an improved version. Wouldn't you?
But the PS2 owners will get to play the game first.
Turbonutter wrote:
> Exactly, you lot are salivating over games that we've played, slayed
> and have a pre-order in for the sequel.
>
> "Buy a GameCube, play 3 games by Nintendo and then hundreds that
> were released moths ago on the PS2"
>
> Muaha.
Your Forgetting something, Gamecube owners will be playing souped up versions of those PS2 titles.
MuaHa to you : )
> Exactly, you lot are salivating over games that we've played, slayed
> and have a pre-order in for the sequel.
>
> "Buy a GameCube, play 3 games by Nintendo and then hundreds that
> were released moths ago on the PS2"
>
> Muaha.
Your Forgetting something, Gamecube owners will be playing souped up versions of those PS2 titles.
MuaHa to you : )
Hey, I was trying to doing the opposite. I'll have to...
Gamecube is best!!!
PS2 rocks!!!
Xbox rulez!!!
That'll confuse them.
Gamecube is best!!!
PS2 rocks!!!
Xbox rulez!!!
That'll confuse them.
Why are you bothering to argue over which console is second best?
:-D
(Sorry, had to give it a stir at some point :-D)
:-D
(Sorry, had to give it a stir at some point :-D)
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