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PS2.
Now what has the PS2 really and truly going for it now?
Metal Gear Substance Hmm?
Well possibly, that's if you don't have the truly excellent MGS2 though.
But then there is Devil May Cry 2, all those pointless Mario Clones that will never succeed in Bettering Mario Sunshine such as Ratchet and Clank, because lets face it Mario Sunshine WILL be good, great in fact, Miyamoto is on Full Time with this one.
But really, think about it now of any other release that is a genuine buy will also be on Gamecube and Xbox. And when that happens we get better visuals with the GC and Xbox so why bother with PS2 versions?
And its been done before- Burnout it is Visually Better on GC than it is on PS2. Like- oooh so many others.......
Which brings me onto the PS2 graphics, they are sub standard!
The Majority of Games are very washed out looking- GTA3 for one and most have Jagged Edges too, plus the Flickering is appalling in some games.
Face it Sonyphiles, out of the three consoles that is out there the PS2 is the worst in terms of Visuals. The best in Visuals has to be the Gamecube followed by the Xbox. Im not being biased either, but its what I have seen and witnessed and played on EACH system to form that opinion, I own each system and take a very un-biased approach to each, if a game looks crap or plays crap ill not be afraid to say to others that it is crap, full stop.
Then we have the PS2 Controller, which is quite frankly against the other three consoles ranking Number two next to the Mighty Comfortable Gamecube effort. Having Nintendo ideas welded onto the Dual Shock (And inside the Plastic thing) it still gets a little too un-comfortable, which is shocking given where the ideas come from, the left analogue stick is awkwardly placed- fidgety and a pain. And the Analogue buttons are useless.
But lets ask one thing...A beloved machine? yes by countless millions, is the mightey PS2!.
It is only in the position it is now due to its older brother and its older brother was only successful because of Nintendo.
It is loved and cherished for all the wrong reasons, many people out there who stick by it are just too biased, too darn built up with their own mystic fantasies of it that they refuse to sample the delights of any other system. These same people, which the majority are teens, not the Teens that Sony claim to be aiming for but Children! Little children and older children. They have all got it into their head that the PS2 is the best thing ever created, they are the same people who's first console was the PS and never owned a non-Sony console in their life, which makes them blinkered even further.
Nintendo on the other hand have an average age group of 23 who own Gamecube's, consider that. And the Nintendo players have a long history with the company.
Sonyphiles, open your eyes. Sample the delights that is out there that hasn't a Sony Logo on it. You see, what I think is that Sonyphiles are afraid to do that, afraid to sample other machines to spend hours and nights and days on the greats of the XBox and GC in case they are drawn from the Sickly Beloved PS2's and realising there is better out there...by a mile!.
Am I right?
Now what has the PS2 really and truly going for it now?
Metal Gear Substance Hmm?
Well possibly, that's if you don't have the truly excellent MGS2 though.
But then there is Devil May Cry 2, all those pointless Mario Clones that will never succeed in Bettering Mario Sunshine such as Ratchet and Clank, because lets face it Mario Sunshine WILL be good, great in fact, Miyamoto is on Full Time with this one.
But really, think about it now of any other release that is a genuine buy will also be on Gamecube and Xbox. And when that happens we get better visuals with the GC and Xbox so why bother with PS2 versions?
And its been done before- Burnout it is Visually Better on GC than it is on PS2. Like- oooh so many others.......
Which brings me onto the PS2 graphics, they are sub standard!
The Majority of Games are very washed out looking- GTA3 for one and most have Jagged Edges too, plus the Flickering is appalling in some games.
Face it Sonyphiles, out of the three consoles that is out there the PS2 is the worst in terms of Visuals. The best in Visuals has to be the Gamecube followed by the Xbox. Im not being biased either, but its what I have seen and witnessed and played on EACH system to form that opinion, I own each system and take a very un-biased approach to each, if a game looks crap or plays crap ill not be afraid to say to others that it is crap, full stop.
Then we have the PS2 Controller, which is quite frankly against the other three consoles ranking Number two next to the Mighty Comfortable Gamecube effort. Having Nintendo ideas welded onto the Dual Shock (And inside the Plastic thing) it still gets a little too un-comfortable, which is shocking given where the ideas come from, the left analogue stick is awkwardly placed- fidgety and a pain. And the Analogue buttons are useless.
But lets ask one thing...A beloved machine? yes by countless millions, is the mightey PS2!.
It is only in the position it is now due to its older brother and its older brother was only successful because of Nintendo.
It is loved and cherished for all the wrong reasons, many people out there who stick by it are just too biased, too darn built up with their own mystic fantasies of it that they refuse to sample the delights of any other system. These same people, which the majority are teens, not the Teens that Sony claim to be aiming for but Children! Little children and older children. They have all got it into their head that the PS2 is the best thing ever created, they are the same people who's first console was the PS and never owned a non-Sony console in their life, which makes them blinkered even further.
Nintendo on the other hand have an average age group of 23 who own Gamecube's, consider that. And the Nintendo players have a long history with the company.
Sonyphiles, open your eyes. Sample the delights that is out there that hasn't a Sony Logo on it. You see, what I think is that Sonyphiles are afraid to do that, afraid to sample other machines to spend hours and nights and days on the greats of the XBox and GC in case they are drawn from the Sickly Beloved PS2's and realising there is better out there...by a mile!.
Am I right?
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It doesn't matter which console is "on top" anyway - there is a healthy suply of games for all consoles, and that is what matters.
You just don't get it do you?
SMÉAGOL wrote:
> Er, what "many" cases is that exactly?
Burnout
The Thing
Onimusha
Resident Evil
TOCA Race Driver
GTA3
That's all I can be bothered with for now, but look down the list of multi-format games, and you'll see that most are scheduled for PS2 release several months before others.
This doesn't just apply to Gamecube, but Xbox and PC too.
> Er, what "many" cases is that exactly?
Burnout
The Thing
Onimusha
Resident Evil
TOCA Race Driver
GTA3
That's all I can be bothered with for now, but look down the list of multi-format games, and you'll see that most are scheduled for PS2 release several months before others.
This doesn't just apply to Gamecube, but Xbox and PC too.
Exactly, you lot are salivating over games that we've played, slayed and have a pre-order in for the sequel.
"Buy a GameCube, play 3 games by Nintendo and then hundreds that were released moths ago on the PS2"
Muaha.
"Buy a GameCube, play 3 games by Nintendo and then hundreds that were released moths ago on the PS2"
Muaha.
Saying it's better because games are released on the PS2 a little earlier is just a cop out, that has about as much worth in a console argument as saying the PS2 is a nicer colour.
The only reson 3rd party games where released before the GC is because as someone said earlier the Cube wasn't around now you could say it's playing catch up. You will find that the majority of mulit platform releases will now be coming out at the same time on all 3 consoles.
Turbo knows EXACTLY what he's started... :-D
There hasn't been a proper console slug out like this in FOG for nearly a year!
There hasn't been a proper console slug out like this in FOG for nearly a year!
Yes, but even multiformats schedules are coming out on PS2 first.
And don't forget, it's Nintendo's own fault for being stupid and slow, as usual.
And don't forget, it's Nintendo's own fault for being stupid and slow, as usual.
Turbonutter wrote:
> SMÉAGOL wrote:
> WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> Because it's not always the case. And in many cases, the PS2
> version
> is there first.
>
> Er, what "many" cases is that exactly?
>
> Jesus there's hundreds, are you blind?
>
> Think of every multiformat game - EVERY SINGLE ONE has been on PS2
> first.
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Yes, but that's the because the only games that are multi-format came out before the launch of GC or X-Box, meaning that they had to come out first, because they couldn't really be released for GC if there was no GC to be released for.
See.
> SMÉAGOL wrote:
> WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> Because it's not always the case. And in many cases, the PS2
> version
> is there first.
>
> Er, what "many" cases is that exactly?
>
> Jesus there's hundreds, are you blind?
>
> Think of every multiformat game - EVERY SINGLE ONE has been on PS2
> first.
----
Yes, but that's the because the only games that are multi-format came out before the launch of GC or X-Box, meaning that they had to come out first, because they couldn't really be released for GC if there was no GC to be released for.
See.
Turbonutter wrote:
> And there are many games that are identical, graphically.
Like what? Name them.
As for another example, Agent under Fire is out soon on Gamecube and from what I've seen (I hate My PS2 version by the way) the GC version looks very smooth and crisper with a constant 60 fps.
> And there are many games that are identical, graphically.
Like what? Name them.
As for another example, Agent under Fire is out soon on Gamecube and from what I've seen (I hate My PS2 version by the way) the GC version looks very smooth and crisper with a constant 60 fps.
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