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"You blind Ninty monkeys"

You think you're so smart with your nice new GameCubes. Happy with them are you? I know you are, you've told us enough times. Especially "Oooh, this controller is fantastic, it's much better than all the other controllers I've used".

Bollards.

Why can't you see it's exactly the same as the DualShock 2 but with less features? Let's run through this:

· D-pad - check
· Two analog sticks - check
· Four main buttons - check
· Shoulder buttons - check
· Rumble - nope
· Full analog on ALL buttons - nope
· 4 shoulder buttons - nope
· Analog sticks as sensitive as the DualShock 2 - nope
· Ability to drop for storeys and still work perfectly - nope

Excuse me if I'm wrong but surely if it's the SAME shape with the SAME layout but with less functions, that makes it worse? Oh no, sorry, I'm missing out the facts that it's purple and made by Nintendo, that automatically makes it far superior, I'm terribly sorry.

I dare any of you to prove to me that the GameCube controller is better than the DualShock 2 - and saying that "it's more comfortable" is a cop-out.

Thinks the whole arguement is pointless as people seen to forget that pc soundcards have been useing 64 channel sound for about 5 years or so also console wars arguements are ultmately pointless cause there will always be something faster coming along in a couple of years where consoles do have the edge except the xbox perhaps is stablity . The reason I said the xbox is cause of the harddrive which not only can have errors it is a breeding ground for viruses.

I don't know how anyone can say the ps2 has superior sound to the gamecube, the cube supports pro-logic2 in hardware whereas the ps2 can do it albeit in software, many people seem to think that due to the ps2 having an optical port for dd5.1 output in dvd's it does the same in games which is totally untrue, it can only output dd5.1 for fmv and music in games(which is sucked of the disc and has absolutely nothing to do with the audio technology)not for real-time sound effects. However the cube's audio processor can output real-time positioned effects in pro-logic2 without affecting the performance of the game, the only downside to this is pro-logic2 decoders are only really available in high-end amps/receivers at the moment and a standard pro-logic decoder will only give you a limited frequency mono surround channel, however this is still superior to a stereo signal with some fancy 3-d algorithim software that is about all the ps2 can offer in the positional department.

Edgy wrote:
> Turbonutter wrote:
> But I have the ability to think up fresh and new arguments.
>
> Eg.
>
> The PS2 has vastly superior sound circuits and technology than the
> GameCube.
>
> Which are so obviously noticable! Who bloody cares? The sound on the
> GameCube seems to me to be just as sharp as that on the Playstation 2.
> It all depends on what the quality of the speakers you are using too
> remember.
>
> That "fresh and new" argument is laughable!

GameCube has more audio channels than the PS2... and that's the only difference in sound. Not that it makes any difference.

*Calm blue oceans*

WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> ½pint wrote:
> Nintendo rely on all the multiformat conversions. All the good PS2
> games on the GameCube.
>
> Funny, though, that until Gamecube got multi-format games, there
> (apparently) no good games on PS2!

Thats blatently untrue, just the software line up on the cube this year is far superior to any others, yes it is all a matter of taste but compare the big sellers on the cube this year to the PS2's and for the first time in a long time the Cube has a massive lead over Sony... until next year that is.

> As for the comments others have made about Sony developing games...
> Sony do develop via the internal companies as Turbo mentioned.

> Whether they grew inside Sony or were bought is irrelevant - they were
> companies that were going under, and they are now part of Sony, hence
> Sony develop games.

Do we count Retro Studio's, NTSC, Pargram, Game Freak etc... as Nintendo... no! Neither should you.

> If you want a list of just how many games Sony do develop, go to
> http://www.scee.com and click on SOFTWARE, and use the 'Developer'
> drop-down list and look for SCEE, SCEA and SCEI.

Have to agree with Edgy there (blimey!) - whether you have 48 channels or 64 channels doesn't really make a lot of difference - the human ear can only detect a handful of different sounds at any one time anyway.

Turbonutter wrote:
> But I have the ability to think up fresh and new arguments.
>
> Eg.
>
> The PS2 has vastly superior sound circuits and technology than the
> GameCube.

Which are so obviously noticable! Who bloody cares? The sound on the GameCube seems to me to be just as sharp as that on the Playstation 2. It all depends on what the quality of the speakers you are using too remember.

That "fresh and new" argument is laughable!

½pint wrote:
> Nintendo rely on all the multiformat conversions. All the good PS2
> games on the GameCube.

Funny, though, that until Gamecube got multi-format games, there (apparently) no good games on PS2!

As for the comments others have made about Sony developing games... Sony do develop via the internal companies as Turbo mentioned.

Whether they grew inside Sony or were bought is irrelevant - they were companies that were going under, and they are now part of Sony, hence Sony develop games.

If you want a list of just how many games Sony do develop, go to http://www.scee.com and click on SOFTWARE, and use the 'Developer' drop-down list and look for SCEE, SCEA and SCEI.

I just cant understand how this thing is still going and how its got this many replies.... sheesh.

:D

Howd the tests go my geeky friend?

But I have the ability to think up fresh and new arguments.

Eg.

The PS2 has vastly superior sound circuits and technology than the GameCube.