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Thu 06/06/02 at 14:53
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You think you're so smart with your nice new GameCubes. Happy with them are you? I know you are, you've told us enough times. Especially "Oooh, this controller is fantastic, it's much better than all the other controllers I've used".

Bollards.

Why can't you see it's exactly the same as the DualShock 2 but with less features? Let's run through this:

· D-pad - check
· Two analog sticks - check
· Four main buttons - check
· Shoulder buttons - check
· Rumble - nope
· Full analog on ALL buttons - nope
· 4 shoulder buttons - nope
· Analog sticks as sensitive as the DualShock 2 - nope
· Ability to drop for storeys and still work perfectly - nope

Excuse me if I'm wrong but surely if it's the SAME shape with the SAME layout but with less functions, that makes it worse? Oh no, sorry, I'm missing out the facts that it's purple and made by Nintendo, that automatically makes it far superior, I'm terribly sorry.

I dare any of you to prove to me that the GameCube controller is better than the DualShock 2 - and saying that "it's more comfortable" is a cop-out.
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Thu 13/06/02 at 14:53
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Be warned I am the biggest one sided Ninty.

But I never said Sony didn't know nothing about games, just not as much as Ninty and they don't have one person who knows how to create a perfect controller as well as Shigsy.
Thu 13/06/02 at 13:43
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Shigsy makes good games that can't be denied. But sony knowing nothing about gaming is the most biased thing I've ever heard!
Thu 13/06/02 at 11:28
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Turbonutter wrote:
> In fact...
>
> All Nintendo have done is rehash a few old controllers, painted it
> pink and thrown it at the salivating masses who just lap it up as they
> always do.
>
> Basic layout - DualShock
> Repositioned analog stick - Sega NiGHTS controller/Xbox
> Analog triggers - Hastilly thrown in after realising the DS2 was far
> superior. But I mean, come on, incremental triggers are SO Dreamcast.
> Yawn.
> Odd C-button - N64 - which was copied from Sony - who copied it from
> the SNES pad
> Amazingly weird and restricting main buttons - Shigsy's dope-fuelled
> dreams


Who knows more? The man who made the controller that knows nothings about games, or the worlds greatest games designer? Idiot.
Thu 13/06/02 at 11:26
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Turbonutter I am not denying the Dual shocks capabilities, I know it is good technically, down on paper. But a quote froma biased Sony fan "I like everything about the PS2 apart from the controller" He didn't give a reason. Another biased Sony fan said: "I close my eyes and I'm playing a playstation". As good as the Dual shock is why not move the buttons about a bit? Why not reduce the weight, why not stick the analogue stick in the right place, why not change sizes for beat 'em ups etc... of the button. Surly a new idea can be implemented into the dual shock as well but no... i close my eyes and I am playing a playstation, i open them and I am playing a playstation.

What mew generation is this?
Thu 13/06/02 at 07:44
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In fact...

All Nintendo have done is rehash a few old controllers, painted it pink and thrown it at the salivating masses who just lap it up as they always do.

Basic layout - DualShock
Repositioned analog stick - Sega NiGHTS controller/Xbox
Analog triggers - Hastilly thrown in after realising the DS2 was far superior. But I mean, come on, incremental triggers are SO Dreamcast. Yawn.
Odd C-button - N64 - which was copied from Sony - who copied it from the SNES pad
Amazingly weird and restricting main buttons - Shigsy's dope-fuelled dreams

Is there anything apart from those buttons that is actually new? Sure, Sony have gone for the same layout as before - which is pretty funning good - but at least they've bothered to add some technology to it, pretty amazing and useful technology too.
Thu 13/06/02 at 07:36
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The DualShock is way more technologically advanced than any other controller on earth - how can it be living in the past? Why change perfection?
Thu 13/06/02 at 00:07
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Tellah wrote:
> The true test:
>
> Name 1 game that wouldn't work with the Duel Shock that works with the
> GC pad.......
>

It isn't a question of who can do what, Dual shock would win, it is more a question of who does it better. I like Dual shock it may steal ideas but it was far the best of the last generation. Just not this one, I insist.
Thu 13/06/02 at 00:03
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Tellah wrote:
> Dringo, If you're not going to use the d-pad, then why is it there? To
> look good? You are saying yourself that it is useless? At least we
> agree that the D-Pad on the GC controller cannot be used to any
> effect.

For use in games such as Star Wars Rogue Leader and Smash brothers, taunts and assignments.

> The Duel Shock d-pad is very usable.

Too usable

For games that have distinct 2,
> 4, or 8-way directions instead of using analogue. e.g. SF2, mortal
> kombat, bust a move, ALL the rythmn games etc.
> Trust me, I could name loads of good games that need access to the
> d-pad - it is still necessary in modern gaming. Not all games are
> going to benefit from analogue direction.

Mortal combat is analogue and Bust a move can use the d-pad as it doesn;t require a large d-pad to work.

> The thing is, that the left analogue stick on the duel shock IS
> useable in this lower position.
>
> The buttons are not in a generic layout, so they will be excellent for
> some games, ok for others, and absolutely useless for others too. I
> refer back to my tekken and sf2 examples as games that wouldn't work
> with the GC pad.

Why not? Have you played Bloody Roar, the buttons are perfect for beat 'em ups, like the arcade sticks with bigger buttons and smaller ones.

> in short - The GC pad is more limited than the Duel Shock.

The Dual Shock pad is last generation and OUT OF DATE UPGRADE IT OR LIVE IN THE PAST! The Gamecube one is designed specifically for the new generation of games, not an updated 64 pad.
Wed 12/06/02 at 23:59
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Guess whose back...

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Wed 12/06/02 at 21:32
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It's been a day...
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