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Stupid idiot wrote:
> And yes we do have the better games.
LOL "WE?"
Fanboys...when will they learn?
> And yes we do have the better games.
LOL "WE?"
Fanboys...when will they learn?
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Tóm wrote:
> Phi11ip wrote:
> But Microsoft saved money by including all this in the first place.
> They don't need to use pointless extra plastic casing, boxes and the
> rest of the packaging. They basically put a network card in the Xbox.
> This would of cost a couple of quid at the most! So without online
> capabilities, they might have been able to save those without
> broadband a fiver Big whoop.
>
> I don't know about other Xbox owners, but I find the built in modem a
> big advantage and money saver.
Are you planning to get broadband soon?
If you arn't then a modem is a waste of money, most people over here will NEVER use it because a telephone link is just crap!
Also if you arn't getting broadband then you can't say it is a money saver, you're paying for something that will be absolute useless for you!
Stupid filter won't allow word tu-rd!
> Phi11ip wrote:
> But Microsoft saved money by including all this in the first place.
> They don't need to use pointless extra plastic casing, boxes and the
> rest of the packaging. They basically put a network card in the Xbox.
> This would of cost a couple of quid at the most! So without online
> capabilities, they might have been able to save those without
> broadband a fiver Big whoop.
>
> I don't know about other Xbox owners, but I find the built in modem a
> big advantage and money saver.
Are you planning to get broadband soon?
If you arn't then a modem is a waste of money, most people over here will NEVER use it because a telephone link is just crap!
Also if you arn't getting broadband then you can't say it is a money saver, you're paying for something that will be absolute useless for you!
Stupid filter won't allow word tu-rd!
garbe123 wrote:
> EVERYONE, read this post from Tiltawhirl, what a joke! LOL. It is in
> my ALL XBOX FANS READ THIS POST and you will laugh your head off.
To be honest you're original post in that topic was a joke too...
> EVERYONE, read this post from Tiltawhirl, what a joke! LOL. It is in
> my ALL XBOX FANS READ THIS POST and you will laugh your head off.
To be honest you're original post in that topic was a joke too...
garbe123 wrote:
> I understand what you are saying but there is another side to this as
> well. With us living on an island we usually get ripped off with all
> sorts and in this case it is no different, but, in America broadband
> is cheap and most people have it, the same in Japan and Austraillia,
> so really the console was designed with not just us in mind! So it was
> right to bring it out with the console but as usuall living in England
> comes with quite a few knock-backs and prices is a big one!
I'm not saying it was a bad idea for MS to release some of the online stuff with the console, just that the broadband argument is of little use in the situation that I (and much of the UK) is in. I reckon for the next generation of consoles, they will all come with the online stuff, this generation is kind of the transition period, just like last generation was a transition from 2D to 3D...
> I understand what you are saying but there is another side to this as
> well. With us living on an island we usually get ripped off with all
> sorts and in this case it is no different, but, in America broadband
> is cheap and most people have it, the same in Japan and Austraillia,
> so really the console was designed with not just us in mind! So it was
> right to bring it out with the console but as usuall living in England
> comes with quite a few knock-backs and prices is a big one!
I'm not saying it was a bad idea for MS to release some of the online stuff with the console, just that the broadband argument is of little use in the situation that I (and much of the UK) is in. I reckon for the next generation of consoles, they will all come with the online stuff, this generation is kind of the transition period, just like last generation was a transition from 2D to 3D...
Garbe you wrote that whole post cause of this perfetic piece of Spam written by some stupid illiterate Ninty idiot?
Jeez some people take this kind of crap to seriously, do me a favour next time Rinoa Heartily or any of his other idiot offspring come into the X-Box forum and post s**t like this just ignore him. by posting a massive reply like you did you're only giving him the reaction he was looking for and he'll keep doing it.
Jeez some people take this kind of crap to seriously, do me a favour next time Rinoa Heartily or any of his other idiot offspring come into the X-Box forum and post s**t like this just ignore him. by posting a massive reply like you did you're only giving him the reaction he was looking for and he'll keep doing it.
EVERYONE, read this post from Tiltawhirl, what a joke! LOL. It is in my ALL XBOX FANS READ THIS POST and you will laugh your head off.
Phi11ip wrote:
> Microsoft should have left the modem to be an extra, the console would
> then be cheaper to most people who would not use the internet on it
> and if you did have broaband, you could just buy the add on which
> would bring the total price up to or around what it is now.
The nintendo modem would cost about £20, right? Well, this is what *I* call a waste of money. Most of this £20 would be paying for packaging to get the item to you, plastic around the modem e.t.c
But Microsoft saved money by including all this in the first place. They don't need to use pointless extra plastic casing, boxes and the rest of the packaging. They basically put a network card in the Xbox. This would of cost a couple of quid at the most! So without online capabilities, they might have been able to save those without broadband a fiver Big whoop.
I don't know about other Xbox owners, but I find the built in modem a big advantage and money saver.
> Microsoft should have left the modem to be an extra, the console would
> then be cheaper to most people who would not use the internet on it
> and if you did have broaband, you could just buy the add on which
> would bring the total price up to or around what it is now.
The nintendo modem would cost about £20, right? Well, this is what *I* call a waste of money. Most of this £20 would be paying for packaging to get the item to you, plastic around the modem e.t.c
But Microsoft saved money by including all this in the first place. They don't need to use pointless extra plastic casing, boxes and the rest of the packaging. They basically put a network card in the Xbox. This would of cost a couple of quid at the most! So without online capabilities, they might have been able to save those without broadband a fiver Big whoop.
I don't know about other Xbox owners, but I find the built in modem a big advantage and money saver.
I understand what you are saying but there is another side to this as well. With us living on an island we usually get ripped off with all sorts and in this case it is no different, but, in America broadband is cheap and most people have it, the same in Japan and Austraillia, so really the console was designed with not just us in mind! So it was right to bring it out with the console but as usuall living in England comes with quite a few knock-backs and prices is a big one!
garbe123 wrote:
> Not stricktly true! If you get an ethenet (ignore the spelling) then
> that goes directly into your X-BOX without having to go via your PC
> but if you have standard broadband or standard modems then you have to
> run it through your PC and then a wire from there goes into the back
> of your X-BOX. With this you can use a standard modem to play with
> your X-BOX console but they do advise broadband otherwise it will be
> too slow! So it is not a waste becuase everyone can use it, maybe not
> as fast as they want but it is a start until they can get broadband.
> This is not a shot at GameCube owners but correct me if I am wrong but
> isn't this more than you can do?
I think it's about equal... GameCube will release a normal Modem and a Broadband one too. However, with GameCube I think you'll have to pay extra for a Nintendo ISP... and Ninty are very wary of having actual online play without Broadband since it will suffer lag, and they don't want their customers to suffer lag. Also with lag it's not exactly going to look as good to potential buyers is it? I reckon the net capabilities are about equal, except the fact that the Xbox has some of the internet stuff built in (I think...?) and built in hard drive. But at any rate, I doubt I would use the internet for gaming anyway, since I don't have broadband. I did used to go online for games a lot on PC, but can't be bothered now... too slow. Anyhoo, I think overall the online capabilities aren't all that different, but I doubt GameCube (in Europe anyway) will be going online any time soon. Really depends how much stock you place in internet capabilities. Downloading music is nice, but apart from racing games and maybe the occasional other (puzzlers, and stuff like Super Monkey Ball...) I doubt I'd want to put music over the top of a game rather than listen to the in game stuff. I certainly wouldn't want music blaring out at me while playing something like Resi, Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Perfect Dark, etc...
Anyways, there we go...
PS I doubt I'll get broadband for AGES cos they were introducing it where I live (Isle Of Wight) but then the company who were putting it in went bust. So my Broadband dreams were shattered...
> Not stricktly true! If you get an ethenet (ignore the spelling) then
> that goes directly into your X-BOX without having to go via your PC
> but if you have standard broadband or standard modems then you have to
> run it through your PC and then a wire from there goes into the back
> of your X-BOX. With this you can use a standard modem to play with
> your X-BOX console but they do advise broadband otherwise it will be
> too slow! So it is not a waste becuase everyone can use it, maybe not
> as fast as they want but it is a start until they can get broadband.
> This is not a shot at GameCube owners but correct me if I am wrong but
> isn't this more than you can do?
I think it's about equal... GameCube will release a normal Modem and a Broadband one too. However, with GameCube I think you'll have to pay extra for a Nintendo ISP... and Ninty are very wary of having actual online play without Broadband since it will suffer lag, and they don't want their customers to suffer lag. Also with lag it's not exactly going to look as good to potential buyers is it? I reckon the net capabilities are about equal, except the fact that the Xbox has some of the internet stuff built in (I think...?) and built in hard drive. But at any rate, I doubt I would use the internet for gaming anyway, since I don't have broadband. I did used to go online for games a lot on PC, but can't be bothered now... too slow. Anyhoo, I think overall the online capabilities aren't all that different, but I doubt GameCube (in Europe anyway) will be going online any time soon. Really depends how much stock you place in internet capabilities. Downloading music is nice, but apart from racing games and maybe the occasional other (puzzlers, and stuff like Super Monkey Ball...) I doubt I'd want to put music over the top of a game rather than listen to the in game stuff. I certainly wouldn't want music blaring out at me while playing something like Resi, Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Perfect Dark, etc...
Anyways, there we go...
PS I doubt I'll get broadband for AGES cos they were introducing it where I live (Isle Of Wight) but then the company who were putting it in went bust. So my Broadband dreams were shattered...
garbe123 wrote:
> Of course we aren't ready, the internet service has not been released
> yet but when it is we are ready and raring to go! I think it is great
> idea to be able to:
>
> Download new levels
> Download new characters
> Download Game Demos
> Play people online at your favourite games
> Compete in gaming competitions world wide from the comfort of your own
> home
>
> If we weren't ready why would Microsoft be designing a stand alone
> game:
>
> Halo Online
>
> If you don't belive me then check gamespot as they have information
> it. The way the game is going to run is unkown yet but it looks very
> promising and exciting to me!
My point is that Halo online will be crap for most people in the UK....
Most people have modems, therefore they will take around half a day continuously to download a demo and online games will be crap!
Meanwhile if you are one of the lucky few with broadband then it's great!
> Of course we aren't ready, the internet service has not been released
> yet but when it is we are ready and raring to go! I think it is great
> idea to be able to:
>
> Download new levels
> Download new characters
> Download Game Demos
> Play people online at your favourite games
> Compete in gaming competitions world wide from the comfort of your own
> home
>
> If we weren't ready why would Microsoft be designing a stand alone
> game:
>
> Halo Online
>
> If you don't belive me then check gamespot as they have information
> it. The way the game is going to run is unkown yet but it looks very
> promising and exciting to me!
My point is that Halo online will be crap for most people in the UK....
Most people have modems, therefore they will take around half a day continuously to download a demo and online games will be crap!
Meanwhile if you are one of the lucky few with broadband then it's great!
Don't tell me you have never finished a game and thought to yourself, " I wish it was longer and I wish there could have been more chracters to play around with ". This is what console internet lets you do. If the game is faulted like GTA III was on the PS2 where one mission was unplayable sometimes but the only way to solve the problem was by starting the game all over again, this could not be fixed and no-one new when it was going to happen. But if there was a patch available for download then the game could be fixed and played through without any worries. I know we are coming to an era where in game errors are a thing of the past but it is always nice to know that we are backed up with other solutions if the un-thinkable occurs. Don't you think?
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