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"Dissecting the Kerrang TV top 10"

Number 10: "Fake Sound of Progress" by the Lost Prophets

It sounds like "Na na naaa na na" they tell us. It in no way involves boyos from the Welsh valleys singing in American accents, oh no, that's not a step back at all. They sing and they jump around a bit wearing shoes. Now that's innovation.

Happy verdict: 4/10

Number 9: "Run to the Hills" by Iron Maiden

Yay! Old metal! Ah, except it's Iron Maiden, a band who have successfully dodged being cool with a deftness not seen since Julio Iglesias. Bruce Dickinson sings like a girl. Don't just run to the hills, run as far as you can to get away from this one.

HV: 2/10

Number 8: "Toxicity" by System of a Down

There's about 50 time changes in the first minute and so it sounds more mental than metal (in a good way). And the guitar intro sounds like part of "Vancouver" by Jeff Buckley. It's like they recorded a normal song and then had a team of monkeys mix it. And so it rocks!

HV: 8/10

Number 7: "The Power" H-Blockx

This song conatins more throwaway filler phrases than any other song in the history of music. Interspersed between the assortment of "What what what"s and "yeah"s and self name checking are some choice lyrics like "Maniac, Brainiac, I'm the lyrical Jesse James". Yes, Jesse James was a cowboy and so had zero lyrical ability, just like yourself mr.singer. The singer looks like a fat Mike Patton, and in the video he does a Blue-Velvet-Dennis-Hopper-sucking-oxygen impression for no reason at all. The song's so bad that it must have been made so deliberately. I want more fat-Mike-Patton more!

HV: 10/10

Number 6: "How You Remind Me" by Nickleback

Boring guitar riff? Check!
Bland vocals? Check!
Lack of originality? Check!
Welcome to Nickleback's world. The singer is hurt, you know, emotionally. By a girl. We should force that girl to stand trial for the resulting infliction upon our senses of boring, lifeless lift music-rock.

HV: 3/10

Number 5: "My Sacrifice" by Creed

Creed set themselves the challenge of hackneyising an initially interesting guitar intro, and they rise to the challenge with gusto, producing another insipid three minutes of death-by-boredom christian rock. Listen to the die-hard Christians Creed fans; the only rock in Christianity is Peter, so lets have Creed stoned or something.

HV: 2/10

Number 4: "Crazy" by Sugarcoma

"Nu-metal-by-numbers band prove individuality in ironic Britney Spears covering shocker" or not. This song sucks like a vacuum. And that singer has worrying shouting capacity, doesn't she know that it's just not feminine? She would be a good replacement for the dog in sheep racing trials, as she could scream the sheep into their fences. However, great sheep dogs do not great nu-metal singers make. Can't someone do a deathmetal version of "Yellow" instead?

HV: 1/10

Number 3: "Stupid Kid" by the Alkaline Trio

Intelligent pop-punk-rock. (see intelligent members of Spice Girls for a comparison bench mark)

HV: 6/10

Number 2: "It's going Down" by the X-Ecutioners

So, you're a mediocre coterie of turn-tablists and you want to be famous.. what do you do? Yes, you get Linkin Park to make your fairly boring stuff really hip with the cool individual kids in Linkin Park hoodies. Also of note is the Linkin Park rapper proving his lyrical dexterity:

The combination of a vocal caress
With lungs that gasp for breath
From emotional stress
With special effects

"Emotion stress with special effects" - he's summed up the entire nu-metal genre in a sentence. Top marks for succinctness, nowt for anything else.

HV: 0/10

Number 1: "Tainted Love" by Marilyn Manson

Marilyn Manson makes music for outsiders you know. If you listen to Marilyn you are angry and alone and ooohhhhh so individual. And you rebel by painting your nails black and wearing make-up when you're a *gasps* boy. Tainted Love is a cover of the Soft Cell song, and Manson goths it up and puts it on a movie soundtrack, netting him millions in royalties and money from all of the alternative kiddos. But surely alternative implies a minority, and when a song aims for number one in the UK charts it can hardly be a minority thing can it? Tainted Love: music for people who have to tidy their goddam bedroom or be grounded for a whole damn day and that is like so unfair because Mummy and Daddy won't give me pocket money.

HV: 2/10
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Overall:

It's just a personal opinion, but Kerrang TV sucks.

What, and ignore bands like Creed, A, Staind, Linkin Park etc? That's a good way of killing viewing figures and losing money


And that's what it's about nowadays - money

I may not have it, but I have seen it before, and when I have, I have seen the same video played god knows how many times. Yes, and it may be the most popular of the alternative music, but the most popular of the alternative music doesn't have to be CONSTANTLY played does it? On Kerrang TV it seems it does.

You can't have any of the less popular (which doesn't mean not as good, just means it hasn't got the exposure) songs getting played on Kerrang TV because you get the same people, day in, day out voting for the same 'alternative' songs that they have heard of. If you want a truely varied channel of alternative music then you can't have a voting system, or you will just get the same old songs played over and over. It would be much better if Kerrang just played songs randomly from their playlist, at least that way each song would have an equal chance, rather than people constantly seeing some Linkin Park and Sum41 videos.

If Kerrang were serious about supporting rock music they'd be showing viewers music from up and coming, not yet hugely popular bands to give them some more exposure to help them gain a greater fanbase, but instead they are just happy to milk the biggest bands for all they're worth. And that's why Kerrang TV sucks.

Sibs wrote:


What the hell is the point in an 'alternative' music
> channel where only the most popular videos ever get played?!?

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The most popular OUT OF the alternate music

And if you don't even have Kerrang, you can't have a very good opinion of it anyway

Yup, I think Kerang TV sucks.

For a start it's just plain illogical and stupid. It's supposed to be an alternative music channel... okay, fair enough. But it's an alternative music channel where you vote for the songs that get played...? Confused?

What the hell is the point in an 'alternative' music channel where only the most popular videos ever get played?!? I have hardly ever seem this channel (don't have sky you see) but the few times I have, I have probably seen the same 5-10 ish videos over and over, and then seen about one different video every hour or so...

Yes, it's really an alternative music channel when they constantly play Linkin Park, Slipknot and the rest of the Nu-metal stuff, and nothing else... (oh, sorry, they do play the occasional Blink 41 video don't they?)

Mr. Happy wrote:
> Far rule!


Glad to of shared the music :-)

I will never bore of Far, I listen to them everyday amongst other stuff but I listen to them MUCH more.

It's wierd that, I got into Water & Solutions songs first and then Tin Cans grew on me as did all of the other songs. As I listened to more songs and listened to all songs more I did realised I had become a MAJOR fan of this band and wanted to know more about them. I now like Far's earlier albums too, they rock.

I got my Water & Solutions & Tin Cans With Strings To You from America, the first brought to me by a mate and the second imported. They really are such a great band.

I was going to say in my last post that Kerrang need a Far song on there hehe

I see what you mean about picking a favourite song. I tend not to do that anymore, i just can't choose with the bands I REALLY like. Infact when I try and compile a list with my favourite songs my favourite bands songs don't come under them as I just can't single one song out.

You know that bit in 'In The Aisle, Yelling' where he goes FIREEEEE,well i like to do that in my form room. Hmmmmmm I'm a pshyco.

Anyway, nice to know your listening, I'm reviewing Tin Cans and Water & Solutions VERY soon along with my other CD's and a few others that are lying around hehe :-)

Out of that list I like:


Number 10: "Fake Sound of Progress" by the Lost Prophets

Number 6: "How You Remind Me" by Nickleback

Number 5: "My Sacrifice" by Creed

Number 3: "Stupid Kid" by the Alkaline Trio

Number 2: "It's going Down" by the X-Ecutioners

lostprophets are great but Fake Sound of Progress is not their best song. I've seen Sugarcoma when they supported One Minute Silence, they were really good but I haven't actually heard the Crazy all the way through. Also My Sacrifice is brilliant, and really deep. Oh well, everyone has their opinion.

I've only listened through the Alkaline Trio once, as I got it in a batch of 7 CDs, but it doesn't sound like my thing. I downloaded 'Sorry About That', and loved that an amazing amount, but the rest of the album doesn't live up to that at all.

Mr. Happy wrote:
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Nickleback must be a beardy thing ;-)

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Everything's a beardy thing. You just don't know it yet.