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Fact: It's not difficult to recruit Firemen. If they were given a big pay rise then that would be a cue for everybody else too. Taxes would rise dramatically and the economy would melt down. We would all be worse off.
I have two suggestions:
1. Train the armed forces to use up to date fire-fighting equipment and make it illegal for anybody to prevent the use of such equipment.
2. As Firemen have nothing to do except play darts for half their time, why not give them some more work. They could be the town watchers, pouring over cctv monitors to watch for traffic jams, fires and rowdy elements of society, and simply reporting events to the Police as necessary. That could be worth 5% on their pay. Of course they might have to be banned from doing second jobs during the day if they have to stay awake all night watching monitors.
These are exceptionally good and logical ideas. Maybe I should be a Governement adviser.
*_*
I have two suggestions:
1. Train the armed forces to use up to date fire-fighting equipment and make it illegal for anybody to prevent the use of such equipment.
2. As Firemen have nothing to do except play darts for half their time, why not give them some more work. They could be the town watchers, pouring over cctv monitors to watch for traffic jams, fires and rowdy elements of society, and simply reporting events to the Police as necessary. That could be worth 5% on their pay. Of course they might have to be banned from doing second jobs during the day if they have to stay awake all night watching monitors.
These are exceptionally good and logical ideas. Maybe I should be a Governement adviser.
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maddmun wrote:
> You don't get that much for working in an office (unless you're
> working in America)
really depends what you do. Some admins get as little as £4 an hour, and risk repetitive strain, premature loss of eyesight, depression and anxiety, back problems and office bullying. These people deserve a payrise.
On the other hand, there are skilled contractors who earn £1000 a day, and spend half that day on the internet (not like me though, I don't earn that much...). But these people get what they get because their skills are rare. The same cannot be said of firemen...
> You don't get that much for working in an office (unless you're
> working in America)
really depends what you do. Some admins get as little as £4 an hour, and risk repetitive strain, premature loss of eyesight, depression and anxiety, back problems and office bullying. These people deserve a payrise.
On the other hand, there are skilled contractors who earn £1000 a day, and spend half that day on the internet (not like me though, I don't earn that much...). But these people get what they get because their skills are rare. The same cannot be said of firemen...
Actually I've just realised that most of the arguments in here are from people that can't decide what console "rules".
What on earth was I thinking?
*strolls off for a fag and another forum*
What on earth was I thinking?
*strolls off for a fag and another forum*
Your Honour wrote:
> Has anyone thought that perhaps they don't actually expect to get 40%
> payrise.
>
> Maybe, just maybe, they only want - say, 15-20. But they know that if
> they ask for 20, they'd only get 10.
They already got 10, but sid they want 40, they should become binmen, they get well paid
> Has anyone thought that perhaps they don't actually expect to get 40%
> payrise.
>
> Maybe, just maybe, they only want - say, 15-20. But they know that if
> they ask for 20, they'd only get 10.
They already got 10, but sid they want 40, they should become binmen, they get well paid
maddmun wrote:
> Doughnut Monster wrote:
> Tony wrote:
> Doughnut Monster wrote:
> Look at it this way, people who sit around in offices get paid
> sometimes 100'2 of thousands for doing nothing but pushing paper
> around.
>
> When our Firemen go out every day risking their lives, and what do
> they get paid? well it's laughable.
> They deserve the 40% pay rise.
>
> I say STRIKE!
>
>
> My crystal ball says this person will get a massive reality shock at
> some time in the future.
>
> Meaning?
>
> You don't get that much for working in an office (unless you're
> working in America)
Or you work for Bill Gates
> Doughnut Monster wrote:
> Tony wrote:
> Doughnut Monster wrote:
> Look at it this way, people who sit around in offices get paid
> sometimes 100'2 of thousands for doing nothing but pushing paper
> around.
>
> When our Firemen go out every day risking their lives, and what do
> they get paid? well it's laughable.
> They deserve the 40% pay rise.
>
> I say STRIKE!
>
>
> My crystal ball says this person will get a massive reality shock at
> some time in the future.
>
> Meaning?
>
> You don't get that much for working in an office (unless you're
> working in America)
Or you work for Bill Gates
How can people compare window cleaners and Firemen is beyond me.
Was it the window cleaners, cleaning the mess up, rescuing people, finding dead people, breathing in the fumes and some dying from these on september the 11th?
We have to ask ourselves, where would we be without the fire service?
Was it the window cleaners, cleaning the mess up, rescuing people, finding dead people, breathing in the fumes and some dying from these on september the 11th?
We have to ask ourselves, where would we be without the fire service?
Expletive Deleted wrote:
> The Police save more lives and put themselves in the face of direct
> combat with other people.
>
> Regardless of how much they get now, do they deserve a 40% pay rise
> also?
---
No, the basic pay rate for a PC in the Metropolitan area is £26k, significantly more than the Fire department.
> The Police save more lives and put themselves in the face of direct
> combat with other people.
>
> Regardless of how much they get now, do they deserve a 40% pay rise
> also?
---
No, the basic pay rate for a PC in the Metropolitan area is £26k, significantly more than the Fire department.
it's not me spitting at you. It's those filthy mouthed banners...
Doughnut Monster wrote:
> Tony wrote:
> Doughnut Monster wrote:
> Look at it this way, people who sit around in offices get paid
> sometimes 100'2 of thousands for doing nothing but pushing paper
> around.
>
> When our Firemen go out every day risking their lives, and what do
> they get paid? well it's laughable.
> They deserve the 40% pay rise.
>
> I say STRIKE!
>
>
> My crystal ball says this person will get a massive reality shock at
> some time in the future.
>
> Meaning?
You don't get that much for working in an office (unless you're working in America)
> Tony wrote:
> Doughnut Monster wrote:
> Look at it this way, people who sit around in offices get paid
> sometimes 100'2 of thousands for doing nothing but pushing paper
> around.
>
> When our Firemen go out every day risking their lives, and what do
> they get paid? well it's laughable.
> They deserve the 40% pay rise.
>
> I say STRIKE!
>
>
> My crystal ball says this person will get a massive reality shock at
> some time in the future.
>
> Meaning?
You don't get that much for working in an office (unless you're working in America)
You could just said "Umm, I think you're wrong YH." Rather than spit at me.
Slightly uncivilised, don't you think?
Slightly uncivilised, don't you think?
Expletive Deleted wrote:
> That's what I said before. The Police sometimes have to go in to these
> places (when the Firemen aren't there yet), WITHOUT the aid of
> breathing apperatus.
>
---
No, what you said was "Erm, excuse me, but it's the police who get to the scene of a fire BEFORE the Fire Brigade, and as thusly, they are the ones who have to go into the houses, and see if anyone is trapped, etc, without the use of oxygen gizmos"
Indicating it's always the police who charge into buildings whilst waiting around for the fire crews to arrive.
> That's what I said before. The Police sometimes have to go in to these
> places (when the Firemen aren't there yet), WITHOUT the aid of
> breathing apperatus.
>
---
No, what you said was "Erm, excuse me, but it's the police who get to the scene of a fire BEFORE the Fire Brigade, and as thusly, they are the ones who have to go into the houses, and see if anyone is trapped, etc, without the use of oxygen gizmos"
Indicating it's always the police who charge into buildings whilst waiting around for the fire crews to arrive.
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