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September:- Price cut to £160
October:- 2 games thrown in for free the incredible Jet Set Radio: Future and SEGA GT 2002
November:- 2 games added for a mere £40 onto the price, two of the X-box's best games Halo and Splinter Cell, and thats including JSRF and SEGA GT 2002.
December:- ?
Come on isn't this a bit overboard now?
October:- 2 games thrown in for free the incredible Jet Set Radio: Future and SEGA GT 2002
November:- 2 games added for a mere £40 onto the price, two of the X-box's best games Halo and Splinter Cell, and thats including JSRF and SEGA GT 2002.
December:- ?
Come on isn't this a bit overboard now?
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In total Nintendo are selling over 30,000 more consoles worldwide every week.
Just because Japan is the home of the companies that have dominated the games industry, it doesn't make Japan the only country that really matters when it comes to sales. The U.S and Europe equal a much bigger audience overall - if I remember right, the U.S alone counts for like 50% of games/console sales.
If there is a most important country when it comes to sales, its the U.S. The Megadrive did pretty badly in Japan, but the West took a big liking to it which meant a nice long life with plenty of sales for the console.
If the X-Box is doing well in Europe and the U.S, then Microsoft really don't have to give a stuff about Japan. Japanese developers know this too, which is why names like Tecmo, Capcom, Namco and Sega are more than happy to put their games on the X-Box.
Look at Sega and Tecmo in particular - they are bringing a number of titles that are X-Box exclusive.
Tecmo are putting their Dead Or Alive series (beat em ups and volleyball) along with Ninja Gaiden while Sega are bringing a number of their classics on top of the titles they have already released.
To me that shows that these developers see the X-Box as being far from a doomed console just because the Japanese aren't creaming their pants over it like they are the GC.
Give me the U.S and European market mate and your more than welcome to the Japanese. ;-)
If there is a most important country when it comes to sales, its the U.S. The Megadrive did pretty badly in Japan, but the West took a big liking to it which meant a nice long life with plenty of sales for the console.
If the X-Box is doing well in Europe and the U.S, then Microsoft really don't have to give a stuff about Japan. Japanese developers know this too, which is why names like Tecmo, Capcom, Namco and Sega are more than happy to put their games on the X-Box.
Look at Sega and Tecmo in particular - they are bringing a number of titles that are X-Box exclusive.
Tecmo are putting their Dead Or Alive series (beat em ups and volleyball) along with Ninja Gaiden while Sega are bringing a number of their classics on top of the titles they have already released.
To me that shows that these developers see the X-Box as being far from a doomed console just because the Japanese aren't creaming their pants over it like they are the GC.
Give me the U.S and European market mate and your more than welcome to the Japanese. ;-)
Strafex wrote:
> MS’s £100 cut last Spring let to Nintendo’s £40 cut –
> that’s a whole game’s worth of money.
what? that pales into insignifigance when compaired with £40 pounds
> Whitestripes seems to be thinking along my lines – worth getting an
> Xbox as WELL as the Gamecube if this rate of special offers
> continue.
well obviously, anyone would buy a console with 10 best seller games for 50p :)
> Belldandy, sick of anti-MS-Ninty’s seems to want to stoop to their
> level...
no need to stoop. simply sit!
>
> I bet they’ll do some fantastic deals when Xbox live is officially
> released in March.
> I don’t think that the offers will stop improving soon. Although the
> Xbox is finally outselling the Gamecube, it’s still WAY behind the
> PS2, and PS2 sales is what MS are REALLY aiming for.
the gamecube is absouloutly THRASHING the x-box in japan, and thats were it really counts. sales have DOUBLED! the US is also a key point, yes, but the UK doesn't matter much overall.
> If the keep up special offers like these, they might well pull it
> off...
and loose Millions and millions in the procces. casual games will buy an ultra cheap console and buy a few games.
a 'hardcore' gamer would doubt the stability of a console that is lowering its price almost every month 'n' a half, but would buy lots of good on the console of their choce software.
and dont snipe back about how if nintendo were to pull the same stunt, I would praise their actions. I would seriously worry and consider buying games in bulk because of their apparent failure.
> MS’s £100 cut last Spring let to Nintendo’s £40 cut –
> that’s a whole game’s worth of money.
what? that pales into insignifigance when compaired with £40 pounds
> Whitestripes seems to be thinking along my lines – worth getting an
> Xbox as WELL as the Gamecube if this rate of special offers
> continue.
well obviously, anyone would buy a console with 10 best seller games for 50p :)
> Belldandy, sick of anti-MS-Ninty’s seems to want to stoop to their
> level...
no need to stoop. simply sit!
>
> I bet they’ll do some fantastic deals when Xbox live is officially
> released in March.
> I don’t think that the offers will stop improving soon. Although the
> Xbox is finally outselling the Gamecube, it’s still WAY behind the
> PS2, and PS2 sales is what MS are REALLY aiming for.
the gamecube is absouloutly THRASHING the x-box in japan, and thats were it really counts. sales have DOUBLED! the US is also a key point, yes, but the UK doesn't matter much overall.
> If the keep up special offers like these, they might well pull it
> off...
and loose Millions and millions in the procces. casual games will buy an ultra cheap console and buy a few games.
a 'hardcore' gamer would doubt the stability of a console that is lowering its price almost every month 'n' a half, but would buy lots of good on the console of their choce software.
and dont snipe back about how if nintendo were to pull the same stunt, I would praise their actions. I would seriously worry and consider buying games in bulk because of their apparent failure.
He's always got something to do with it... [shakes fist]
Maverick42 wrote:
> er-no wrote:
> Bullying their way into the gaming market, suing Bungie then buying
> them
> out and giving out false sales statistics.
>
> Oo-er, explain please :D.
I don't know but David Dickinson had something to do with it.
> er-no wrote:
> Bullying their way into the gaming market, suing Bungie then buying
> them
> out and giving out false sales statistics.
>
> Oo-er, explain please :D.
I don't know but David Dickinson had something to do with it.
er-no wrote:
> Bullying their way into the gaming market, suing Bungie then buying them
> out and giving out false sales statistics.
Oo-er, explain please :D.
> Bullying their way into the gaming market, suing Bungie then buying them
> out and giving out false sales statistics.
Oo-er, explain please :D.
Mr Snuggly wrote:
> And there's no more Xbox deals for a while, we know about them before
> they happen.
How do you? One of the cuts that happened after it was released happened over the course of a night and GAME found out about it within the daily bulletin...
> And there's no more Xbox deals for a while, we know about them before
> they happen.
How do you? One of the cuts that happened after it was released happened over the course of a night and GAME found out about it within the daily bulletin...
Tiltawhirl wrote a fantastic reply on the first page of this topic.
Well done.
Well done.
So far. The XBox is failing in Japan and has not done what Microsoft expected of it.
I don't mind the console, as you guys know. However, I hate, rephrase, I deteste the power Microsoft believe they have as a company. Bullying their way into the gaming market, suing Bungie then buying them out and giving out false sales statistics. Its all too much like 1984. I do sometimes post with hate to the console because for the xboxians out there, it will be a HUGE shame if Nintendo ever leave the hardware market. It wouldn't as I can see it be as much of a loss to the market if Microsoft left. However they won't because they can afford to stay there as they seem to be able to sell shoddy and crap operating systems.
:)
I don't mind the console, as you guys know. However, I hate, rephrase, I deteste the power Microsoft believe they have as a company. Bullying their way into the gaming market, suing Bungie then buying them out and giving out false sales statistics. Its all too much like 1984. I do sometimes post with hate to the console because for the xboxians out there, it will be a HUGE shame if Nintendo ever leave the hardware market. It wouldn't as I can see it be as much of a loss to the market if Microsoft left. However they won't because they can afford to stay there as they seem to be able to sell shoddy and crap operating systems.
:)
Without trying to offend anyone here, I really don't think Microsoft need business advice.
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