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"PS2 makes christmas affordable."

How many shops have you been in this Christmas and seen PS2 games being sold for £29.99 or less. Comet, Dixons, PC World they are all at it and the reason they can afford to sell PS2 games at that price is the fact they can offset the price against the many more sales they will get for that particular title.

Then ask yourself how many Xbox and GC titles you see for these sort of prices Sony make gaming affordable hell they even have Platinium games that are £20 or 2 of £30 in a lot of places.

Hey!! You ruined the Drunk Cow chain!!!!!

More importantly - who give's a damn about DVD's anyway? It's about the games, you cretin. Not because it's got more extras.

maddmun wrote:

> Xbox + 4 games + DVD kit = £230
>
> GC plus DVD player of the same quality as the PS2's = £150,
> GC(along with PS2 quality DVD player) + 4 games + Memory Card =
> £320
>
> PS2 + 4 games + Memory Card = £360
>
> Hmmm, X-Box is the best deal, after the GC, the PS2 has a shoddy DVD
> player by the way.

Dame right you're a maddmun with comments like these.

Firstly a GC and a dvd player of the quality you are suggesting would cost you well over £200.

Secondly what is this rubbish about the the PS2 dvd quality have you actually ever bothered to try it, I think you will find the dvd playback is fine and certainly not shoddy infact with my dvd remote I have functions that some cheaper end dvd's do not.

Thirdly why should you have to pay more for the use of dvd on the Xbox you don't with the PS2. That is just a con MS trying to make money from nothing again.

Then there is the PS2 price with 4 games £360 where did you pluck that price from, if you did pay this for one then you're the sap. £199 will easily buy you a PS2 with 4 games and there is no need for a dvd kit either it plays them out of the box.

maddmun wrote:
GC plus DVD player of the same quality as the PS2's = £150.

So since the GC is £130, you can get a standalone DVD player for connecting to your tv for £20. Don't think so.

As for quality, I had a Pioneer 515 Silver international R1/R2 drive which cost a lot of money! The difference between that and my PS2 DVD was "slight". You no what I replaced my Pioneer with? A Sony 900 DVD/SACD drive with on board dolby digital decoder & Precision drive laser. But even that is only about 15% better, and most of that is just the difference between the colour saturation and a bit of contrast.

C***-face is back.

Top Score be off with you annoying little child.

Update2.01 wrote:

> As for "value for money", I know some 1 who wants there
> first DVD player and a next gen console. GameCube + £60 DVD
> player = £190. PS2 (with built in DVD) = £169. The Xbox
> can also do this, but only if you have the DVD kit.

Xbox + 4 games + DVD kit = £230

GC plus DVD player of the same quality as the PS2's = £150,
GC(along with PS2 quality DVD player) + 4 games + Memory Card = £320

PS2 + 4 games + Memory Card = £360

Hmmm, X-Box is the best deal, after the GC, the PS2 has a shoddy DVD player by the way.

And don't go, AH YOUR JUST JEALOUS!!! Because I own both a GC and PS2 and shelled out on a DVD player because the PS2's was so shockingly bed.

Today wrote:
> Xbox has Dvd player as well and could also be used as a second. Also
> graphic's are much more detailed, you don't need a memory card because
> of built in hard-drive (ps2 needs lots of expensive memmory cards.)
> Xbox had surround sound 5.4 dolby which gives better atmosphere to
> games that are compatible. No decent or New games will be availible
> for Ps2 at that price. expect the xbox game prices to drop soon seeing
> as xbox has been out for a shorter period most of the platinum games
> are over a year old and most people have them anyway.

I thought the Xbox and PS2 had Dolby Digital 5.1. Unless you go "mega money" for Dolby Digital EX - but you dont get that on a console! GameCube only offers analogue Dolby Pro-Logic 2 surround sound.

As for "value for money", I know some 1 who wants there first DVD player and a next gen console. GameCube + £60 DVD player = £190. PS2 (with built in DVD) = £169. The Xbox can also do this, but only if you have the DVD kit.

XBox does have a hard disc built in. It is a good idea. But I some times take saved games to other locations using my PS2 memory card. You still need an Xbox memory card if you want to do the same thing.

As for Broadband, that only works if your area is wired up to broadband. Then you have to pay a monthly fee for your broadband line. Then there is the Game charges which will be needed in order to use Xbox, PS2, and GC online. Looks like Microsoft will require us to use a credit card for payment as well (in the States, a Debit card or other form is no good – it must be a credit card) – so that’s the youngsters out then!

On HMV's website a couple of weeks ago (not anymore) Xbox's PGR was £9.99 plus about £2.95 p&p. Total, £12.94.

Ha.

Also, Xbox plus 4 games - £200. Xbox console £159.99. That makes four games for £40, £10 each.

Ha.

Gamecube is cheaper as a console, memory cards are also cheaper. Some games can be bought quite cheaply, I know as I've seen them but as I've not got a GC, I didn't remember where.

Ha.

PS2, most expensive console although it is actually the oldest. £25 for a memory card. No games £169.99, that means £194.99 with memory card. That leaves you £5 to try and get four games - I'd like to see you try to do that.

What’s the point though? Do people honestly care so much about the consoles they don't own? I have to ask myself whether many people on this forum actually bought a console to play games on, or just bought them to shout about, like top snore here.

I think my PS2 is great. I don't care what anyone else likes (as long as at least one in four has an XBOX w/ Halo).

I think we should ban all topics that say any console is better than another, or PCs are better etc. just because they cause to much hassle.