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This thread has been linked to the game 'Final Fantasy X'.
Thanks to the lovely boot disc (which is rapidly becoming my favourite possession!) I loaded up this for the first time today. The first FF game I've seen playing at full speed on a full screen ;-) Can't wait to get stuck into it again to see the whole thing in the correct proportions!
I also got a Japanese copy of Tekken Tag for £8, so I can now enjoy Tekken at full speed too. Although that will all be meaningless by the end of next month... SOUL CALIBUR! Woohoo!
I also got a Japanese copy of Tekken Tag for £8, so I can now enjoy Tekken at full speed too. Although that will all be meaningless by the end of next month... SOUL CALIBUR! Woohoo!
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DeltaJava wrote:
> What's the knife trick then? And does the flip top case work by just
> slicing the top of the PS2 (the area where the DVD drive is)?
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Just explained the knife-trick for you.
As for the flip-top...
You take the original top panel of the PS2 off and replace it with the flip-top panel thing. It has something like the PS1 cover on the top where you dont need to use the front loading tray on PS2 anymore and just pop open the circle thing. Then swap disks without having the signal sent to the CPU and so the back-up disk isnt checked for region or anything and so it boots up. It does look a little fiddley to install but im sure its easier that it looks.
Ok?
> What's the knife trick then? And does the flip top case work by just
> slicing the top of the PS2 (the area where the DVD drive is)?
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Just explained the knife-trick for you.
As for the flip-top...
You take the original top panel of the PS2 off and replace it with the flip-top panel thing. It has something like the PS1 cover on the top where you dont need to use the front loading tray on PS2 anymore and just pop open the circle thing. Then swap disks without having the signal sent to the CPU and so the back-up disk isnt checked for region or anything and so it boots up. It does look a little fiddley to install but im sure its easier that it looks.
Ok?
Damn, posted too slow.
OK, beaten to it by Hercules.
The knife trick is not forcing the tray open exactly - you just slide a mechanism across that lets the tray move freely. There's no force involved.
The knife trick is not forcing the tray open exactly - you just slide a mechanism across that lets the tray move freely. There's no force involved.
What's the knife trick then? And does the flip top case work by just slicing the top of the PS2 (the area where the DVD drive is)?
And yeah, you can use the 'Knife Trick' without having to actually use a mod-chip or a flip-top.
BUT... this is what you'll have to do (in little detail):
Y'know the front loading tray, the little PS logo thats stuck onto that little plastic bit at the front. Well that plastic bit needs to be taken off completely... and stays off. Which leaves the PS2 open to dust etc. Then, you get a little card or something which will act as a lever to pull the disk tray out manually (which doesnt make the PS2 send out the signal) and so the swap can occur without the PS2 checking the next disk. It will then boot the game.
I suggest that you dont use this method though, it will destroy your PS2 in a flash.
BUT... this is what you'll have to do (in little detail):
Y'know the front loading tray, the little PS logo thats stuck onto that little plastic bit at the front. Well that plastic bit needs to be taken off completely... and stays off. Which leaves the PS2 open to dust etc. Then, you get a little card or something which will act as a lever to pull the disk tray out manually (which doesnt make the PS2 send out the signal) and so the swap can occur without the PS2 checking the next disk. It will then boot the game.
I suggest that you dont use this method though, it will destroy your PS2 in a flash.
OK, just for FFF:
Every time you press eject on a Playstation or PS2 it knows the disc has changed, so automatically does another check to see if it's the right region. On the PS1 it was a button that clicked when the lid opened, which was easily solved with a spring to hold the button down. On the PS2 it's all electronic though, so you need to bypass the circuitry on the eject button - hence modchips.
The boot disc works perfectly to convince the machine you are using a valid disc, but then you have to swap them without pushing eject.
The flip top lids are extremely well made and fit exactly. I would recommend it, unless you are really nervous about using a screwdriver, lol!
Every time you press eject on a Playstation or PS2 it knows the disc has changed, so automatically does another check to see if it's the right region. On the PS1 it was a button that clicked when the lid opened, which was easily solved with a spring to hold the button down. On the PS2 it's all electronic though, so you need to bypass the circuitry on the eject button - hence modchips.
The boot disc works perfectly to convince the machine you are using a valid disc, but then you have to swap them without pushing eject.
The flip top lids are extremely well made and fit exactly. I would recommend it, unless you are really nervous about using a screwdriver, lol!
Thankee children.
I'm guessing the knife trick is forcing the tray open.
I'm guessing the knife trick is forcing the tray open.
Just read it all. They didnt say that you can use them on their own, they just didnt say that you needed something else.
Here's how it will go if you just use the disks on their own:
Open tray > Insert 'Swap Magic' disk > Close tray > Wait for interface to load > Open tray > **[Message sent to PS2 CPU saying that the tray has opened, it will then check the disk that it sees next and if its not a proper PS2 game disk it won't load]** > Swap 'Swap Magic' disk with PS2 back-up CD/DVD game > PS2 checks disk > Sees that its not a proper > Doesnt boot > Screen goes black.
Y'see where the disks on their own will go wrong?
Well a modchip will stop the PS2 CPU from checking the next disk when the disk tray is opened... so its fine for a swap to occur.
The flip-top doesnt even require you to open the front loading tray so the signal for the PS2 to check the next disk wont happen... so again, its fine to swap and then boot.
But with the disks, the signal will make it so the PS2 realises the next disk isnt proper and then just wont boot.
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Here's how it will go if you just use the disks on their own:
Open tray > Insert 'Swap Magic' disk > Close tray > Wait for interface to load > Open tray > **[Message sent to PS2 CPU saying that the tray has opened, it will then check the disk that it sees next and if its not a proper PS2 game disk it won't load]** > Swap 'Swap Magic' disk with PS2 back-up CD/DVD game > PS2 checks disk > Sees that its not a proper > Doesnt boot > Screen goes black.
Y'see where the disks on their own will go wrong?
Well a modchip will stop the PS2 CPU from checking the next disk when the disk tray is opened... so its fine for a swap to occur.
The flip-top doesnt even require you to open the front loading tray so the signal for the PS2 to check the next disk wont happen... so again, its fine to swap and then boot.
But with the disks, the signal will make it so the PS2 realises the next disk isnt proper and then just wont boot.
:-)
No, you *can* swap discs without modifying your PS2 (in as much as you don't invalidate the warranty by opening the case). That's the knife trick hercules mentioned. Which is actually really easy and no, you don't have to use a knife.
I don't understand.
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Someone explain the whole boot-disk thing to me. Why do you need a extra thing to get it working?
Explain in terms of what the PS2 actually does.
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Someone explain the whole boot-disk thing to me. Why do you need a extra thing to get it working?
Explain in terms of what the PS2 actually does.
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