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According to news on the BBC ladies are not buying enough games because they are not targeted/catered for well enough:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2839019.stm
so I just wanted to find out if many females frequent these forums ?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2839019.stm
so I just wanted to find out if many females frequent these forums ?
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Rosalind wrote:
> I remeber playing D&D and Middle Earth games on bits of paper and
> stuff when I was wee lass. Remember Hero Quest?
>
> *sigh*
>
Middel earth was a great RPG back in the day. Those critical tables!!!
*sigh*
> I remeber playing D&D and Middle Earth games on bits of paper and
> stuff when I was wee lass. Remember Hero Quest?
>
> *sigh*
>
Middel earth was a great RPG back in the day. Those critical tables!!!
*sigh*
Thats okay you never did anyway.
But to be serious for a second, and although I know you were joking to some extent. Those sort of sterotypes are exactly what I was talking about, that prevent girls from ever getting into games.
But to be serious for a second, and although I know you were joking to some extent. Those sort of sterotypes are exactly what I was talking about, that prevent girls from ever getting into games.
I no longer believe that you are of female persuasion.
I remeber playing D&D and Middle Earth games on bits of paper and stuff when I was wee lass. Remember Hero Quest?
*sigh*
ahh the memories.
I'm still getting around to playing Balders Gate 1 & 2, Ice Wind Dale and Pools of Radience.
*Checks to make sure she is still femnale*
*sigh*
ahh the memories.
I'm still getting around to playing Balders Gate 1 & 2, Ice Wind Dale and Pools of Radience.
*Checks to make sure she is still femnale*
i didn't say that did i?
hev seems to enjoy rpgs...
Not hardcore ones like AD&D things mind... girls certainly don't get them...
hev seems to enjoy rpgs...
Not hardcore ones like AD&D things mind... girls certainly don't get them...
I guess the Gamecube should prrobably appeal to girls.
Your right about Final Fantasy too. I always thought that they were aimed at female gamers until I was told in no uncertain terms that Girls don't 'get' RPGs.
Your right about Final Fantasy too. I always thought that they were aimed at female gamers until I was told in no uncertain terms that Girls don't 'get' RPGs.
A lot of games don't appeal to women. Why? Because they're mostly designed by men who were hooked on Doom as teenagers.
Too many girls want games with a tragic/love story line, and no Doom veteran is going to produce that.
That said, if girls only knew that games like Final Fantasy were at large, they'd get into gaming in no time.
Personally, I think the problem stems from the idea that, in most female circles, gaming is just considered sad and boring. You can produce all the "female-oriented" games you like, but if it's a social faux-pas to play them, then they won't sell.
Of course, Sony do little to help this image, by constantly linking themselves with football advertising.
Too many girls want games with a tragic/love story line, and no Doom veteran is going to produce that.
That said, if girls only knew that games like Final Fantasy were at large, they'd get into gaming in no time.
Personally, I think the problem stems from the idea that, in most female circles, gaming is just considered sad and boring. You can produce all the "female-oriented" games you like, but if it's a social faux-pas to play them, then they won't sell.
Of course, Sony do little to help this image, by constantly linking themselves with football advertising.
"I look at my daughter's class now and the girls all know Pokemon. When I was growing up, I didn't know any of this stuff."
Well no one expected you to be able to see into the future
Duh
(Made me laugh)
Well no one expected you to be able to see into the future
Duh
(Made me laugh)
I find it hard to understand why Games don't appeal to women. I wouldn't want my games to be targeted any differently to the way they are now.
True I tend to pick a female character if there is one on offer, but it doesn't matter to me if the female character in question is 'eye candy' as the article puts it. I don't see why that would offend anyone either. If I want to pretend to be someone else I'm not going to particularly want to play as a fat middle aged house wife am I.
There are some worrying ideas coming from some of these groups of women who profess to have the female gamer in mind. But one look at the team behind Skies of Arcaida can show what a group of female developers can actually achieve. But then I have always been told 'Girls don't like RPGs'.
I think the problem is more to do with the stigma attached to being a female who is into games (I'm talking by her own right, not a girl who playes on her boyfriends console occasionaly). In my relasionship, I am the driving force behind buying games and consoles, yes my Boyfriend like to play them too, but to be honsest, It is me that decideds to a large extend what we buy.
Girls just aren't expected to pay games, and so they don't. As a child I had lots of friends outside of my own school, who were male and owned games consoles, so I often played games with them. My parents were never of the type that bracketed me as a girly girl, and as I was an only child, I never had any pressure from a sibling telling me that games weren't for me. So for my 12th birthday my parents bought me a Gamegear and I loved it, and have loved games, especially RPGs ever since.
I think if girls thought is was okay to play the same games as boys did, from an early age, instead of being expected to play with baby dolls or games such as that crappy kate and ashley thingy, then we would see far more females into gaming on the whole.
True I tend to pick a female character if there is one on offer, but it doesn't matter to me if the female character in question is 'eye candy' as the article puts it. I don't see why that would offend anyone either. If I want to pretend to be someone else I'm not going to particularly want to play as a fat middle aged house wife am I.
There are some worrying ideas coming from some of these groups of women who profess to have the female gamer in mind. But one look at the team behind Skies of Arcaida can show what a group of female developers can actually achieve. But then I have always been told 'Girls don't like RPGs'.
I think the problem is more to do with the stigma attached to being a female who is into games (I'm talking by her own right, not a girl who playes on her boyfriends console occasionaly). In my relasionship, I am the driving force behind buying games and consoles, yes my Boyfriend like to play them too, but to be honsest, It is me that decideds to a large extend what we buy.
Girls just aren't expected to pay games, and so they don't. As a child I had lots of friends outside of my own school, who were male and owned games consoles, so I often played games with them. My parents were never of the type that bracketed me as a girly girl, and as I was an only child, I never had any pressure from a sibling telling me that games weren't for me. So for my 12th birthday my parents bought me a Gamegear and I loved it, and have loved games, especially RPGs ever since.
I think if girls thought is was okay to play the same games as boys did, from an early age, instead of being expected to play with baby dolls or games such as that crappy kate and ashley thingy, then we would see far more females into gaming on the whole.
On Friday nights I put on my best glad rags, change my name to Doris and wait under a street light for some action - does that count ?
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