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Thu 29/11/01 at 11:43
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It's been reported in a variety of sources today, that Juan Sebastian Veron has a get out clause in his conrtact which enables him to leave old trafford at the end of the season.

Apparently, he is initially on a 'one year trial period' at the moment, with a buy-out clause set at around £32 million. The united board have officially denied such rumours, but one thing which is not in doubt is that Veron is not happy where he is. He claims to be unfamiliar with the English style of football and the role he has been asked to fulfill.

Personally, I think getting rid of him would be a good thing. Not only has he been unimpressive for the majority of the games he's taken part in this season, but United have changed their formation and style of play in order to fit him into the squad. There simply isn't room for Veron in a midfield with Beckham, Giggs, Keane and Scholes, and his arriveal had done as much as anything to unsettle the players.
Thu 10/01/02 at 18:38
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To be honest i'm not entirely sure why Fergie made the effort to sign him, when he already had a top quartet in midfield already! All I can see that Veron's done is disrput the midfield, which has effected the formation, effecting the defence, therefore causing bad patches this season! This has all happened because Fergie feels he has to play a £28.1m Argentine international, and it doesn't matter how or where he plays. Apart from a good start to the season, Juan-Séba hasn't really done much to impress me, and I wouldn't mind seeing him leave this summer. Without selling an existing top midfielder, the first XI has become a problem for Fergie, and rumours are now growing that David Beckham of all people will leave then club!!

What problems could occur next season for us, if a new manager trying to form his own team, is appointed???
Thu 10/01/02 at 18:01
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Personally I dont Believe Ferguson should play Veron through the middle.

Veron's passing is very inconsistent and he gives away the ball far to often. Down the right he is less of a liability and that is where i believe he should he play.

It was nice to see how the mid-field rotated agaisnt villa before butt got injured. Everyone had thier down running down the wing. But with the injury, veron took more of a permanent central role and i dont belive he should play it for United. He is allright against the "average" teams, but he doesnt perform against the top teams.
Thu 10/01/02 at 11:38
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i've noticed now that giggs is back veron has improved alot. maybe because giggs can create openings and passes the ball around alot which allows veron to actually get in the attacking midfielder position just behind the front 2 which he's accustomised and more comfortable. keane doesn't allow veron to get up there and beckham's more a player who just crosses it into the box and waits for a striker to get on the end of it. as long as giggs is fit veron should be able to play more of his suited football and show his real quality. if your talking about selling someone sell keane. he's getting on a bit and he'd still bring in a fair price. and before anyone starts claiming "oh whenever keane's injured we lose". most of the times he's been injured so has giggs and giggs is far more influential and deadly in my opinion. from the games i've seen on sky and the few games i've managed to find the time and travel up there, this year keanes just been getting his defenders in trouble by insisting to play it back to them when they've got about 4 players around them
Thu 10/01/02 at 10:56
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From www.sportal.co.uk

But Veron told Gazzetta Dello Sport: "I was very proud to find out that the Cragnotti family would like to take me back to Lazio.

"...in life one does not know and I don't want to close the door to Lazio for the future."

"And I must admit that in England, I have still not found the warmth of the Lazio fans."


As far as I can tell, he is very good at this. His diplomacy is quite impressive. I personally don't think he'll leave any time soon, but seeing as there is nothing much to go on either way right now, it's foolish to say he'll be leaving.

- Though you will notice he appears to be a lot happier at united now than he was way back when I first posted this topic.
Thu 10/01/02 at 00:29
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taken from Football365.com

"Every day is exciting - every match presents a new challenge for me and the team. I think people thought it might be hard for me to settle here but my only regret is I didn't come earlier. It is everything I expected and more," the 26-year-old told F365.

"The club have been great, the players supportive and the fans have welcomed me with open arms. On the field I enjoy life without too much pressure and without that pressure I find it easier to play and play to better myself.

"There is no shortage of excitement here," Veron continued. "When I came to England everyone insisted that Manchester United would win everything after they signed me and Ruud van Nistelrooy. The club were already strong without us and it would appear our signings would only strengthen their resolve. We've had indifferent, good and bad results. But I love the excitement. At the moment the resolve is strong, everyone is playing well and we've gone on a good run. Life is good."

Despite his relaxed attitude, there is no question that Veron is taking life at United very seriously. But he is certainly happy that football is a little less serious in England than it was in Italy.

"The mentality is different," he explained. "Football is not such a way of life - in Italy, it is everything and more. As a result, you are under so much pressure that it's hard to play without worrying about the consequences, particularly in defeat. It's fantastic when things are going well, but when they don't you pay a heavy price for it. You sense the uneasiness of it all and that kind of pressure leads to mistakes.

"I feel you need to play with a clear head and without pressure to perform well. Sometimes that isn't easy to do in Italy."

Veron added: "The media don't help in respect of privacy because I think they encourage the supporters to invade your privacy. It's extremely difficult to go out for meals, anywhere really, without being pestered.

"As much as I'm becoming better known in England, the fans are much more polite here. I'm not used to that, but I enjoy it."
Sat 01/12/01 at 15:51
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But it's not all about individual players, it's about 11 players working together as a team. And with Veron being un-able to adjust to life in England, he could be causing a problem for the other 10 men, as he cannot work that well with them!! He's gunna have to face a lot of stick in the 2002 World Cup next year, especially when England meet Argentina!! That's if he's still at United of course!
Sat 01/12/01 at 15:48
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I read in the paper today that Lazio want Veron back.
Is this a possibility for Veron do you reckon, or will he stay at Man U?
I hope he stays, because he is a good player, and at the moment Man U need all the good players they can get.
Sat 01/12/01 at 15:44
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If we play like again, just like we did this morning against Chelsea, then I wouldn't blame Juan-Seba for wanting to leave!! I don't even see why he was signed??? Fergie feels he HAS to play his 'record signing', but that really has messed up the team's formation. We didn't need him with Scholes, Beackham and co. and I think we could be doing even better now if he wasn't at Old Trafford!! He started very well, but hasn't adjusted or been consistant enough for the rest of the season.
Sat 01/12/01 at 11:05
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I heard a couple of weeks ago, on Football Italia that in Veron's contract, he had the option after 1 year playing for Utd, he could sign for Lazio for the same price that Utd paid for him.

Veron did not want to leave Lazio, but after Lazio's spending spree in the Summer of 2001, money had to be found!
Sat 01/12/01 at 10:18
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As a Man Utd fan, Veron's style dosen't suit english football. If this Edgar Davids part-Exchnage is true, then i hope Man Utd accept it becasue Edgar Davids is brilliant.

There is also rumours that Liverpool are signing Dwight Yorke. If this is true, then fergie is looking to buy Kluivert from Barcelona which he was gonna sign ages ago.

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