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Thu 15/11/01 at 19:11
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Listen......i know that every one thinks that the Xbox will be great and the PS2 is the best consol eva but.. well to be frank (which im not coz my name is Ed) there not!
Sooo the X box may have good Graphics, but just 'coz it was made by Bill Gates doesnt mean that it'll rule the world. For example hes going to release it with only a couple of launch titles. Next the PS2....which i must addmit is very cool......but an asking price of £300 for a consol.wts the point!......its a lame attempt to make people think that its thet little bit better.
Now i come on to my main part.......THE GAME CUBE!. (a glint of exitment comes to his eye) The big N SOOOOOO much better than the novices of the consol wars. Only £150 asking price. Advanced , easier to program, mini disk type things (so games can be produced quicker) wire less controllers.....i mean how coool is dat, Amazing graphics, and al the good games are comin out on it........loads that werer gonna be for the PS2 and Xbox. SO there (toung waggling spitting horribley) And with Siggy Mirimato behind us....WE CANT LOSE!!.

Pleze tell me your thoughts.
Fri 16/11/01 at 11:35
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Edgy wrote:
> Once upon a time...
>All three consoles have a good chance at winning.

When was that? Must have been before a) They named it Gamecube, and b) before people knew it was from Nintendo :-)

That part was of course a joke. Serious bit:


The
> PS2, in my opinion, is a load of rubbish.

Glad you said "opinion", due to the fact opinions are allowed to be that wrong :-) Alright, I guess I`m still not getting serious yet.

> It has long loading times,

If you are a rodent, yes. To humans, who move more slowly, its fine, and you barely notice it.

> a third rate controller

You missed "opinion" from this bit.

and also relies heavily on third party games (moreso than the
> X-box will).

What`s wrong with that? Is it naughty? Will the PS2 get a good ol` spanking? Stupid comment.


However there are a lot of PS2 adverts going about on TV (that one
> where the truck hits the dear and smashes up makes the console seem like it has
> bad physics in games and is a shoddy machine)

Well, obviously some people aren`t going to be able to understand it, but one day, we`ll get somebody to explain it to you. Is that alright :-)

> and there are plenty behind the
> goals at football stadiums. Even though I hate to admit it, I think the PS2 will
> do quite well against the other two contenders.

Quite well? More like... (Don`t worry, I`m not going to go there. I`m having enough fun already).

The GameCube, I hope, will be
> the best performing console out of the three.

I doubt there will be much difference. However, one serious comment here: I have heard that the GC is easy to develope for which means that it will make a good start, and look good from the beginning, BUT it won`t progress at the rate the PS2 will. With a more complex architecture, there is supposed to be a lot more potential in the PS2.

It's the easiest to develop for,
> it's got a lot of third party support as well as having a lot of games already
> bein made by Nintendo, and thus it is a powerful contender.

Games made by Nintendo isn`t that great an incentive, as it takes us back to the days when we were under 10. The ease of developement, we`ve covered, and the third party support... means nothing if the third party is just a donkey or something.

All three
> consoles have their good and badpoints. Overall it depends on who buys them.

Eh? I would put something here, but I don`t quite get that. Perhaps you could explain it to me in return for me explaining the PS2 advert to you :-)


A
> console can be brilliant, but still sell bad, so it depends on who puts their
> cash where.

So how well a console sells depends on how many people buy it? I think I follow that.

It's going to be a close battle in the 128-bit era, and it's a pity
> the Dreamcast isn't still in the competition.

Yes, it`d be good if Nintendo and Sega were still in with a shot. Ah well.

But never mind, just get the
> console you think is the best, play the games that you like, and don't dismiss
> the other consoles completely before you've played them.

Don`t even dismiss them after you`ve played them. The amount of times I`ve heard this:
" I went over my frends hows, and he az a PS2, it was rubish, and I hated it. We played loads for an hour, and it was bad.... yada yada yada..."

Load of rubbish.


..and they all
> lived happily ever after.

Sorry, I thought we were having a console debate.. I must have stumbled into a fairy tale.
Fri 16/11/01 at 11:33
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Gaystation Poo smash Nintardo wiv fase
Fri 16/11/01 at 11:24
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But if the product is rushed, it will be of a poor quality and the competition will have no problem improving on the design.
Fri 16/11/01 at 11:19
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Even if they rush them.

More consoles = more competition and the companies have to outdo each other in quality and price.

Once again: We win.
Fri 16/11/01 at 11:09
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not if they rush them
Fri 16/11/01 at 10:16
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So a PS2, Xbox and PS3 for me then.

I like companies panicking and bringing out consoles early, we're all the winners
Fri 16/11/01 at 10:10
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This is from Gamespot and has been posted elsewhere, but is relevant to this thread...

Even if you're not interested in the Sony rep's comments, it's worth a read because it contains comments and insight from INDEPENDENT industry analysts.

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Sony says the Xbox could accelerate the industry

Sony's president feels that the Xbox could force the company's hand in releasing its PS3 console earlier than intended.

In a recent interview with The Financial Times, Kunitake Ando, president and CEO of Sony, said that the Microsoft Xbox, which comes with a hard drive and Ethernet adapter out of the box, could force the company to transition to the PS3 earlier than intended. "The biggest threat to the PlayStation 2 is that the Xbox changes the industry's life cycle," said Ando, who feels that it is unclear whether the current PS2 business model is sustainable and that its console life cycle could be reduced to three years as a result. Although sales of the PlayStation 2 console remain strong, Ando said that the company is still in the process of recuperating its high front-end chip manufacturing costs.

Given his comments, it is not surprising that Ando feels that Microsoft has replaced Nintendo as the biggest competitor for his company's games division. "Nintendo's GameCube has been a disappointment in Japan, they have sold only a third of what they had hoped," he said. "The PlayStation 2 is viewed by gamers as the games console to own." Ando further stated that although there was interest within Sony to enter the handheld business to compete directly with Nintendo's Game Boy Advance, Ken Kutaragi, president of Sony Computer Entertainment, requested that the company remain out of that market in order to focus its efforts exclusively on the PlayStation 2.

Despite Ando's comments, a majority of industry analysts feel that the PlayStation 2 has strong sustainable potential to become the market leader among the current generation of consoles. A recent report by the International Development Group forecasted that the PlayStation 2 installed base would grow to 34 million by 2004 in North America, from its current base of 7.2 million units. IDG further projected that the Microsoft Xbox would reach an installed base of about 20 million units in North America by 2004, while the Nintendo GameCube would reach a base of 18 million units in that same period.

Research for and development of the PlayStation 3 is already under way. Sony has partnered with Toshiba and IBM, as part of a combined $400 million, five-year investment, to develop the technology for the PS3. Production of the chip, at last report, was slated to begin in 2004. According to Sony, the new chip design will be fundamentally different from what the company has used in the past and will have a greater focus on delivering communication and broadband services.
Fri 16/11/01 at 09:48
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Once upon a time...

All three consoles have a good chance at winning.

The X-box is rubish eh? I admit that I'm not going to get it though. I will if it goes down in price near the end of it's console life, but I think the GameCube will be enough for me. Microsoft have the money and power to make the X-box the most popular console, however they do reply heavily on third party games.

The PS2, in my opinion, is a load of rubbish. It has long loading times, a third rate controller and also relies heavily on third party games (moreso than the X-box will). However there are a lot of PS2 adverts going about on TV (that one where the truck hits the dear and smashes up makes the console seem like it has bad physics in games and is a shoddy machine) and there are plenty behind the goals at football stadiums. Even though I hate to admit it, I think the PS2 will do quite well against the other two contenders.

The GameCube, I hope, will be the best performing console out of the three. It's the easiest to develop for, it's got a lot of third party support as well as having a lot of games already bein made by Nintendo, and thus it is a powerful contender.

All three consoles have their good and badpoints. Overall it depends on who buys them. A console can be brilliant, but still sell bad, so it depends on who puts their cash where. It's going to be a close battle in the 128-bit era, and it's a pity the Dreamcast isn't still in the competition. But never mind, just get the console you think is the best, play the games that you like, and don't dismiss the other consoles completely before you've played them.

...and they all lived happily ever after.
Fri 16/11/01 at 09:47
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WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> Your Honour wrote:
> I'm beginning to find them quite enjoyable....

...


I was joking, of course.
Fri 16/11/01 at 09:31
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Large oily men in pants laying on each other.

Fights in Upwire.

I smell man-action returning to the forums, and I like.

Ug

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