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Well, having never really played a Zelda game before, and certainly never having owned one, I decided to chance the Wind Waker.
Right now I'm surprised at how popular it is. The speech is really annoyingly slow, with one of the most infuriating noises ever recorded at the end of each sentence. Plus the first word of the sentence is usually said, for example "Hey" or "Hello", which is just...unnecessary.
The graphics? Great in a lot of places, in others it's merely passable. I really like some bits, especially the bird that captures Aryll at the start, but the far scenery is made out of cardboard.
The jumping kind of annoys me as well. There is no jump button, but he just jumps when he reaches the end of a platform. It removes the skill, but I guess that's not really the point of the game. That's what your going to say, right? Okay, I take that on board, but at one point I jumped off a ledge thinking it was the right place to go, only to find I'd already been here and couldn't get back up to the ledge. Surely this isn't the point either? A manual jump would've let me get onto a ladder to get back up there.
Now, I haven't got very far for two reasons - hardly any time on the game, no space on the memory card. So I can't comment on battles further into it, but the ones I have done have been incredibly easy. To the point of boredom. Even when you have to get a weapon from the opponent, all you do is stand there pressing block and wait for it to hit you. And it even misses a lot of the time.
Basically random musings here, but it seems very simplistic and Mario-ish most of the time. I'm probably the only person who will understand that, but basically it isn't a good thing. And I know most people won't have got this far because the moment they saw it was primarily an anti-Zelda thread they'll have furiously stuffed on their angry hats ready to type out an amazingly flawed and typo-riddled reply on why I'm wrong in under three seconds, and that's fine. If you want to do that, go ahead, but don't expect to get anywhere. It's all subjective, there is no proof, and a lot of people can't even tell the difference between fact and opinion.
Oh, and what's with those guard pigs who have 360 degree vision?
Right now I'm surprised at how popular it is. The speech is really annoyingly slow, with one of the most infuriating noises ever recorded at the end of each sentence. Plus the first word of the sentence is usually said, for example "Hey" or "Hello", which is just...unnecessary.
The graphics? Great in a lot of places, in others it's merely passable. I really like some bits, especially the bird that captures Aryll at the start, but the far scenery is made out of cardboard.
The jumping kind of annoys me as well. There is no jump button, but he just jumps when he reaches the end of a platform. It removes the skill, but I guess that's not really the point of the game. That's what your going to say, right? Okay, I take that on board, but at one point I jumped off a ledge thinking it was the right place to go, only to find I'd already been here and couldn't get back up to the ledge. Surely this isn't the point either? A manual jump would've let me get onto a ladder to get back up there.
Now, I haven't got very far for two reasons - hardly any time on the game, no space on the memory card. So I can't comment on battles further into it, but the ones I have done have been incredibly easy. To the point of boredom. Even when you have to get a weapon from the opponent, all you do is stand there pressing block and wait for it to hit you. And it even misses a lot of the time.
Basically random musings here, but it seems very simplistic and Mario-ish most of the time. I'm probably the only person who will understand that, but basically it isn't a good thing. And I know most people won't have got this far because the moment they saw it was primarily an anti-Zelda thread they'll have furiously stuffed on their angry hats ready to type out an amazingly flawed and typo-riddled reply on why I'm wrong in under three seconds, and that's fine. If you want to do that, go ahead, but don't expect to get anywhere. It's all subjective, there is no proof, and a lot of people can't even tell the difference between fact and opinion.
Oh, and what's with those guard pigs who have 360 degree vision?
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Whitestripes accusing me of wild accusations, that's the funniest thing I've heard all day...
Blank wrote:
> It's not as if I do it for every release, as you seem to think. Just
> because I'm not prepared to kiss the unwiped hole of Nintendo for a
> mediocre game, that doesn't make me the devil incarnate.
Mediocre.
Interesting, whether you like it or not; Zelda recieved an average rating of 98%...
>
> Most people seem to love everything Nintendo produce - you don't see
> me saying "Jeez, anything Nintendo releases you love!"
> (which by the way - you do).
Also not true.
Go ahead and proove your wild accusations.
> It's not as if I do it for every release, as you seem to think. Just
> because I'm not prepared to kiss the unwiped hole of Nintendo for a
> mediocre game, that doesn't make me the devil incarnate.
Mediocre.
Interesting, whether you like it or not; Zelda recieved an average rating of 98%...
>
> Most people seem to love everything Nintendo produce - you don't see
> me saying "Jeez, anything Nintendo releases you love!"
> (which by the way - you do).
Also not true.
Go ahead and proove your wild accusations.
Eternal Darkness was so-so. To be honest, I played it for a weekend and have never touched it again, which is a very rare occurrence. It didn't really interest me very much, and I didn't like the whole design of the game very much. The only way it could be top of it's genre is if it had a genre to itself - there's no way this is better than ANY of the Res Evils.
Mario was alright, I struggled against my better judgement to get to the end and beat the final turtle.
Zelda so far has been disappointing, although it does have good features and I would rank it above the other two.
I wish you'd stop insinuating that I'm anti-Nintendo, because I'm not. I just happen to not like some of their first party games. Do you think I just make this stuff up for attention? To make people notice me? It's laughable. I say things I believe in, and nothing else. I don't just invent random things about games I haven't played - so far I've only ever brought up Mario and Zelda.
It's not as if I do it for every release, as you seem to think. Just because I'm not prepared to kiss the unwiped hole of Nintendo for a mediocre game, that doesn't make me the devil incarnate.
Most people seem to love everything Nintendo produce - you don't see me saying "Jeez, anything Nintendo releases you love!" (which by the way - you do).
I can have an opinion whether you like it or not, and I have as much right to mouth it as you have. My opinion is different but still as valid as (to quote the Goat) your mindless groupthink one-opinion-fits-all mentality.
Mario was alright, I struggled against my better judgement to get to the end and beat the final turtle.
Zelda so far has been disappointing, although it does have good features and I would rank it above the other two.
I wish you'd stop insinuating that I'm anti-Nintendo, because I'm not. I just happen to not like some of their first party games. Do you think I just make this stuff up for attention? To make people notice me? It's laughable. I say things I believe in, and nothing else. I don't just invent random things about games I haven't played - so far I've only ever brought up Mario and Zelda.
It's not as if I do it for every release, as you seem to think. Just because I'm not prepared to kiss the unwiped hole of Nintendo for a mediocre game, that doesn't make me the devil incarnate.
Most people seem to love everything Nintendo produce - you don't see me saying "Jeez, anything Nintendo releases you love!" (which by the way - you do).
I can have an opinion whether you like it or not, and I have as much right to mouth it as you have. My opinion is different but still as valid as (to quote the Goat) your mindless groupthink one-opinion-fits-all mentality.
Strangely, the Zelda series are the only Nintendo games I've never liked, I loved the old Metroid games, but Prime just doesn't do it for me.
I think I'm just anti-adventure games.
I think I'm just anti-adventure games.
So you don't like Eternal Darkness, Mario or Zelda?
I find it impossible to beleive that any one person could not like just one of those games, they are the elite of their genre!
Unless of course, they were just anti-Nintendo.
I find it impossible to beleive that any one person could not like just one of those games, they are the elite of their genre!
Unless of course, they were just anti-Nintendo.
Blank wrote:
> or even better - Eternal Darkness!
Heathen!
;^)
> or even better - Eternal Darkness!
Heathen!
;^)
Tiltawhirl wrote:
> How can you say it's not your thing?
>
> You fool, it's the best game ever. If you can't see that well.....you
> really are wasting good oxygen.
As I say - it's early days, and it really isn't everyone's thing. Give me a Resident Evil title any day.
> No ummmm as far as I can see no one's had a go at Blank and no one had
> a go at you.
Making up quotes? PLus the ever-eloquent "cat luver", with his brilliant post of "why badmouth zelda". Hell, because I don't think it's the dog's knees maybe?
Strafex wrote:
> NONE of those other games are as important as Zelda!
Not to you, but to me my Resident Evils and Monkey Ball saves are. I suppose Mario Sunshine could go, or even better - Eternal Darkness!
> How can you say it's not your thing?
>
> You fool, it's the best game ever. If you can't see that well.....you
> really are wasting good oxygen.
As I say - it's early days, and it really isn't everyone's thing. Give me a Resident Evil title any day.
> No ummmm as far as I can see no one's had a go at Blank and no one had
> a go at you.
Making up quotes? PLus the ever-eloquent "cat luver", with his brilliant post of "why badmouth zelda". Hell, because I don't think it's the dog's knees maybe?
Strafex wrote:
> NONE of those other games are as important as Zelda!
Not to you, but to me my Resident Evils and Monkey Ball saves are. I suppose Mario Sunshine could go, or even better - Eternal Darkness!
Ergg Tilta it's that kinda of attitude which we (neutrals get blamed for) We cannot enforce an opinion upon them but the fact is Zelda and Prime to the general public is pure class but there would be people who will not like it. It is their choice but they obviously cannot say the game is poorly made only because they are stuck on it.
Dock his wages!
How can you say it's not your thing?
You fool, it's the best game ever. If you can't see that well.....you really are wasting good oxygen.
*ahem*
No ummmm as far as I can see no one's had a go at Blank and no one had a go at you. We mearly said in Metroids case, it's crazy that some people will rubbish a classic game just because it does something new and has a different control set-up.
Well at least I did anyway, I can't account for some of the pasty toddlers that sneak in when we forget to lock the gate.
You fool, it's the best game ever. If you can't see that well.....you really are wasting good oxygen.
*ahem*
No ummmm as far as I can see no one's had a go at Blank and no one had a go at you. We mearly said in Metroids case, it's crazy that some people will rubbish a classic game just because it does something new and has a different control set-up.
Well at least I did anyway, I can't account for some of the pasty toddlers that sneak in when we forget to lock the gate.
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