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Mon 05/05/03 at 20:03
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Well, having never really played a Zelda game before, and certainly never having owned one, I decided to chance the Wind Waker.

Right now I'm surprised at how popular it is. The speech is really annoyingly slow, with one of the most infuriating noises ever recorded at the end of each sentence. Plus the first word of the sentence is usually said, for example "Hey" or "Hello", which is just...unnecessary.

The graphics? Great in a lot of places, in others it's merely passable. I really like some bits, especially the bird that captures Aryll at the start, but the far scenery is made out of cardboard.

The jumping kind of annoys me as well. There is no jump button, but he just jumps when he reaches the end of a platform. It removes the skill, but I guess that's not really the point of the game. That's what your going to say, right? Okay, I take that on board, but at one point I jumped off a ledge thinking it was the right place to go, only to find I'd already been here and couldn't get back up to the ledge. Surely this isn't the point either? A manual jump would've let me get onto a ladder to get back up there.

Now, I haven't got very far for two reasons - hardly any time on the game, no space on the memory card. So I can't comment on battles further into it, but the ones I have done have been incredibly easy. To the point of boredom. Even when you have to get a weapon from the opponent, all you do is stand there pressing block and wait for it to hit you. And it even misses a lot of the time.

Basically random musings here, but it seems very simplistic and Mario-ish most of the time. I'm probably the only person who will understand that, but basically it isn't a good thing. And I know most people won't have got this far because the moment they saw it was primarily an anti-Zelda thread they'll have furiously stuffed on their angry hats ready to type out an amazingly flawed and typo-riddled reply on why I'm wrong in under three seconds, and that's fine. If you want to do that, go ahead, but don't expect to get anywhere. It's all subjective, there is no proof, and a lot of people can't even tell the difference between fact and opinion.

Oh, and what's with those guard pigs who have 360 degree vision?
Wed 07/05/03 at 20:55
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Posts: 21,800
The visual style is exactly like a cartoon.

Stop whining, it's really becoming quite dull.

Saying you don't enjoy a game and explaining your reason is one thing. You're analysing and complaining about every single sodding thing.

"the stick doesn't gradually break"

Not too petty, are you telling me you wanna see single shards of the twig splinter into the air as gravity takes its toll or the game just wouldn't be good in your eyes?

It's a cartoon, the game's not serious, it's light-hearted.

Is it that hard to understand?
Wed 07/05/03 at 20:50
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"gsybe you!"
Posts: 18,825
Its okay to have gripes, but to rant about them the way you have done seems pretty superficial.

I am not convinced that it will be fantastic. I think it will be. You must think a similar/advanced version of a product that you like would be good etc. If that made sense. Anyway I just am looking forwards to it, and tend to ignore 'annoyances' such as little sounds and inability to read fast in game.
Wed 07/05/03 at 20:50
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"twothousandandtits"
Posts: 11,024
It's a cartoon? And here's me thinking I was actually moving the little fella around the screen all this time...
Wed 07/05/03 at 20:48
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Posts: 21,800
Blank wrote:
But you could tell
> that from the fact that it's a "dinkle-doo". That sound is
> almost annoying by definition.

It's been in every Zelda game, it's only left in really for retro value.

> Oh, and yeah, I really appreciate it when someone's shouting and the
> words suddenly appear in size 72, because I have no imagination of my
> own and capital letters just wouldn't emphasise it enough.

Stop being so petty.

> And another thing - the cartoon style. Not the graphics, but for
> example Link looks down and sees he's in a barrel. Okay, he suffered
> some form of temporary blindness AND numbness when they were putting
> him in there. And let's not forget deafness. The bit where the girl falls from the branch near the start? The branch goes from complete
> one second to completely snapped the next, with no transition period.
> The girl hangs in the air for a moment before falling. Why in God's
> name is this allowed?

WTF?

Have you never ever seen a cartoon in your life?

It's not trying to be funning Metal Gear Solid, it's a cartoon for fooks sake.

The game's obviously not gonna appeal to you so i'd just quit while you're ahead.
Wed 07/05/03 at 20:47
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"twothousandandtits"
Posts: 11,024
Sorry for wanting to read at my own speed. And sorry for being able to read faster than the text is displayed.


You shouldn't be leaning toward the idea that it will be fantastic, because that will alter your perception of the game when you actually get it.
Wed 07/05/03 at 20:43
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"gsybe you!"
Posts: 18,825
I know that.

Just:

A) I've never ever played a bad Nintendo game
B) I'm waiting to play Zelda to make a judgement - but yes, due to excitment and previous Zelda games, I am swinging towards the idea that it will be fantastic. Everbody does that with previous knowledge of a similar title etc.
C) Your gripes with the game sound pretty superficial


Anyhoo....
Wed 07/05/03 at 20:40
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"twothousandandtits"
Posts: 11,024
Treat them more specially? Look at them in rose tinted specs? Don't see them for what they are?

You should look at each game in exactly the same way - you shouldn't let a developer's reputation or past record influence your decision on a particular game. EVERY company is capable of making a crap game.
Wed 07/05/03 at 20:36
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"gsybe you!"
Posts: 18,825
No, the fact that your points seem to be based on an apparent lack of patience and on things that really have absoloutely no effect on the games main points.

And if when I play Zelda and I think its rubbish, I will say so. Just I usualy treat Nintendo games a little more specially, because they, er, are actually really good.
Wed 07/05/03 at 20:32
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"twothousandandtits"
Posts: 11,024
"Oh dear" to what exactly? The fact that I've had the nerve and sheer gall to even think of criticising the Holy Grail? Wake up.
Wed 07/05/03 at 20:26
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"gsybe you!"
Posts: 18,825
...........

Oh dear.

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