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another plane has just hit new york and upto four buildings are on fire
and its almost the same time as when it happened on the 11th
9am ish
The plane, an Airbus A300, was en route from New York to Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic. The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey said the plane was carrying 246 passengers and nine crew members.
An eyewitness told CNN, "I was in my kitchen ... and I saw the plane hit the house behind my house. It was so low, I was ducking almost, then huge fireballs and I jumped out of the ... window of my house.
"I ran right across the street ... it's unbelievable," she said, overcome by emotion. "It sounded like two planes. It was flying too low, and then it hit. It was like a bomb exploded."
Another eyewitness, Phyllis Paul, who lives near the crash site, said a "big, silvery piece of metal" fell behind her house before the plane went down.
"I was sitting having breakfast, and I heard the engines very loud," she said. "They were loud and low, and because of what happened September 11, it gave me a chill. ... I looked out of the window to see if I could see where it was."
Paul said she got her 10-year-old son and left the house.
"I didn't hear an explosion at first when I saw the metal fall. I heard an explosion about a minute and a half later," she said.
Asked if terrorism was suspected, Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Bill Schumann said, "All options are open at this time. We have very limited information."
The Pentagon said surveillance flights were going on in the area and nothing unusual had been spotted.
At least four houses were on fire, and a huge plume of smoke could be seen rising from the site. The New York Fire Department dispatched 44 firetrucks and 200 firefighters to the scene.
All three New York City-area airports -- Kennedy, LaGuardia and Newark -- closed after the crash, along with all the city's bridges and tunnels. Giuliani declared a Level One emergency, mobilizing all available police, fire and emergency personnel.
The crash affected both national and international air traffic. British Airways said it had two flights en route to New York at the time of the crash. A spokesman said those planes would be diverted. A Lufthansa flight to New York was grounded. In Los Angeles, airport officials said flights to the three New York-area airports had been grounded.
The United Nations went into a partial lockdown after the crash. No cars or pedestrians were allowed to enter the United Nations, which is holding the high-level General Assembly debate.
i'm on that site now
> Is there any more news on what caused it yet? Giuliani apparently said the
> plane's right engine 'fell off'.
I'm trying to get some info from CNN or somewhere, but they're all too busy.
As soon as I get any, I'll post it up.
And I mean Goaty vs Dognuts, not anything else....
The other day when they were talking about that new law when terrorists should be indefinately detained people were protesting that it was abuse of human rights, but people like al queda dont deserve rights, what about the rights of those killed in the wtc attacks, the terrorists didn't give a damn about them did they.
I want to apologise to you guys, I know I'm in a foul mood but it's nothing to do with any of you.
I'm just sick to death of this stupid, backwards race that I didn't ask to be entered into.
You guys are the good ones, it's everyone else that needs some learning.
I asked how she knew it was terrorist?
"Well I got an email"
"Yes, and how do they know it was terrorists?"
"Well..."
"Exactly. Now f*** off"
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Idiot gossip mongers that dont think to READ BEFORE THEY SPEAK.
Christ, these people make me sick.
Nobody here is like that, because you're using the net you already have the capability to check facts.
But there are some people that blindly spew something without bothering to check whether it's true or not.
Grow up, get a brain and shame on you for such behaviour.
Let's not start bandying about
> "Well if it was then Bin Laden" etc, because the only we know for sure
> right now is 200+ families have had their lives shattered today.
Good point.
When I heard about this, one of the first things that went through my head was "Aren't U.S security measures impressive?"
But from what I've read so far, it seems more like an accident.
Lets see what develops.
They've said that the American Aviation Society (or something like that) has said they don't know what caused the crash.
Here's hoping it was an accident as opposed to something else...
But Meka and Goaty are right. 200+ families have had their lives ruined, isn't Thanksgiving about now in the US? What a terrible time for this to happen...
How?
It always does around Christmas - I seem to remember it every year for at least the last 5. November/December - plane crash.
Still to come are a train accident and a coach leaving the road in poor conditions.
This is not a poor attempt at humour; something like this always happens in the run up to Christmas, particularly with aircraft.