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Thu 29/05/03 at 15:37
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Nintendo have made such bad errors of marketing in the past two years that in the next few months its going to hit them hard. The death of the Gamecube will be at the end of this year; after the swan song of Mario Kart. It won't last any longer and fans who believe what Nintendo said about a six year lifetime for the GameCube were merely cheating themselves.

Nintendo are the company I have enjoyed products from since I was three years old. I thank Nintendo for creating games which allowed me to escape from the years of personal crap I have had to deal with. I really support the GameCube and personally favour it from the surrounding rival hardware yet nobody but Nintendo can be blamed for allowing the GameCube to fail in the way it has done.

Even a killer game like Zelda desperately tried to push hardware sales but two weeks after its release the hardware sales went back to the low levels of March. Its desperation times for Nintendo as their shares are taking hits and profit margins are diving without a care.

There is no doubt in my mind. Nintendo are the God's of gaming. They however are NOT the God's of marketing and sales. The lack of software stock in shops in Europe, the lack of any marketing and the stubborn 'we have our fans' cries will no doubt summon the end of The Big N.

Yet where can I see them falling to from here? A place I never thought I'd see them. Nintendo won't leave gaming, if the worst games does really come to the worst they'll be brought out by a rival company. However that really is looking at death's door. I feel Nintendo will go the route of Sega, and move into software development only. I also feel that Sega could easily make a hardware comeback if they seriously planned everything to a tee. The GameBoy may be Nintendo's greatest asset, yet against the marketing strength of the vertically intergrated Sony I very much doubt Nintendo will 'bother' too much in competing strongly against it. Yes Nintendo will release another GameBoy but I fear the next will be the last 'great' one.

To be honest, I really couldn't care anymore. Gaming has taken a nose dive since the 16-bit era. Companies are developing for the idiots that walk the street thinking anything made by EA is going to be great. Microsoft have entered the market in a bid again to yet dominate another part of the world. I am personally looking forward to the Microsoft film studios opening up or when Microsoft actually buy the American whitehouse.

In Europe we have always been treated like dirt in the gaming world. What Nintendo didn't realise is that although we aren't the biggest gaming nation and we don't buy the most. We are probably the most significant to the effects elsewhere. Oh? I hear that Holland have sold out of Gamecubes and that Germany love the GameCube too. Yet thats like buying Old Kent Road when playing monopoly and thinking you've won.

Sadly. Although I hate to say it, its going to take a huge amount of balls from Nintendo to pull themselves up from this dying defeat. Balls which I don't think they have.

I'll miss you when your gone Big N.
I'll still have my memories.
Its your own fault you stupid idiots.
Thu 29/05/03 at 23:59
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*scratches head*

Maybe not.
Fri 30/05/03 at 08:45
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People don't egt it. Nintendo are currently making more money thn they ever have. The gameing market has expanded so much over the last decade. Although Sony are selling the most Nintendo is still making alot of money. And will continue to make probucts as long as they are earning money. Also the Gamecube is beating the X-Box, a fact even accepted by Sony, and you don't see the X-Box being shouted at.
Fri 30/05/03 at 09:35
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What amazes me is that the only negative reports indicate that some analyst decided Nintendo should be making more money than they are.

They're still making more money than I'll ever see in a lifetime, just not as much as an analyst predicted.

In Japan and the US, Nintendo have nothing to worry about - they just need to improve on European relations, create a wider range of games (yes, that does mean add a new development team to make crap, or PS2 material) and re-educate the fanboys.
Fri 30/05/03 at 10:51
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Mafia is a hundred times better than any GTA game.
It's in my top ten of all time.
Although I'm sure the GC coversion will be messed up and you'll all say it's rubbish.
Fri 30/05/03 at 11:40
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I haven't been disappointed with any PC to Xbox game conversions so far and in fact I would rate the ones I have played better than their PC counter parts. Hopefully Mafia will be ported to the Xbox successfully (as well as the GameCube) but as you may know the GC hasn't had that success rate with PC conversion so far. Take Ghost Recon for instance...
Fri 30/05/03 at 12:33
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What about AOE?
Fri 30/05/03 at 13:24
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Age of Empires isn't on X-Box is it?
Fri 30/05/03 at 13:38
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Nintendo do 'wait and see' very well. They have the money, they have the time, they have the originality and they have the gameplay.

Since the N64 Nintendo's strategy has changed. They watch their user base carefully. When the time is right we shall see great things from them. Pokemon came our of nowhere, Goldeneye came out of nowhere, Monkeyball came out of nowhere. All Nintendo exclusives.

Next big thing? Nintendo already have it. The next big thing is Nintendo.
Fri 30/05/03 at 13:43
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Tony_Blair wrote:
> What about AOE?

Its not even on the Xbox. The PS2 managed to ruin that one.
Fri 30/05/03 at 16:36
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Sigh... since when was the Gamecube failing? Not selling hot doesn't mean its failing. Just because Dr. Pepper doesn't sell as well as Coca Cola doesn't mean Dr. Pepper isn't making money and selling well.

Of course Iwati declaring that the next war will see new franchises, new audience... new nintendo. Which is a problem... it makes me realize this console is a mere changing point, the bridge between the old Nintendo and the new one. Which is a pity.

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