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Thu 29/05/03 at 15:37
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Nintendo have made such bad errors of marketing in the past two years that in the next few months its going to hit them hard. The death of the Gamecube will be at the end of this year; after the swan song of Mario Kart. It won't last any longer and fans who believe what Nintendo said about a six year lifetime for the GameCube were merely cheating themselves.

Nintendo are the company I have enjoyed products from since I was three years old. I thank Nintendo for creating games which allowed me to escape from the years of personal crap I have had to deal with. I really support the GameCube and personally favour it from the surrounding rival hardware yet nobody but Nintendo can be blamed for allowing the GameCube to fail in the way it has done.

Even a killer game like Zelda desperately tried to push hardware sales but two weeks after its release the hardware sales went back to the low levels of March. Its desperation times for Nintendo as their shares are taking hits and profit margins are diving without a care.

There is no doubt in my mind. Nintendo are the God's of gaming. They however are NOT the God's of marketing and sales. The lack of software stock in shops in Europe, the lack of any marketing and the stubborn 'we have our fans' cries will no doubt summon the end of The Big N.

Yet where can I see them falling to from here? A place I never thought I'd see them. Nintendo won't leave gaming, if the worst games does really come to the worst they'll be brought out by a rival company. However that really is looking at death's door. I feel Nintendo will go the route of Sega, and move into software development only. I also feel that Sega could easily make a hardware comeback if they seriously planned everything to a tee. The GameBoy may be Nintendo's greatest asset, yet against the marketing strength of the vertically intergrated Sony I very much doubt Nintendo will 'bother' too much in competing strongly against it. Yes Nintendo will release another GameBoy but I fear the next will be the last 'great' one.

To be honest, I really couldn't care anymore. Gaming has taken a nose dive since the 16-bit era. Companies are developing for the idiots that walk the street thinking anything made by EA is going to be great. Microsoft have entered the market in a bid again to yet dominate another part of the world. I am personally looking forward to the Microsoft film studios opening up or when Microsoft actually buy the American whitehouse.

In Europe we have always been treated like dirt in the gaming world. What Nintendo didn't realise is that although we aren't the biggest gaming nation and we don't buy the most. We are probably the most significant to the effects elsewhere. Oh? I hear that Holland have sold out of Gamecubes and that Germany love the GameCube too. Yet thats like buying Old Kent Road when playing monopoly and thinking you've won.

Sadly. Although I hate to say it, its going to take a huge amount of balls from Nintendo to pull themselves up from this dying defeat. Balls which I don't think they have.

I'll miss you when your gone Big N.
I'll still have my memories.
Its your own fault you stupid idiots.
Thu 29/05/03 at 15:37
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"everyone says it"
Posts: 14,738
Nintendo have made such bad errors of marketing in the past two years that in the next few months its going to hit them hard. The death of the Gamecube will be at the end of this year; after the swan song of Mario Kart. It won't last any longer and fans who believe what Nintendo said about a six year lifetime for the GameCube were merely cheating themselves.

Nintendo are the company I have enjoyed products from since I was three years old. I thank Nintendo for creating games which allowed me to escape from the years of personal crap I have had to deal with. I really support the GameCube and personally favour it from the surrounding rival hardware yet nobody but Nintendo can be blamed for allowing the GameCube to fail in the way it has done.

Even a killer game like Zelda desperately tried to push hardware sales but two weeks after its release the hardware sales went back to the low levels of March. Its desperation times for Nintendo as their shares are taking hits and profit margins are diving without a care.

There is no doubt in my mind. Nintendo are the God's of gaming. They however are NOT the God's of marketing and sales. The lack of software stock in shops in Europe, the lack of any marketing and the stubborn 'we have our fans' cries will no doubt summon the end of The Big N.

Yet where can I see them falling to from here? A place I never thought I'd see them. Nintendo won't leave gaming, if the worst games does really come to the worst they'll be brought out by a rival company. However that really is looking at death's door. I feel Nintendo will go the route of Sega, and move into software development only. I also feel that Sega could easily make a hardware comeback if they seriously planned everything to a tee. The GameBoy may be Nintendo's greatest asset, yet against the marketing strength of the vertically intergrated Sony I very much doubt Nintendo will 'bother' too much in competing strongly against it. Yes Nintendo will release another GameBoy but I fear the next will be the last 'great' one.

To be honest, I really couldn't care anymore. Gaming has taken a nose dive since the 16-bit era. Companies are developing for the idiots that walk the street thinking anything made by EA is going to be great. Microsoft have entered the market in a bid again to yet dominate another part of the world. I am personally looking forward to the Microsoft film studios opening up or when Microsoft actually buy the American whitehouse.

In Europe we have always been treated like dirt in the gaming world. What Nintendo didn't realise is that although we aren't the biggest gaming nation and we don't buy the most. We are probably the most significant to the effects elsewhere. Oh? I hear that Holland have sold out of Gamecubes and that Germany love the GameCube too. Yet thats like buying Old Kent Road when playing monopoly and thinking you've won.

Sadly. Although I hate to say it, its going to take a huge amount of balls from Nintendo to pull themselves up from this dying defeat. Balls which I don't think they have.

I'll miss you when your gone Big N.
I'll still have my memories.
Its your own fault you stupid idiots.
Thu 29/05/03 at 15:43
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"aka memo aaka gayby"
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Send that to them.
Thu 29/05/03 at 15:49
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"One More Chance"
Posts: 6,887
Your last line sums it all up.
Thu 29/05/03 at 15:58
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"keep your receipt"
Posts: 990
Hmmm that was the biggest pile of crap I've read in a long time. I want my 40 seconds back.
Thu 29/05/03 at 15:58
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Posts: 21,800
Stop being so bloody negative.

They'll drop the price of Cube at Xmas when all the big releases are coming out. They'll absoloutly flood the place with Nintendo advert and everything will be happy again.

Rogue Leader 3
Mario Kart
Final Fantasy CC
F-Zero
Metal Gear Solid : Twin Snakes

All 5 are massive system shifters and all 5 are coming out at the same time near Xmas.

Along with the other legions of amazing games coming out at Xmas, Nintendo can't fail.
Thu 29/05/03 at 15:59
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"previously phuzzy."
Posts: 3,487
I can see where er-no is coming from, it is a worrying time.

I just want the Big N to stop thinking that the good ol' way will always make them last it through, because, putting it simply, it won't.

Though death by end of year? I seriously doubt it.
Thu 29/05/03 at 16:03
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"everyone says it"
Posts: 14,738
Tiltawhirl, if Zelda and Metroid cannot sell it, those five mentioned won't shift systems in the way you imagine.

Its not even anything to do with that. From those you mentioned Star Wars will sell the most simply because its Star Wars. Gamers don't look for 'amazing' games anymore, they simply look for what they have been force fed.

Another factor that makes me sure of my predictions (although I want them to be wrong) is the fact that highstreet shops aren't bothered about the GameCube. Shelve space is disappearing and soon adverts won't make any influence because the gamer will walk into the shop. See one shelve of GC stuff and laugh. Then go and buy an Xbox because it has Halo.
Thu 29/05/03 at 16:04
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"everyone says it"
Posts: 14,738
Mess wrote:
> Hmmm that was the biggest pile of crap I've read in a long time. I
> want my 40 seconds back.

Shut the hell up you idiot. If you don't have anything constructive to say ruck off.
Thu 29/05/03 at 16:08
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Posts: 15,681
The way I see it is like this:

Nintendo didn't do too well with the N64. That's fair to say.

Nintendo are doing one hell of a lot better with the GameCube.

Nuff said.

The shops, ever since the Playstation, have had their reservations of other systems - in all the shops in Cardiff, Sony take up a huge amount of the shop space whereas GameCube and Xbox take roughly the same each - as well as the Game Boy Advance getting its own fair sized section.
Thu 29/05/03 at 16:10
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Posts: 21,800
Final Fantasy games and Metal Gear Solid games sell like hot cakes, people will see exclusive games like these on Cube and it will make them notice the console.

Tons of casual gamers i've spoken too have said they'd get a Gamecube for Mario Kart, it's a recognized brand and people know that it rules in multiplayer.

With the amount of top class games coming out at xmas, peope won't be able to ignore the Cube.

Even if it fails in the UK. France, Germany and quite a few other large European countries love Cube and it's outsellling Xbox by quite a way.

The fact that sales shot up like they did when Dixons dropped the price a few months back, shows that people are still intrested in Nintendo.

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