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"Life after Death"

Do you believe in life after death?. Following being diagnosed with cancer my life was put on stop, my world changed instantly. I and my family were in shock but I was not mad or asked why me?. I was however mad at the system that allowed me to get in this situation because there was history in my case that appeared not to mean a thing. I then had experiences that only convinced me that there are stranger things in heaven than on earth. Not a stranger to mystical events in the past I started a mission to work with cancer

Geffdof wrote:
> People died trying
> to spread the gospel message so that makes me think they believed
> it themselves and its not some elaborate story and they were
> witnesses to Jesus' life

Anyone is welcome to correct me here but i'm sure i read that the bible wasn't written until about 800AD. If thats the case then there is an obvious problem with it being written by witnesses.
The whole thing strikes me as chinese whispers and nothing more.

I'll correct you. It was written much earlier than that. The council of Nicea met in 300 AD to make the Nicean creed which is based on the bible and it had already been around for hundreds of years. Im not an historian so I dont know how they date stuff like this, but historical records etc show that the bible was written not too long after Jesus' death. Im talking about 30-40 years here. Maybe less maybe more, Im not totally sure. Anyway, it was written as a first hand account. The Koran on the other hand WAS written after 600AD. Its possible you are thinking of that.

The funniest scam I ever pulled of was when I sold a bunch of Christians in my school fake bibles. Good times.

Fake bibles? What were they?

Geffdof wrote:
> I'll correct you. It was written much earlier than that. The
> council of Nicea met in 300 AD to make the Nicean creed which is
> based on the bible and it had already been around for hundreds of
> years. Im not an historian so I dont know how they date stuff
> like this, but historical records etc show that the bible was
> written not too long after Jesus' death. Im talking about 30-40
> years here. Maybe less maybe more, Im not totally sure. Anyway,
> it was written as a first hand account. The Koran on the other
> hand WAS written after 600AD. Its possible you are thinking of
> that.

Historical records? What records are these? I mean why is there such debate about the origins of the gospels if records exist?

Geffdof wrote:
> Fake bibles? What were they?

Laser printed covers with instuctions for floppys inside!

At least they now know God's views on people lacking libido.

Garin wrote:
> Geffdof wrote:
> I'll correct you. It was written much earlier than that. The
> council of Nicea met in 300 AD to make the Nicean creed which
> is
> based on the bible and it had already been around for hundreds
> of
> years. Im not an historian so I dont know how they date stuff
> like this, but historical records etc show that the bible was
> written not too long after Jesus' death. Im talking about 30-40
> years here. Maybe less maybe more, Im not totally sure. Anyway,
> it was written as a first hand account. The Koran on the other
> hand WAS written after 600AD. Its possible you are thinking of
> that.
>
> Historical records? What records are these? I mean why is
> there such debate about the origins of the gospels if records
> exist?


There is no debate on the origin of the Gospels. The only debate is about gospels that arent in the bible and possibly should be.

Geffdof wrote:
> There is no debate on the origin of the Gospels. The only debate
> is about gospels that arent in the bible and possibly should be.

Err..yes there is and quite alot of it. However I dont find it surprising you're in total denial of this. They do not stand up to historical analysis and never have. If they did, dont you think the church would be on much firmer ground than it is?

They do stand up to historical analysis. Its accepted by historians that the gospels were an eye witness account of Jesus' life. They were written just after the time of Jesus by people who knew him.
That's a widely accepted fact. The only debate is if they are true or not i.e. is Jesus the Messiah or just a regular bloke.

As I said, total denial. :)

Theres no such thing as the "Synoptic Problem" no doubt.