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"Life after Death"

Do you believe in life after death?. Following being diagnosed with cancer my life was put on stop, my world changed instantly. I and my family were in shock but I was not mad or asked why me?. I was however mad at the system that allowed me to get in this situation because there was history in my case that appeared not to mean a thing. I then had experiences that only convinced me that there are stranger things in heaven than on earth. Not a stranger to mystical events in the past I started a mission to work with cancer

merlinthewizard wrote:
> If I remember my days in school physics our teacher said energy
> cannot be created nor destroyed. I understand it is transferred
> from one source to another but never really followed the logic.

You're talking about the conservation of energy.

> If this is true what happens to the energy within our bodies
> when we die.

Well conservation of energy says something has to happen to it. Residual energy in the body dissipates as heat. This has been observed and documented. Theres no mystery to it and/or any requirement for theories about the energy transforming into spirits, ghosts or aliens. :)

> I believe it is transferred into another form and
> that is the problem that most scientists cannot accept.

Science isnt going to accept anything for which there is no evidence or reasonable premise. If they did otherwise it wouldnt be science would it.

merlinthewizard wrote:
> If I remember my days in school physics our teacher said energy
> cannot be created nor destroyed. I understand it is transferred
> from one source to another but never really followed the logic.
> If this is true what happens to the energy within our bodies
> when we die. I believe it is transferred into another form and
> that is the problem that most scientists cannot accept.

It dissipates into heat, static electricity and food (or energy) for the worms.

If I remember my days in school physics our teacher said energy cannot be created nor destroyed. I understand it is transferred from one source to another but never really followed the logic. If this is true what happens to the energy within our bodies when we die. I believe it is transferred into another form and that is the problem that most scientists cannot accept.

Logic dictates that when I finally die, ALL electrical activity within my body's cells will simply stop, thus rendering my corpse a slowly decaying mass of something that was once alive.

When a battery is dead it is irreversably dead!
When a circuit is switched off it's completely dead!
When a life-form dies all electro-chemical activity ceases!

My conclusion: When ya dead, ya dead! everything else remains inconclusive unsubstanciated hearsay.

It's a small group. :)

What ever it takes to get folk motivated but I must admit I have failed. Just the same few contributors and we have gone off at a tangent. It’s been an interesting thread but little real progress. I have found only people who are in a life threatening situation do look beyond this materialist world and what we are doing to each other and nature. In the end the battle between good and evil is all that matters to most any alternative is incomprehensible.

It read like a wikipedia entry but I couldnt be bothered to check. Wikipedia is crap. It ok for un-important stuff such as information on a band. The articles being written by anyone who want to write them makes them very dubious and untrustworthy, especially for specialist topics.

I wouldnt worry about it, Geffdof. Merlin's entire post is just a quote from wikipedia so not alot to discuss I think. :)

I wish wikipedia would shutdown, its a menace on the internet.

Either I misunderstood you or you misunderstand what Jews and Christians think "the literal word of God" means. I'll try and explain it briefly.

Ironically I'm going to talk about the Koran to illustrate this point. The Koran was written by Mohamed who wrote down word for word a dictated message that was supposed to be from God, as told to him by an angel. Someone came to him and told him exactly what to write.

The old testament books/torah was written by Moses but inspired by God. Certain parts are actual quotation from God but the whole thing is not a dictated piece. God or an angel or whoever didnt come to Moses and say "Ok Moses, get a pen and write this..." then dictate the whole thing to him, word for word. Nobody came to him, it was written by a man but inspired by God.

Geffdor said "No they were not (told to him directly by God). Moses didn't hear an audible voice of God telling him what to write in the same way the writers of the new testament gospels didn't either. Its not a direct transcript of what God said".

The Torah is the first five books of the Tanakh or Hebrew Bible, and of the Old Testament of the Christian Bible. The five books, their names and pronunciations

Genesis (Bereshit: "In the beginning...")
Exodus (Shemot: "Names")
Leviticus (Vayyiqra: "And he called...")
Numbers (Bammidbar: "In the desert...")
Deuteronomy (Devarim: "Words", or "Discourses")

Written in Hebrew, the oldest Jewish language, the Torah is the central and most important document of Judaism revered by Jews through the ages, and very important to Christians. It is traditionally accepted as the literal word of God as told to Moses. For many, it is neither exactly history, nor theology, nor legal and ritual guide, but something beyond all three. It is the primary guide to the relationship between God and man, and the whole meaning and purpose of that relationship, a living document that unfolds over generations and millennia.

Another one for Alfonse quote "I love how every thread becomes Gefdoff vs World."

Lets go for the Qur'ân,Koran,or Al-Quran the central religious text of Islam, and make it realy interesting.