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Not seen anyone mention it and its out today, is anyone bothering? it looks ok but i'm still not 100% sure, any thoughts would be nice, thanks!
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Yeah I know what you mean - I had that belt hanging problem too. Ended up hanging there for like 2 minutes - in the end I kept my title cause the match ended as a draw with me hanging there. ;-))
Same goes for putting ladders and tables in the ring. I tried so many ways to get them in the ring with no result - in the end I had to wait for my opponent to put it in the ring for me, then smash his face in.
As for the belt wearing, thing is with putting them on from the create a wrestler area is that you tend to wear it constantly - I just want to carry around on me then take it off for matches. Helps to show your status and stuff. As far as this game goes, it doesn't even mention that you're the champ as you make your way to the ring.
But then theres so much left out of this - the only reason I'm keeping it right now is cause I have 2 friends that have it so we can have a laugh in the multiplayer season. Another guy I know at my workplace got it and took it back the next day. Can't blame him for doing so as its hard to defend the game as being any real good.
For all the things I've said I hate it for though, I'll mention a few things that I like about it, just so other people have the full view of it in my opinion.
The graphics are really nice, a lot crisper than other wrestling games. Some might also back me up on this when I say that in most wrestling games, the created wrestlers you put out always look of cack quality when compared to the detail in face, etc to the superstars of the game. In this game, your created wrestlers tend to look just as good as the proper wrestlers.
Another excellent idea is the way you can really mess around with your entrance (again for created wrestlers). In games like Smackdown, you either steal an existing wrestlers entrance and music, or you can select one of the crappy invented ones the game offers. In RAW 2 however, you get more to mess around with. Even if you steal a wrestlers entrance, you can really modify it with various lighting effects, pyro effects, fog, etc. Plus of course you can use your own soundtracks from the hard drive. I've actually spent a lot of time tinkering with my er, entrance.
The chance to interupt a wrestlers entrance and beat the hell outta them - and of course stuff like surprise attacks on people.
Now, when it comes to the season mode, there are a few good points, but theres also bad stuff as well. I managed to get Molly as my manager and eventually had her playing a part in some of my matches - theres even moments where my character has dates - but theres always something poxy to stop me scoring and that something is always some crap wrestler who decides to beat on me for no real reason !
Also, I'm well into the season mode now, I'm the champ and my popularity is at 100 - and yet, I'm still harrassed by bottom of the barrel, crappy wrestlers like Crash, Orten and Norwinski. These are the smelly losers that keep jumping me while I'm trying to score with Molly and Trish. I'm the champ, I've wiped the floor with Stone Cold, The Rock, Goldberg - you name them, I've beaten them.
But then watch how the "mighty" Crash storms into a room I've taken a girl into and beats me, leaving me slumped against a wall. Yes, it looks as stupid as it sounds.
Of course as soon as I have these skanks in the ring, I beat them to the point where they're screaming like stuck pigs. By now I should really be getting some decent rivals.
Then of course comes the real lack of story. Its hard to even feel too involved as theres no talking or text to read. You just see a character on screen moving their lips and stuff, or someone will attack you, etc. Its a game that shows potential as if its the first of a series. If this was the first game rather than the second, then you could forgive a lot of stuff wrong with it and even hold some enthusiasm for a sequel. But as it stands, this IS the sequel and they haven't done a lot to build on the first game. Its a major rush job and its disappointing to see this from a company that have a really good reputation for their wrestling games. Its pretty much as though they don't give a toss about XBox consumers and have just shoved the WWE name on the shelf to make a quick bit of cash.
Cheers guys, thanks.
Same goes for putting ladders and tables in the ring. I tried so many ways to get them in the ring with no result - in the end I had to wait for my opponent to put it in the ring for me, then smash his face in.
As for the belt wearing, thing is with putting them on from the create a wrestler area is that you tend to wear it constantly - I just want to carry around on me then take it off for matches. Helps to show your status and stuff. As far as this game goes, it doesn't even mention that you're the champ as you make your way to the ring.
But then theres so much left out of this - the only reason I'm keeping it right now is cause I have 2 friends that have it so we can have a laugh in the multiplayer season. Another guy I know at my workplace got it and took it back the next day. Can't blame him for doing so as its hard to defend the game as being any real good.
For all the things I've said I hate it for though, I'll mention a few things that I like about it, just so other people have the full view of it in my opinion.
The graphics are really nice, a lot crisper than other wrestling games. Some might also back me up on this when I say that in most wrestling games, the created wrestlers you put out always look of cack quality when compared to the detail in face, etc to the superstars of the game. In this game, your created wrestlers tend to look just as good as the proper wrestlers.
Another excellent idea is the way you can really mess around with your entrance (again for created wrestlers). In games like Smackdown, you either steal an existing wrestlers entrance and music, or you can select one of the crappy invented ones the game offers. In RAW 2 however, you get more to mess around with. Even if you steal a wrestlers entrance, you can really modify it with various lighting effects, pyro effects, fog, etc. Plus of course you can use your own soundtracks from the hard drive. I've actually spent a lot of time tinkering with my er, entrance.
The chance to interupt a wrestlers entrance and beat the hell outta them - and of course stuff like surprise attacks on people.
Now, when it comes to the season mode, there are a few good points, but theres also bad stuff as well. I managed to get Molly as my manager and eventually had her playing a part in some of my matches - theres even moments where my character has dates - but theres always something poxy to stop me scoring and that something is always some crap wrestler who decides to beat on me for no real reason !
Also, I'm well into the season mode now, I'm the champ and my popularity is at 100 - and yet, I'm still harrassed by bottom of the barrel, crappy wrestlers like Crash, Orten and Norwinski. These are the smelly losers that keep jumping me while I'm trying to score with Molly and Trish. I'm the champ, I've wiped the floor with Stone Cold, The Rock, Goldberg - you name them, I've beaten them.
But then watch how the "mighty" Crash storms into a room I've taken a girl into and beats me, leaving me slumped against a wall. Yes, it looks as stupid as it sounds.
Of course as soon as I have these skanks in the ring, I beat them to the point where they're screaming like stuck pigs. By now I should really be getting some decent rivals.
Then of course comes the real lack of story. Its hard to even feel too involved as theres no talking or text to read. You just see a character on screen moving their lips and stuff, or someone will attack you, etc. Its a game that shows potential as if its the first of a series. If this was the first game rather than the second, then you could forgive a lot of stuff wrong with it and even hold some enthusiasm for a sequel. But as it stands, this IS the sequel and they haven't done a lot to build on the first game. Its a major rush job and its disappointing to see this from a company that have a really good reputation for their wrestling games. Its pretty much as though they don't give a toss about XBox consumers and have just shoved the WWE name on the shelf to make a quick bit of cash.
Cheers guys, thanks.
Sav, bloody hurry up and sell RAW 2 before I kick your ass!
Oh and I like the vs screen - just like they do on TV. cool.
Sav, have I got you down properly on my LIVE List thingy?
Have you sent a request to me ? If I'm already supposed to be on your list then I'm probably on there ok - if you made a spelling mistake then you would have been told that the name doesn't exist. ;-)
Wrong list :-P
Look at the topic called 'XBox LIVE Gamertags - Definaive List'.
:-D
Look at the topic called 'XBox LIVE Gamertags - Definaive List'.
:-D
Savatt78 wrote:
>
I'm the champ and my
> popularity is at 100 - and yet, I'm still harrassed by bottom of the
> barrel, crappy wrestlers like Crash, Orten and Norwinski.
Try to get some different enemies by doing surprise attacks on the better wrestlers, or failing that, change your rivals in the create-a-wrestler mode.
But as it stands, this IS the sequel and
> they haven't done a lot to build on the first game. Its a major rush
> job and its disappointing to see this from a company that have a
> really good reputation for their wrestling games. Its pretty much as
> though they don't give a toss about XBox consumers and have just
> shoved the WWE name on the shelf to make a quick bit of cash.
> Cheers guys, thanks.
I always thought that was the Smackdown licence. :S
As sequels go this is good, very good. Plenty of matches, plenty of customisation, more moves than No Mercy, good collision detection (although they've toned it down so you don't hit your team-mates quite as much as in the original RAW or get your moves stopped mid-move). I like the career mode but stories would be a nice option, however if they the stories like the ones in No Mercy it wouldn't take long to go through all the possible outcomes - I actually prefer the season mode as it is now.
I wouldn't call this game a 'rush job' at all there's plenty of new things and expanded modes, they've taken away the stamina meter (which works considering the route they've taken), improved the controls (Now 'pin', 'showoff/taunt' and 'pick up weapon' are all assigned different buttons and not the same one), re-made the items system, introduced more characters, put in a lot of new matches, expanded the CAW mode, put in all the belts and introduced a fun system of stuff to do backstage.
Oh and one small thing: The career mode is also 4 player!!
So it's hardly a 'rush job' or a shoddy use of the licence/ If you want to see examples of that may I refer you to the god-awful copies of Smackdown 1 and 2.
>
I'm the champ and my
> popularity is at 100 - and yet, I'm still harrassed by bottom of the
> barrel, crappy wrestlers like Crash, Orten and Norwinski.
Try to get some different enemies by doing surprise attacks on the better wrestlers, or failing that, change your rivals in the create-a-wrestler mode.
But as it stands, this IS the sequel and
> they haven't done a lot to build on the first game. Its a major rush
> job and its disappointing to see this from a company that have a
> really good reputation for their wrestling games. Its pretty much as
> though they don't give a toss about XBox consumers and have just
> shoved the WWE name on the shelf to make a quick bit of cash.
> Cheers guys, thanks.
I always thought that was the Smackdown licence. :S
As sequels go this is good, very good. Plenty of matches, plenty of customisation, more moves than No Mercy, good collision detection (although they've toned it down so you don't hit your team-mates quite as much as in the original RAW or get your moves stopped mid-move). I like the career mode but stories would be a nice option, however if they the stories like the ones in No Mercy it wouldn't take long to go through all the possible outcomes - I actually prefer the season mode as it is now.
I wouldn't call this game a 'rush job' at all there's plenty of new things and expanded modes, they've taken away the stamina meter (which works considering the route they've taken), improved the controls (Now 'pin', 'showoff/taunt' and 'pick up weapon' are all assigned different buttons and not the same one), re-made the items system, introduced more characters, put in a lot of new matches, expanded the CAW mode, put in all the belts and introduced a fun system of stuff to do backstage.
Oh and one small thing: The career mode is also 4 player!!
So it's hardly a 'rush job' or a shoddy use of the licence/ If you want to see examples of that may I refer you to the god-awful copies of Smackdown 1 and 2.
When the CPU opponents go into 'repetitive pinning mode' every couple of matches that's frustrating but it is sweet to finally get up and explode a barrage of moves at them!
I just won King of the Ring which was quite tough, on the next day I managed to totally beat my enemies through surprise attacks so on the next match I had after that day they came in an helped during a tag team match.
So there's me (Test) and Billy Kidman and I've tagged Kidman in so he's hammering the Rock and incomes Steiner and Scott Dudley to give us extra help. Six people (including Rock's team partner, whose name I've forgotten) all having a massive brawl! I'm expecting my enemies to pounce on Kidman but they're helping me out instead! So I think that the match'll end in DQ and the Rock + other guy'll win but they don't.
Then it comes up with a little cut scene showing Stacey Kiebler (who's on my side) chatting to Bubba Ray (enemy) and it comes up with a caption of 'respect'!
So it looks like my enemies have decided it's not worth taking me on!
Gob-smackingly crazy! :D
It's gonna be fun seeing what happens next.
Also I've noticed it keeps rivalries going which aren't in your enemies list but whom you go after every so often anyway. This is very cool and adds to the diversity.
I just won King of the Ring which was quite tough, on the next day I managed to totally beat my enemies through surprise attacks so on the next match I had after that day they came in an helped during a tag team match.
So there's me (Test) and Billy Kidman and I've tagged Kidman in so he's hammering the Rock and incomes Steiner and Scott Dudley to give us extra help. Six people (including Rock's team partner, whose name I've forgotten) all having a massive brawl! I'm expecting my enemies to pounce on Kidman but they're helping me out instead! So I think that the match'll end in DQ and the Rock + other guy'll win but they don't.
Then it comes up with a little cut scene showing Stacey Kiebler (who's on my side) chatting to Bubba Ray (enemy) and it comes up with a caption of 'respect'!
So it looks like my enemies have decided it's not worth taking me on!
Gob-smackingly crazy! :D
It's gonna be fun seeing what happens next.
Also I've noticed it keeps rivalries going which aren't in your enemies list but whom you go after every so often anyway. This is very cool and adds to the diversity.
i think that pinning think happened to me. made me swear at Rock (me) and the computer player.
i'm doing the Season and i've got The King Of The Ring belt and the WWE Champion belt. can someone people tell me how to put opjects in the ring? and also, how do you climb the cage? i pressed the black button to get onto the cage, but then when i pushed up to climb up he like climbed down..?
...on the seson i had this...interesting match to look forward to but we had a kinda power cut and that makes the matches go random whatever. it was me and Hulk Holgan vs Kane and Undertaker in a table match. that would of been cool. i'll do it after season's over..
i'm doing the Season and i've got The King Of The Ring belt and the WWE Champion belt. can someone people tell me how to put opjects in the ring? and also, how do you climb the cage? i pressed the black button to get onto the cage, but then when i pushed up to climb up he like climbed down..?
...on the seson i had this...interesting match to look forward to but we had a kinda power cut and that makes the matches go random whatever. it was me and Hulk Holgan vs Kane and Undertaker in a table match. that would of been cool. i'll do it after season's over..
SNAP! :D
I also won King of the Ring and I just got the WWE Belt.
The pinning problem happened in two matches when I started but I've played 7 and a half hours of it in the last 10 hours and the pinning problem only came up in 3 matches so I can't complain. I did get about 15 pin-attempts in a row from Kurt Angle when doing the final match of King of the Ring!
I haven't had a cage match yet so I can't help you there. I also want to know how to get objects into the ring. I've managed to throw a broken piece of chair at an opponent who was in the ring when I was out of it but that's all I've managed.
Oh and another thing in the manual it says the black button can be used to 'go off site' does this mean I can go onto the stage area or even backstage during a match? Or does it mean something else? I haven't worked out exactly what the meant by it. I think I'll try an exhibition match to see.
My enemies are still doing strange 'interference' in matches. Myself (Test) and Kidman were fighting some of my enemies, Bubba and D-Von dudley, in a tag match. Steiner who had previously helped them interfere in my last tag match ran in and started attacking the Dudleys! Then my own tag team partner Kidman loses it and starts beating me up followed by Scott Dudley running in and helping Steiner beat up his brothers! Everyone except Kidman is on my enemies list but the only one to attack me in the chaos was my own team mate!
Anyway, it all ended with us all engaged in a 6 man fight outside the ring, I just managed to roll back into the ring on the '8' of the 10 count and managed to win the match that way.
Crazy stuff.
So I decided to clean house. I complained, set traps for and casually beat up Kidman over a couple of events and he got the message and pushed off, then I realised I still had Steven Richards as someone I'd somehow befriended I set about befriending some decent wrestlers. Now my wrestler is friends with The Undertaker, Stone Cold and Rhyno - so I know I've got some decent talent to watch my back.
I haven't managed to get a manager yet but I've only had a few tries, I think I'll cheer up The Undertaker some more and get him to be my manager.
The strategy in this game is very impressive. It's great weighing up if it's worth using some energy to setup at trap for your next opponent and if you can get in some cheap shots at your rivals and get your energy back before your match.
Really good stuff.
I also won King of the Ring and I just got the WWE Belt.
The pinning problem happened in two matches when I started but I've played 7 and a half hours of it in the last 10 hours and the pinning problem only came up in 3 matches so I can't complain. I did get about 15 pin-attempts in a row from Kurt Angle when doing the final match of King of the Ring!
I haven't had a cage match yet so I can't help you there. I also want to know how to get objects into the ring. I've managed to throw a broken piece of chair at an opponent who was in the ring when I was out of it but that's all I've managed.
Oh and another thing in the manual it says the black button can be used to 'go off site' does this mean I can go onto the stage area or even backstage during a match? Or does it mean something else? I haven't worked out exactly what the meant by it. I think I'll try an exhibition match to see.
My enemies are still doing strange 'interference' in matches. Myself (Test) and Kidman were fighting some of my enemies, Bubba and D-Von dudley, in a tag match. Steiner who had previously helped them interfere in my last tag match ran in and started attacking the Dudleys! Then my own tag team partner Kidman loses it and starts beating me up followed by Scott Dudley running in and helping Steiner beat up his brothers! Everyone except Kidman is on my enemies list but the only one to attack me in the chaos was my own team mate!
Anyway, it all ended with us all engaged in a 6 man fight outside the ring, I just managed to roll back into the ring on the '8' of the 10 count and managed to win the match that way.
Crazy stuff.
So I decided to clean house. I complained, set traps for and casually beat up Kidman over a couple of events and he got the message and pushed off, then I realised I still had Steven Richards as someone I'd somehow befriended I set about befriending some decent wrestlers. Now my wrestler is friends with The Undertaker, Stone Cold and Rhyno - so I know I've got some decent talent to watch my back.
I haven't managed to get a manager yet but I've only had a few tries, I think I'll cheer up The Undertaker some more and get him to be my manager.
The strategy in this game is very impressive. It's great weighing up if it's worth using some energy to setup at trap for your next opponent and if you can get in some cheap shots at your rivals and get your energy back before your match.
Really good stuff.
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