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Sun 30/11/03 at 19:52
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Broadband is finally going to be available in my town next week. I'm interested in possibly going LIVE with my X-Box but I pretty much know nothing about it.

So basically what I want to know is what kind of costs are involved and if there are any other cables/accessories I need to buy.

Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks.
Mon 01/12/03 at 22:39
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Notorious Biggles wrote:
> Maverick42 wrote:
> for example, want both my upstairs and downstairs PCs to have
> broadband access but don't want the hassle of two modems. I'm
> therefore routing the connection from downstairs to my upstairs PC.
> Routing isn't necessary for Xbox Live, but it is if you want to be
> on
> the PC internet at the same time.
>
> I'm not certain, but I don't think it would be possible to use two
> modems on the same line as both would need an external IP address,
> whereas a router would only need the one. Not certain, but just a
> warning.

You can't use 2 Modems full stop Maverick42. ADSL only allows one device on the line at once. A router allows you to share the connection easily. If you have one PC and a XBox then you can use Internet Connection Sharing(ICS). This allows the PC to send the connection via a crossover cable to the XBox. For this to work the PC has to be on. This way you can still use the PC to access the internet, even when on XBox Live. Routers allow everyone connected access to the internet whenever they want, but of course it can slow you down on XBox Live if there downloading files.
Mon 01/12/03 at 21:22
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Yeah, you'll be OK.
Mon 01/12/03 at 21:20
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Notorious Biggles wrote:
> Maverick42 wrote:
> for example, want both my upstairs and downstairs PCs to have
> broadband access but don't want the hassle of two modems. I'm
> therefore routing the connection from downstairs to my upstairs PC.
> Routing isn't necessary for Xbox Live, but it is if you want to be
> on
> the PC internet at the same time.
>
> I'm not certain, but I don't think it would be possible to use two
> modems on the same line as both would need an external IP address,
> whereas a router would only need the one. Not certain, but just a
> warning.

Oh. Well because I'm using a router, that means I'm ok regardless then, right?
Mon 01/12/03 at 21:04
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Maverick42 wrote:
> for example, want both my upstairs and downstairs PCs to have
> broadband access but don't want the hassle of two modems. I'm
> therefore routing the connection from downstairs to my upstairs PC.
> Routing isn't necessary for Xbox Live, but it is if you want to be on
> the PC internet at the same time.

I'm not certain, but I don't think it would be possible to use two modems on the same line as both would need an external IP address, whereas a router would only need the one. Not certain, but just a warning.
Mon 01/12/03 at 20:58
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Thanks Mav, Borat, Biggles, I'm taking note of all this.

:)
Mon 01/12/03 at 20:48
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Lou Role wrote:
> Also, I currently use BT Openworld, which is about 20 quid per month
> or something like that with the dial up connection. So if I get
> Broadband, and go with say, for example, BT Yahoo, then I asume I
> will no longer need to pay for the Openword service as well as the BB
> service?

Most ISPs let you cancel your connection at the end of your paying month. For example, I started AOL on the 10th of one month, and so I'm having it cancelled on December 10th to make way for broadband. BT should be no different.

Then you need to order your broadband service. You'll need to choose a good ISP, and preferably one that offers a 1mbs service. Personally, I'd recommend Eclipse's 1000 Lite - as after extensive research, it's cheapest and has the best feedback in terms of speed, customer care and reliability. It's just £32.50 per month and so the best value 1mbs service you'll find. If that looks a little too expensive, their 512kbs 500 Lite package is similarly excellent at £20.38 per month, though it still carries the hefty £50.00 activation fee.

Then you need a modem. Usually the ISP will provide a choice of special offer modems, but you can order one seperately if you wish. A modem/router may be the best option sometimes if you want to share your broadband bandwidth with various devices at the same time. I, for example, want both my upstairs and downstairs PCs to have broadband access but don't want the hassle of two modems. I'm therefore routing the connection from downstairs to my upstairs PC. Routing isn't necessary for Xbox Live, but it is if you want to be on the PC internet at the same time.

Pretty much all I can think of right now. It's a complicated topic really.
Mon 01/12/03 at 20:24
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Notorious Biggles wrote:
> Having a 1Mb ADSL connection won't make any difference compared to
> 512Kb because both have 256Kb upload speeds. And that is the
> determining factor. I think anyway.

hmm, unsure about that. perhaps I should pay more attention when people are teaching me things :S
Mon 01/12/03 at 20:18
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Having a 1Mb ADSL connection won't make any difference compared to 512Kb because both have 256Kb upload speeds. And that is the determining factor. I think anyway.
Mon 01/12/03 at 20:05
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Lou Role wrote:
> Well those costs aren't too bad, but will the 1MB connection work
> fast enough with LIVE?
>
> Also, I currently use BT Openworld, which is about 20 quid per month
> or something like that with the dial up connection. So if I get
> Broadband, and go with say, for example, BT Yahoo, then I asume I
> will no longer need to pay for the Openword service as well as the BB
> service?

you assume right. You can use live with the slowest (512k) broadband connection, although obviously you're advised to have the highest possible. 1MB works fine for me.
Mon 01/12/03 at 20:04
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ßora† SagdiyeV wrote:
> Err, well you need to get broadband for a start - that for me costs
> £40 a month for a 1MB connection. Then, if you want to split
> the bandwidth between a PC and an xbox, you'll need a router -
> another £40 or so. And your xbox live starter kit - £40.

Well those costs aren't too bad, but will the 1MB connection work fast enough with LIVE?

Also, I currently use BT Openworld, which is about 20 quid per month or something like that with the dial up connection. So if I get Broadband, and go with say, for example, BT Yahoo, then I asume I will no longer need to pay for the Openword service as well as the BB service?

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