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Wed 03/12/03 at 17:00
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Today on the way home from work I picked up a second hand copy of Viewtiful Joe. I've been looking forward to this game for a while, it looks really playable, just my sort of game.

Now having played it, I'm left feeling a bit deflated to be honest :O/ I keep looking at this character Joe and wishing he could do so much more stuff. He runs really slowly, he can't block, his range of moves seems limited in some ways and arbritrary in others - what's the difference between punching and kicking? Why not just have an 'Attack' button? It got better as I got used to it, but I expected this game to grip me by the throat from the get-go, not have me wondering what else I could be doing after half an hours play. Anyone else get this?

Even worse is that yesterday, my girlfriend came home with Medal of Honour: Allied Assault for the Cube. It's not the sort of game I'd buy myself, but it was cheap, so what the hell. We didn't get time to play it last night, so I slotted it in after an hour or so on VJ. What a bland, barren mess of a game. I despise first-person shooters on consoles, none moreso than MoHAA - I lost all interest in playing the game literally right after I ran up to the captain and couldn't hear what he was saying. I wandered around the beachfront trying to shoot my own soldiers until I got killed by the Germans. I don't know if I'm just disillusioned at the moment, but I've just played two new GC games that stink. If F-Zero sucks like this, I will bin my Cube :O|

Any of you bought games with high expectations only to have them let down when you actually play the thing?
Mon 15/12/03 at 08:47
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The GTA games are brilliant, even if the controls can be a bit messy and the aiming is complete crap. Vice City and GTA 3 are both great, but playing them you don't think "Wow, I'm playing one of the best games ever created." That's how you feel when battling a boss in Zelda, or creeping around the eerie crashed space-station on Metroid Prime. You know you're playing through a truly epic adventure and it really shows.

To me, GTA is a multiplayer game, and always will be.
Mon 15/12/03 at 00:59
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I know what you're getting at here and I'll set this straight now. :-)

No Zelda game has given you this amount of freedom to play around.
Getting from one mini-game to another meant going into a shop or travelling across the map to get to another "area".

Those sorts of mini-games were a nice touch in the N64 era, but old hat now and pretty much standard in a lot of games.


In GTA, instead of set-piece mini games you can travel to, the whole place is just one big playground to mess around with. Crammed with people and cars you can bully and steal at will.

The only Nintendo game that touches on that freedom is Animal Crossing.


Ofcourse, a big epic story would make things even better, especially one like in Conker or Majora's Mask where you get really involved with the characters.

But games like GTA and Mario tend to work well without a proper story because you only really need one if the game is linear.
Mon 15/12/03 at 00:45
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Ah but it could have perfect controls, beautiful graphics, free roaming atmosphere, a host of things to do but lets face it...

The story isn't as good.
Mon 15/12/03 at 00:31
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GTA 3 would've gotten away with that though, because it was the first game that let you roam around a living breathing city at will.
Just playing around with all the people and cars, and all the mini-quests...

It was the sort of game where you could do what you liked, as you felt like it.

That's what drove everyone crazy about it.
Mon 15/12/03 at 00:04
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No you wouldn't, the game wouldn't be epic enough because the story was a little reduced.
Sun 14/12/03 at 23:51
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Cyclone wrote:
> amos wrote:
> Insane Bartender wrote:
> Strafex wrote:
> GTA 3 blew everyone away by bringing a bustling city to life.
>
> not me. i still maintain that it's an absolutely god-awful game.
>
> even though i dont own the game, GTA 3 is an absolute stunner of a
> game. its fact, not opinion thats its one of the most technically
> impressive games out there.
>
> No it's not technically impressive. Because it's as ugly as sin and
> has very bad animations/AI.
>
> In fact the worst AI ever. EVER!

Yeah, but it has SO much of it.
It gives you the illusion that you're on the street and you can do whatever you like.

The only gripe I had was the control system, which was sort of awkward and clumsy.


If only DMA had collaborated with Nintendo, then we'd probably have gaming perfection...
Sun 14/12/03 at 23:50
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Which one?

...



:-)
Sun 14/12/03 at 23:21
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ARGH STRAFEX PLAY THE GAME AGAIN!
Sun 14/12/03 at 17:43
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amos wrote:
> Insane Bartender wrote:
> Strafex wrote:
> GTA 3 blew everyone away by bringing a bustling city to life.
>
> not me. i still maintain that it's an absolutely god-awful game.
>
> even though i dont own the game, GTA 3 is an absolute stunner of a
> game. its fact, not opinion thats its one of the most technically
> impressive games out there.

No it's not technically impressive. Because it's as ugly as sin and has very bad animations/AI.

In fact the worst AI ever. EVER!
Sat 13/12/03 at 23:29
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Whatever happened, Retro Studios deserve to be fully credited for Metroid Prime.

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