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Info from Rare employee
Perfect Dark 2 has been canned from XBOX 1 and is going over to XBOX 2.
Sabre Man Stamped has been canned from XBOX 1 and may not even be made for XBOX 2.
Kameo looks like its not going to be finished and may be canned.
Ghoulies has just been launched, sales are not to good and it should have been canned.
Full topic can be found here (don't laugh too hard, what have they done ?)
http://www.fatbabies.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4302
Perfect Dark 2 has been canned from XBOX 1 and is going over to XBOX 2.
Sabre Man Stamped has been canned from XBOX 1 and may not even be made for XBOX 2.
Kameo looks like its not going to be finished and may be canned.
Ghoulies has just been launched, sales are not to good and it should have been canned.
Full topic can be found here (don't laugh too hard, what have they done ?)
http://www.fatbabies.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4302
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Dringo wrote:
> But i still miss Rare.
That says it all really. Whilst I miss Rare and the sort of games they made on the N64, I do have an Xbox as well so I will at least still be able to get them.
If Rare could put that magic X factor into all their games then they WOULD be the best developers in the world. Sadly though they haven't. That thread shows lots of disillusionment within Rare. Which really is a shame.
Whilst things appear rather dire for them I think that if there is any company that could straighten things up it would be Microsoft. You don't get to be the worlds biggest company without decent management. With time I think they'll sort out Rare. And if they can manage it properly, then it will be good for gaming as a whole.
> But i still miss Rare.
That says it all really. Whilst I miss Rare and the sort of games they made on the N64, I do have an Xbox as well so I will at least still be able to get them.
If Rare could put that magic X factor into all their games then they WOULD be the best developers in the world. Sadly though they haven't. That thread shows lots of disillusionment within Rare. Which really is a shame.
Whilst things appear rather dire for them I think that if there is any company that could straighten things up it would be Microsoft. You don't get to be the worlds biggest company without decent management. With time I think they'll sort out Rare. And if they can manage it properly, then it will be good for gaming as a whole.
Strafio wrote:
> Starfox?
> Well, the awful fighting system wears it down by the end, but most
> aspects of the game were fantastic, which shows that they haven't
> lost any of their potential.
> It was just rushed out so the could buggger off to MS.
Starfox actually wasn't as bad as it was made out to be. Sure, it wasn't up to Rare's usual standards, and all the hype was wasted on a game that just manages to surpass the rating of 'average', but it certainly wasn't a bad game, as many suggested.
And, rushed out? It was in development for 5 years...
> Starfox?
> Well, the awful fighting system wears it down by the end, but most
> aspects of the game were fantastic, which shows that they haven't
> lost any of their potential.
> It was just rushed out so the could buggger off to MS.
Starfox actually wasn't as bad as it was made out to be. Sure, it wasn't up to Rare's usual standards, and all the hype was wasted on a game that just manages to surpass the rating of 'average', but it certainly wasn't a bad game, as many suggested.
And, rushed out? It was in development for 5 years...
It was rushed near the end of development.
Dringo wrote:
> How can Conker be a first person shooter when the game is in third
> person?
>
> Hmmm?
>
> And that's just the multiplayer. That was always a TPS.
Alright, 3rd person, but from what I've seen of Live & Uncut it's all bang-bang shooter.
> How can Conker be a first person shooter when the game is in third
> person?
>
> Hmmm?
>
> And that's just the multiplayer. That was always a TPS.
Alright, 3rd person, but from what I've seen of Live & Uncut it's all bang-bang shooter.
Dringo wrote:
> But i still miss Rare.
You just need to move on in your life now, old chum. She's gone, and there's nowt you can do.
> But i still miss Rare.
You just need to move on in your life now, old chum. She's gone, and there's nowt you can do.
Cyclone wrote:
>
> Alright, 3rd person, but from what I've seen of Live & Uncut it's
> all bang-bang shooter.
That's because all they've shown is the Live multiplayer shots.
And I can't let go... why do they haunt me so.
>
> Alright, 3rd person, but from what I've seen of Live & Uncut it's
> all bang-bang shooter.
That's because all they've shown is the Live multiplayer shots.
And I can't let go... why do they haunt me so.
AfroJoe wrote:
> Strafio wrote:
> And, rushed out? It was in development for 5 years...
It was completely re-worked during the last year and a half.
It was the end that was rushed.
They didn't stop to think and brush up the playability of the controls, in the spaceship and land, which is where the game was let down.
The graphics and effects showed where the last 2 years of Gamecube devellopment had gone.
As to Rare's other games.
Some of them were a bit hit and miss, but the misses were where they tried to copy Nintendo.
Starfox trying to be Zelda, Donkey Kong 64 trying to be Mario 64.
In the Goldeneye Vs Perfect Dark argument, as Goldeneye was the original, Perfect Dark was NEVER going to blow people away in the same way.
But other than a few mis-haps in level design, the game was fantastic.
Yeah there was slowdown, but only when there was splitscreen AND several CPU controlled AI bots running around.
Goldeneye suffered from slowdown in just 4 player mode sometimes, and in the singe player mode too.
I'd say the Perfect Dark was a bigger improvement over Goldeneye than Windwaker over Orcarina and Rare didn't need a more powerful system to do it! :-P
> Strafio wrote:
> And, rushed out? It was in development for 5 years...
It was completely re-worked during the last year and a half.
It was the end that was rushed.
They didn't stop to think and brush up the playability of the controls, in the spaceship and land, which is where the game was let down.
The graphics and effects showed where the last 2 years of Gamecube devellopment had gone.
As to Rare's other games.
Some of them were a bit hit and miss, but the misses were where they tried to copy Nintendo.
Starfox trying to be Zelda, Donkey Kong 64 trying to be Mario 64.
In the Goldeneye Vs Perfect Dark argument, as Goldeneye was the original, Perfect Dark was NEVER going to blow people away in the same way.
But other than a few mis-haps in level design, the game was fantastic.
Yeah there was slowdown, but only when there was splitscreen AND several CPU controlled AI bots running around.
Goldeneye suffered from slowdown in just 4 player mode sometimes, and in the singe player mode too.
I'd say the Perfect Dark was a bigger improvement over Goldeneye than Windwaker over Orcarina and Rare didn't need a more powerful system to do it! :-P
Strafio wrote:
> the playability of the
> controls, in the spaceship and land, which is where the game was let
> down.
No, where it was let down was in the boring repetitive and unimaginative gameplay. And the playability of the controls.
> the playability of the
> controls, in the spaceship and land, which is where the game was let
> down.
No, where it was let down was in the boring repetitive and unimaginative gameplay. And the playability of the controls.
On the subject of Rare, I think they're TRAITORS!!! And now Bill Gates is refusing to do any more Donkey Kong or Star Fox games! BUT...every copy of the following...
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
Mario Kart: Super Circuit
Super Smash Bros: Melee
Donkey Kong Country
Star Fox Adventures
...gives Bill Gates even more money, because they have Rare characters in them! BTW, is Banjo-Kazooie: Grunty's Revenge a Rare game? I'm not sur, but if so, that will give Bill more cash, too!
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
Mario Kart: Super Circuit
Super Smash Bros: Melee
Donkey Kong Country
Star Fox Adventures
...gives Bill Gates even more money, because they have Rare characters in them! BTW, is Banjo-Kazooie: Grunty's Revenge a Rare game? I'm not sur, but if so, that will give Bill more cash, too!
Galacticdramon wrote:
> On the subject of Rare, I think they're TRAITORS!!! And now Bill Gates
> is refusing to do any more Donkey Kong or Star Fox games! BUT...every
> copy of the following...
>
> Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
> Mario Kart: Super Circuit
> Super Smash Bros: Melee
> Donkey Kong Country
> Star Fox Adventures
>
> ...gives Bill Gates even more money, because they have Rare
> characters in them! BTW, is Banjo-Kazooie: Grunty's Revenge a Rare
> game? I'm not sur, but if so, that will give Bill more cash, too!
you speak total garbage!!
the donkey kong series is owned by NINTENDO, they made the first donkey kong games, but i doubt you have heard of them(here's a tip, the first was called "donkey kong"). this was long before Rare started making them, they just took over game production for the SNES games.
therefore, bill gates has NO control whatsoever over donkey kong or starfox(there is a starfox game being made by namco at this very moment...i think its namco)(donkey konga just came out in japan, are you just an idiot for not knowing?)
yes, the banjo-kazooie game on GBA was made by rare, they are still making game boy games.
i sincerely hope this was a wind-up, because nobody could honestly be this stupid.
> On the subject of Rare, I think they're TRAITORS!!! And now Bill Gates
> is refusing to do any more Donkey Kong or Star Fox games! BUT...every
> copy of the following...
>
> Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
> Mario Kart: Super Circuit
> Super Smash Bros: Melee
> Donkey Kong Country
> Star Fox Adventures
>
> ...gives Bill Gates even more money, because they have Rare
> characters in them! BTW, is Banjo-Kazooie: Grunty's Revenge a Rare
> game? I'm not sur, but if so, that will give Bill more cash, too!
you speak total garbage!!
the donkey kong series is owned by NINTENDO, they made the first donkey kong games, but i doubt you have heard of them(here's a tip, the first was called "donkey kong"). this was long before Rare started making them, they just took over game production for the SNES games.
therefore, bill gates has NO control whatsoever over donkey kong or starfox(there is a starfox game being made by namco at this very moment...i think its namco)(donkey konga just came out in japan, are you just an idiot for not knowing?)
yes, the banjo-kazooie game on GBA was made by rare, they are still making game boy games.
i sincerely hope this was a wind-up, because nobody could honestly be this stupid.
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