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Wed 14/04/04 at 10:15
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Being a die-hard Nintendo fan is not easy you know. Every morning I get up, bow to my Gamecube, kiss all my joy pads and religiously study the manuals of all my Nintendo games (SNES. NES, N64, Gamecube and Gameboy). Every piece of negative news I spin into a positive light, I do it so well, Nintendo should hire me as their PR wizard.

But I’ve had enough. Nintendo you are one ******* stupid bloody piece of ****. That’s right it is I, the legendary Dringo, he who can not be slain by Playstation and starves off the threat of the X-box who is saying this you proud ******. What the hell are you playing at? I’m a WESTERN NINTENDO FAN, I don’t get all those ******* titles from Japan with the words Giftipia or Animal Forest printed on the side. And the ones I do get, Doshin the ******* Giant, turns out to be a pile of utter toss.

Every time I spin some negative news article into a positive light but why? Who’s the idiot now ah? You cut second party ties with a certain Left Field, Left Field (NBA courtside and Excitebike 64) are your sports developer; they make your sports games. But oh look you don’t REALLY need them now SEGA has gone multi-format with their sports range. So remove them, who cares. Oh well look at that, less than a year later and SEGA cancel all their sports titles for the Gamecube. WOOPS! Now whom can you turn to? That’s right NO ONE, I have noticed you are now making your own mature sports games (the upcoming Legend of Golfer) but it’s too late.

Ah yes Nintendo, now onto Rare Ware. My previous status was that “they’re crap anyway” and that “they lost Nintendo money”. ********, you ARE dumb aren’t you Nintendo? Want to know why they didn’t make you much money in the year before you sold them? Because they didn’t ACTUALLY release any bloody games! Rare Ware are an unresponsive developer but they were your other half, they are more than Silicon Knights, Left Field, HAL etc... put together. They made Banjo, Conker, Killer Instinct, Donkey Kong and Perfect Dark… all of these are BIG Nintendo releases, well they would have been if you hadn’t ******* sold them! Look at this, your sales aren’t up to scratch! Could this be down to a certain absence of a company that made half your AAA titles? It nearly forced me away, but then that was okay, at least you have Retro Studios and Silicon Knights.

Oh Sympathy where have you gone.

First off you crush Retro Studio’s. A bit of a re-shuffle was needed, EAD’s help was appreciated on Metroid Prime. BUT did you really need to destroy the 4 teams that were there into 1? Raven Blade, that racer and that football game WAS exactly what Nintendo Gamecube lacks. A decent footy game, a decent exclusive racing title and a mature action RPG. But you cancelled them. Did you really have to scrap all those games?

And now modern day. The one that made me snap. I love Silicon Knights. True they are hardly a true example of Nintendo (prefer cinematic gameplay and adult games) but that was the point. Nintendo you’ve told me time and time again how you want to be more “adult” and Eternal Darkness and Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes are YOUR most mature games. And you cut ties with the company behind them? Too Human can now return to the PS2, which it was originally coded for, and you’ve lost yet another special western developer.

I know Nintendo. You have loads of second parties, some I never even knew about including that new sports developer SETA (ever heard of them? No neither have I). But Rare, Silicon Knights, the full Retro team and Left Field could have all pushed Nintendo in both Europe and America. You would have defeated Microsoft and competed more fiercely. But instead you try to get exclusives from other companies that simply do not sell. Capcom are having to cancel their plans to keep Viewtiful Joe and Killer 7 exclusive and cannot wait for the Resident Evil deal to expire. Namco are doing okay but that’s because they hardly support Nintendo as much as they support Sony. SEGA have been drifting away ever so slowly, remember the Virtual Fighter RPG and the sonic series were once exclusive to Nintendo. They are both now lost.

So tell me Nintendo, who do you have left to sell your product to the western world? You don’t have Rare, you don’t have Silicon Knights, you don’t have Left field. Christ you don’t even have Capcom anymore. And in fact you’ve even lost Dringo, your most avid supporter. Sure I love Zelda and Mario, but I’m a western gamer, I have western needs and the only western game you actually make is Metroid Prime, and I don’t even like it.

Maybe one day you’ll acquire some killer, high profile companies such as Capcom, Midway or Free Radical Design. But in the mean time I need to raise funds for an X-box. After all a western Nintendo fan needs his Rare.

Dringo.
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Fri 16/04/04 at 17:58
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But then again I've seen you on live about.. twice.

I also notice there isn't an FPS game in your list.

The titles you mention I would have enjoyed on my N64, I've moved on however.
Fri 16/04/04 at 17:55
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Add SSBM, Mario Party, 1080, F-Zero, Rebel Stike and Crystal Chronicles to that list.

In my opinion, the GameCube is by far the best console for multiplayer gaming.
Fri 16/04/04 at 17:51
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Mario Kart, Monkey Ball and Pacman vs?

Big list.

Mario Kart isn't a patch on the '64 version and is prone to have it's karting crown snatched.

Monkey Ball is great but shortlived, I played it again recently in a drunken gaming sesh on my mate's new cube (where'd he get that I wonder...), once you've made some impossible scores it loses some appeal. Still good in small doses.

Pacman vs I have no idea about but from what I've heard it sounds quite shortlived also.

But aside from the shortlived exclusives there's a great deal of multiformat titles, however downloadable content and a useful HD make them more appealing on an Xbox than on a cube simply for practicality. Multiplayer-wise the best choice is the Xbox because it's generally the best console for multiformat multiplayer and it's also weighted with online games.

System Link is also great of you can afford it.

As many will attest: I'm heavily into my multiplayer gaming so I know what I'm talking about.
Fri 16/04/04 at 17:48
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FACTOR 5 ASWELL?!

I WAS ONLY AWAY FOR TWO BLOODY DAYS AND THIS HAPPENS!

Please, please tell me the bad news stops here...
Fri 16/04/04 at 17:46
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Oh s**t.

Why. WHY?

Nintendo have the worst business sense ever.

TGM Bloke appears to have the worst taste in anything ever. "Ther iv sed it"
Fri 16/04/04 at 17:40
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But Nintendo own Silicon Knights, don't they?

What the hell is going on?
Fri 16/04/04 at 17:38
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Mav wrote:
> What? Nintendo haven't cut ties with Silicon Knights!

*Pokes*

Wake up Rip-van-Mav, where've you been, eh?
Fri 16/04/04 at 17:36
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TGMbloke wrote:
> Kung. Fu. Chaos.

10/10!!!1111 One for MWA ;-)

> JSRF in its own way, Top spin Tennis, MTM3 offline is fun, Halo
> Co-Op, Worms 3D, Crimson Skies, the list goes on...Many are online as
> well, but splitscreen too.

JSRF is good, but hardly brilliant, and MM3 is awful, in every single way, as well as Worms 3D being on the Cube anyway. Compared to the Cube's multiplayer games, the XBox really doesn't offer much at all. Pac-Man Vs., Super Monkey Ball 1 & 2, Mario Kart... the Cube has the best multiplayer titles around. For a short list of the best the XBox has to offer, it's not half as impressive as the Cube's.

A new Nintendo console? While I agree that the GameCube is certainly powerful enough (Resi 4 looks like the best game on any platform, graphics wise), but you just get the feeling that Nintendo need a new start if they want to really succeed in the console market. As much as I hate to admit it, I doubt the GameCube alone can turn around Nintnedo's populairty, as good as it is. People see the XBox and PS2 with GTA and the like, get one and no matter what brilliance is staring them in the face, whether it be constant 10/10 scores in multiformat magazines for the likes of Zelda, Prime, F-Zero Sunshine, people are stubborn b*stards and they won't... give in.

Trust me, I know; despite my brother who is seeking a new console loving the look of Resi 4, and admitting that Mario Kart, Pac-Man and Monkey Ball are the best multiplayer titles he's played, he still wants an XBox because of the more serious games that it has. Of course this may just be because he prefers FPS' and racing games (perhaps), but you have to admit the Cube doesn't have an image screams "BUY ME!" when you look at it.

Back to the start of the topic... I feel that the two losses in development will cost Nintendo even more consumers; horror fans may love the look of Resi 4, but to buy a whole console for it, they'd need other exclusives to... a la ED 2 and Too Human. Obviously Star Wars is a huge seller and appeals to many people of all ages, and fans would go ape nuts to see yet more exclusives on the Cube.

So what do Nintendo replace these developers with (so to speak)? Kuju, SETA... while good, I can't help but feel they'll just end up creating yet more Mario Party games and the like, not really adding much diversity at all to Nintendo's line-up (bar maybe the occasional serious sports title).

I'd love to see the Cube live for a lot longer, as it's obviously very powerful and capable of much more, but the console market requires more than that... perhaps...
Fri 16/04/04 at 17:35
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What? Nintendo haven't cut ties with Silicon Knights!
Fri 16/04/04 at 16:32
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I prefer PC gaming but the Cube offers something that no other platform does, Nintendo and all the joys that are associated with them.
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