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Wed 14/04/04 at 10:15
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Being a die-hard Nintendo fan is not easy you know. Every morning I get up, bow to my Gamecube, kiss all my joy pads and religiously study the manuals of all my Nintendo games (SNES. NES, N64, Gamecube and Gameboy). Every piece of negative news I spin into a positive light, I do it so well, Nintendo should hire me as their PR wizard.

But I’ve had enough. Nintendo you are one ******* stupid bloody piece of ****. That’s right it is I, the legendary Dringo, he who can not be slain by Playstation and starves off the threat of the X-box who is saying this you proud ******. What the hell are you playing at? I’m a WESTERN NINTENDO FAN, I don’t get all those ******* titles from Japan with the words Giftipia or Animal Forest printed on the side. And the ones I do get, Doshin the ******* Giant, turns out to be a pile of utter toss.

Every time I spin some negative news article into a positive light but why? Who’s the idiot now ah? You cut second party ties with a certain Left Field, Left Field (NBA courtside and Excitebike 64) are your sports developer; they make your sports games. But oh look you don’t REALLY need them now SEGA has gone multi-format with their sports range. So remove them, who cares. Oh well look at that, less than a year later and SEGA cancel all their sports titles for the Gamecube. WOOPS! Now whom can you turn to? That’s right NO ONE, I have noticed you are now making your own mature sports games (the upcoming Legend of Golfer) but it’s too late.

Ah yes Nintendo, now onto Rare Ware. My previous status was that “they’re crap anyway” and that “they lost Nintendo money”. ********, you ARE dumb aren’t you Nintendo? Want to know why they didn’t make you much money in the year before you sold them? Because they didn’t ACTUALLY release any bloody games! Rare Ware are an unresponsive developer but they were your other half, they are more than Silicon Knights, Left Field, HAL etc... put together. They made Banjo, Conker, Killer Instinct, Donkey Kong and Perfect Dark… all of these are BIG Nintendo releases, well they would have been if you hadn’t ******* sold them! Look at this, your sales aren’t up to scratch! Could this be down to a certain absence of a company that made half your AAA titles? It nearly forced me away, but then that was okay, at least you have Retro Studios and Silicon Knights.

Oh Sympathy where have you gone.

First off you crush Retro Studio’s. A bit of a re-shuffle was needed, EAD’s help was appreciated on Metroid Prime. BUT did you really need to destroy the 4 teams that were there into 1? Raven Blade, that racer and that football game WAS exactly what Nintendo Gamecube lacks. A decent footy game, a decent exclusive racing title and a mature action RPG. But you cancelled them. Did you really have to scrap all those games?

And now modern day. The one that made me snap. I love Silicon Knights. True they are hardly a true example of Nintendo (prefer cinematic gameplay and adult games) but that was the point. Nintendo you’ve told me time and time again how you want to be more “adult” and Eternal Darkness and Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes are YOUR most mature games. And you cut ties with the company behind them? Too Human can now return to the PS2, which it was originally coded for, and you’ve lost yet another special western developer.

I know Nintendo. You have loads of second parties, some I never even knew about including that new sports developer SETA (ever heard of them? No neither have I). But Rare, Silicon Knights, the full Retro team and Left Field could have all pushed Nintendo in both Europe and America. You would have defeated Microsoft and competed more fiercely. But instead you try to get exclusives from other companies that simply do not sell. Capcom are having to cancel their plans to keep Viewtiful Joe and Killer 7 exclusive and cannot wait for the Resident Evil deal to expire. Namco are doing okay but that’s because they hardly support Nintendo as much as they support Sony. SEGA have been drifting away ever so slowly, remember the Virtual Fighter RPG and the sonic series were once exclusive to Nintendo. They are both now lost.

So tell me Nintendo, who do you have left to sell your product to the western world? You don’t have Rare, you don’t have Silicon Knights, you don’t have Left field. Christ you don’t even have Capcom anymore. And in fact you’ve even lost Dringo, your most avid supporter. Sure I love Zelda and Mario, but I’m a western gamer, I have western needs and the only western game you actually make is Metroid Prime, and I don’t even like it.

Maybe one day you’ll acquire some killer, high profile companies such as Capcom, Midway or Free Radical Design. But in the mean time I need to raise funds for an X-box. After all a western Nintendo fan needs his Rare.

Dringo.
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Fri 16/04/04 at 22:26
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Well I would list the 4 player offline games I have for the Xbox but it would take quite a long time.
Fri 16/04/04 at 22:21
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Hedfix wrote:
> But then again I've seen you on live about.. twice.

I've played enough of it to realise that it's best in small amounts, and doesn't touch the more social multiplayer side of gaming - getting mates round and making a thing of it.

> I also notice there isn't an FPS game in your list.

Well I was listing exclusives, and FPS exclusives are not the Cube's strongest point. In terms of multi-format games, TimeSplitters 2 is great for the exclusive four-player option, and I've got a lot of fun out of Jedi Knight 2.

I wouldn't really say that the Xbox was an ideal console for conventional multiplayer. The PS2 and GameCube both have a fair amount going for them in this respect, but the Xbox excels in other areas such as online play.
Fri 16/04/04 at 21:47
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I think the GBA-GC thing is just a gimmick, I know it's rubbish, you know its rubbish. We all know it's rubbish. I mean come on, does it offer us gamers any real benefit? I know, as an ex Cube owner, I used the feature once to see what it did (in Zelda to be exact).

It wasn't worth the money or the effort, in fact I could play zelda quite happily without it.

Conclusion: Nintendo need to pump the innovation they are known for into the cube itself. They have the games, but where are the features?.
Fri 16/04/04 at 21:28
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Rickoss wrote:
> You certainly
> won't find better on the XBox.

Apart from every game I prefer to the monkey balls which I have on the Xbox.
>
> As for having two XBox's, not everyone has that much money to spare.

> and don't have that much money to waste, Nintendo's
> exclusive multiplayer titles are always the best.

1. It's not a waste for how I game.

2. Nintendo's multiplayer titles beat everything else with a multiplayer mode? So a die hard FPS gamer is going to choose Monkey Ball over Halo because it's a Nintendo game?

> The XBox may well be better on Live, but you can't beat playing real
> people, plus you save yourself a good £40.

16 player matches are ever so slightly good, especially if you've got some friends in the game too, oh and you do actually play against 'real people' on Live y'know.

40 quid? Well considering I got 4 months play just out of RS3 (and I haven't finished with it yet) compared to about a month or so out of Monkey Ball I'd say it's 40 quid well spent on Live.
Fri 16/04/04 at 20:49
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Hedfix wrote:
> They get tiring in multiplayer too, but I've spent about a month
> competing on Monkey Target and Golf when I first got them. Once you
> fill those scores up it loses appeal.

Well that must be down to taste then. I always opt for them when a few mates come around. We sometimes play newer titles, but always revert to these three as they are the best on offer. You certainly won't find better on the XBox.

As for having two XBox's, not everyone has that much money to spare. Sure, it'll probably be great, as is Live, but for those who can't get Live (me) and don't have that much money to waste, Nintendo's exclusive multiplayer titles are always the best.

When it comes down to raw gaming, the best you'll find is the Cube in my opinion, and thsoe of you lucky to have a GBA (which many people do), only have to pay £5 to play such brilliant, inventive games like Pac-Man Vs.

The XBox may well be better on Live, but you can't beat playing real people, plus you save yourself a good £40.
Fri 16/04/04 at 19:11
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Mav wrote:
> FACTOR 5 ASWELL?!
>
> I WAS ONLY AWAY FOR TWO BLOODY DAYS AND THIS HAPPENS!
>
> Please, please tell me the bad news stops here...

Basically Mav it goes like this. Silicon Knights will still do games for Cube, but they'll be multi-format now. *Cries* And Factor 5 is stopping doing stuff for Cube, but is staying with Nintendo to work on N5 and DS stuff. Whether they'll do stuff for Xbox/PS2/PSP as well is unknown.

Feel free to weep now..
Fri 16/04/04 at 19:02
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Rickoss wrote:

> When did I say it wasn't?

I think you mean 'when did I say it was?'

What I'm saying is that they're the best
> multiplayer games you can get, and they're Cube exclusives.

But they're not the best. They're short lived and the earlier Mario Karts are better.

They may
> well be shortlived, but only in single-player; after a while Mario
> Kart and Super Monkey Ball get tiring by yourself, but all three are
> brilliant whenever, no matter how much you've played them.

They get tiring in multiplayer too, but I've spent about a month competing on Monkey Target and Golf when I first got them. Once you fill those scores up it loses appeal.
>
> The closest thing I can think of on the XBox that is as addictive,
> easy to play and fun is TimeSplitters 2, which is multiformat
> anyway.

Which the HD is useful for. What I was saying earlier is that some multiformat titles may aswell be exclusive to the console as far as I was concerned when I had my cube simply for the practicality of the HD.
>
> Plus, like Mav said there are tons of others that also dominate the
> multiplayer market.

and the main ones were done better on the '64 or suit that era of gaming better IMO.

All in all, it's a bigger 'list' (if that's what
> you want to call it) than the XBox exclusives. Of course, The Cube
> doesn't have onlien though, so it still fails to be the best at
> multiplayer by yourself...

Ah but I have two Xboxes online, so once again: 'getting the best of both worlds' applies.
Fri 16/04/04 at 18:51
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Hedfix wrote:
> Mario Kart, Monkey Ball and Pacman vs?
>
> Big list.

When did I say it wasn't? What I'm saying is that they're the best multiplayer games you can get, and they're Cube exclusives. They may well be shortlived, but only in single-player; after a while Mario Kart and Super Monkey Ball get tiring by yourself, but all three are brilliant whenever, no matter how much you've played them.

The closest thing I can think of on the XBox that is as addictive, easy to play and fun is TimeSplitters 2, which is multiformat anyway.

Plus, like Mav said there are tons of others that also dominate the multiplayer market. All in all, it's a bigger 'list' (if that's what you want to call it) than the XBox exclusives. Of course, The Cube doesn't have onlien though, so it still fails to be the best at multiplayer by yourself...
Fri 16/04/04 at 18:01
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If the Nintendo games mentioned by Mav and Rickoss were online then I'd be very happy.

Roll on the next console.
Fri 16/04/04 at 17:58
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*fanboy*

Imagine if Nintendo scrapped the cube and released all their games for the PC.

Wouldn't the world be a better place?

Yes.

*scarpers*
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