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Wed 14/04/04 at 10:15
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Being a die-hard Nintendo fan is not easy you know. Every morning I get up, bow to my Gamecube, kiss all my joy pads and religiously study the manuals of all my Nintendo games (SNES. NES, N64, Gamecube and Gameboy). Every piece of negative news I spin into a positive light, I do it so well, Nintendo should hire me as their PR wizard.

But I’ve had enough. Nintendo you are one ******* stupid bloody piece of ****. That’s right it is I, the legendary Dringo, he who can not be slain by Playstation and starves off the threat of the X-box who is saying this you proud ******. What the hell are you playing at? I’m a WESTERN NINTENDO FAN, I don’t get all those ******* titles from Japan with the words Giftipia or Animal Forest printed on the side. And the ones I do get, Doshin the ******* Giant, turns out to be a pile of utter toss.

Every time I spin some negative news article into a positive light but why? Who’s the idiot now ah? You cut second party ties with a certain Left Field, Left Field (NBA courtside and Excitebike 64) are your sports developer; they make your sports games. But oh look you don’t REALLY need them now SEGA has gone multi-format with their sports range. So remove them, who cares. Oh well look at that, less than a year later and SEGA cancel all their sports titles for the Gamecube. WOOPS! Now whom can you turn to? That’s right NO ONE, I have noticed you are now making your own mature sports games (the upcoming Legend of Golfer) but it’s too late.

Ah yes Nintendo, now onto Rare Ware. My previous status was that “they’re crap anyway” and that “they lost Nintendo money”. ********, you ARE dumb aren’t you Nintendo? Want to know why they didn’t make you much money in the year before you sold them? Because they didn’t ACTUALLY release any bloody games! Rare Ware are an unresponsive developer but they were your other half, they are more than Silicon Knights, Left Field, HAL etc... put together. They made Banjo, Conker, Killer Instinct, Donkey Kong and Perfect Dark… all of these are BIG Nintendo releases, well they would have been if you hadn’t ******* sold them! Look at this, your sales aren’t up to scratch! Could this be down to a certain absence of a company that made half your AAA titles? It nearly forced me away, but then that was okay, at least you have Retro Studios and Silicon Knights.

Oh Sympathy where have you gone.

First off you crush Retro Studio’s. A bit of a re-shuffle was needed, EAD’s help was appreciated on Metroid Prime. BUT did you really need to destroy the 4 teams that were there into 1? Raven Blade, that racer and that football game WAS exactly what Nintendo Gamecube lacks. A decent footy game, a decent exclusive racing title and a mature action RPG. But you cancelled them. Did you really have to scrap all those games?

And now modern day. The one that made me snap. I love Silicon Knights. True they are hardly a true example of Nintendo (prefer cinematic gameplay and adult games) but that was the point. Nintendo you’ve told me time and time again how you want to be more “adult” and Eternal Darkness and Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes are YOUR most mature games. And you cut ties with the company behind them? Too Human can now return to the PS2, which it was originally coded for, and you’ve lost yet another special western developer.

I know Nintendo. You have loads of second parties, some I never even knew about including that new sports developer SETA (ever heard of them? No neither have I). But Rare, Silicon Knights, the full Retro team and Left Field could have all pushed Nintendo in both Europe and America. You would have defeated Microsoft and competed more fiercely. But instead you try to get exclusives from other companies that simply do not sell. Capcom are having to cancel their plans to keep Viewtiful Joe and Killer 7 exclusive and cannot wait for the Resident Evil deal to expire. Namco are doing okay but that’s because they hardly support Nintendo as much as they support Sony. SEGA have been drifting away ever so slowly, remember the Virtual Fighter RPG and the sonic series were once exclusive to Nintendo. They are both now lost.

So tell me Nintendo, who do you have left to sell your product to the western world? You don’t have Rare, you don’t have Silicon Knights, you don’t have Left field. Christ you don’t even have Capcom anymore. And in fact you’ve even lost Dringo, your most avid supporter. Sure I love Zelda and Mario, but I’m a western gamer, I have western needs and the only western game you actually make is Metroid Prime, and I don’t even like it.

Maybe one day you’ll acquire some killer, high profile companies such as Capcom, Midway or Free Radical Design. But in the mean time I need to raise funds for an X-box. After all a western Nintendo fan needs his Rare.

Dringo.
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Sat 17/04/04 at 19:01
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Hedfix wrote:
> SR-Live... 2 Xboxes... etc etc
>
> *Writes it down on a sticky pad*

Sorry, but people I know from SR that I've never even seen in real life are no match for "real" mates. Don't know about it for you.. maybe you don't have any :) But seeing a mate you've known in the flesh for years react as you whup their ass is more satisfying than someone you've talked to on SR and MSN.
Sat 17/04/04 at 17:52
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tphi wrote:
> Dringo wrote:
> It is that reason I dislike LIVE... it just doesn't feel fun to me.
>
> Agreed, it's much more fun to laugh at people you know, rather than
> "Evil_Bob2k" from Australia.

SR-Live... 2 Xboxes... etc etc

*Writes it down on a sticky pad*
Sat 17/04/04 at 17:48
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Rickoss wrote:
>
> So you'd rather pay £100+ for an extra console that you don't
> even need rather than getting 3 or 4 games? Splitscreen is just as
> good.

I need it for PC style gaming. This is where your opponent can't see your screen. If you want any degree of realism it helps quite a bit if you can't see the other guy's screen y'know. Hell if you don't want me racking up 20 kills to nil then it's best to have separate screens.

> Nope, not because it's a Nintendo game (because it isn't), because
> it's a better game with basic splitscreen

Oh good Monkey Ball vs Halo. Hmmm but I can't play CTF on Monkey Ball, nor can I play a 16 player deathmatch. But of course it's a 'better' game, just not to me or a hell of a lot of other people. :S
>
> Ever heard of 'offline' multiplayer?

Well considering I've probably played more multiplayer games than you and for a longer time...

no.

What IS this magical 'offline multiplayer' you speak of, is it something to do with Goldeneye, PD or CBFD?

I'm not talking about online,
> it's completely different to offline.

Two Xboxes... Same room... System Link... Live... Signal split for games...

I personally much rather
> getting a few friends round than playing with people I've never met
> before. Nothing beats playing with friends, and you won't find any
> better than the Cube.

Ha ha your friend is your cube? :D

Seriously though as I've mentioned a FEW times in this thread: I do play online with friends (in the SAME Room!!11) ... do I have to write it down on a sticky pad for you to remember this?

See I have two xboxes because nothing beats playing with friends... wasn't your earlier point that I don't need it? Well clearly I do don't I?

Also the fact that I still have my two Xboxes and no longer have my Cube kind of disproves what you're saying that the Cube is best for all. I'm afraid you're wrong, 'freedom of choice' and all that.
Sat 17/04/04 at 13:55
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Dringo wrote:
> It is that reason I dislike LIVE... it just doesn't feel fun to me.

Agreed, it's much more fun to laugh at people you know, rather than "Evil_Bob2k" from Australia.
Sat 17/04/04 at 13:45
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gamezfreak wrote:
> Rickoss wrote:
> I know enough to warrant myself an opinion of it.
>
> Ever heard of a game called Pac-Man Vs.?
>
> Nope.

Well you obviously don't, then. There's no fuss getting your GBA and cable out, it'll take, what, 20 seconds? I'm not saying people should buy a GBA for these games alone, but you have one, get a link cable, because they're brilliant.

There's a lot to be found beyond unlockables, you know. This connectivety has a lot of scope when you really think about, and from what I've played, proves to be a whole new gaming experience. Now just imagine when wireless link cables come out over here... perfect.
Sat 17/04/04 at 13:22
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I really need to get myself a GBA cable. They're only £5 but I just can't be bothered. I think SR should do the official one as a free gift, then I could use my reddys to get it. Hurrey.

I hate buying cables.
Sat 17/04/04 at 13:11
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Rickoss wrote:
> You obviously know nothing about it at all, then.

I know enough to warrant myself an opinion of it.

> Ever heard of a game called Pac-Man Vs.?

Nope.

> All you need is one GBA, 3 controllers, 4 friends and the game

Which is why I generally dislike the whole idea, In *my* opinion its a complete waste of time. Me and my mates prefer to just grab four controllers and have a laugh, no need for messing around with the GBA. In fact we have LAN party's more then anything. (I'm a PC fanboy - yes)
Sat 17/04/04 at 11:10
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For pure, sitting in your room, mates over, beers out, multiplayer giggles Nintendo really does rule.

I hate 5 mates in my room the other day playing Mario Kart, Timesplitters 2 and Pacman Vs.

There is a reason why Nintendo rule.

It is that reason I dislike LIVE... it just doesn't feel fun to me.
Sat 17/04/04 at 10:59
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gamezfreak wrote:
> I think the GBA-GC thing is just a gimmick, I know it's rubbish, you
> know its rubbish. We all know it's rubbish. I mean come on, does it
> offer us gamers any real benefit?

You obviously know nothing about it at all, then. I agree that Nintendo pushing it so much is a stupid idea, but thinking it's just for unlocking extra dungeons and having a map is very, very stupid. Ever heard of a game called Pac-Man Vs.?

All you need is one GBA, 3 controllers, 4 friends and the game (which you get free with R: Racing anyway). What do you get out of it? A whole new gaming experience. I thought Hedfix of all people would understand how great it is as he obviously favours multiplayer. Like I've said before, extra levels and the like is no real incentive to get a GBA, but a great little extra for those who have one.

I think Rayman 3 was the real start of it. The person with the GBA, who was making a track with Tetris-esque blocks, had to comunicate with the on-screen playing by telling them where to go while racing on that very track. Very simple, not brilliant, but a nice taster of what was to come. Pac-Man Vs. is getting exactly what was expected out of this connectivety system. Miyamoto meant for this to be the future, and it always seems as though the head of the PSP is 'adopting' the idea, according to a quote from CUBE.
Sat 17/04/04 at 10:52
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Hedfix wrote:
> 1. It's not a waste for how I game.

So you'd rather pay £100+ for an extra console that you don't even need rather than getting 3 or 4 games? Splitscreen is just as good.

> 2. Nintendo's multiplayer titles beat everything else with a
> multiplayer mode? So a die hard FPS gamer is going to choose Monkey
> Ball over Halo because it's a Nintendo game?

Nope, not because it's a Nintendo game (because it isn't), because it's a better game with basic splitscreen

> 16 player matches are ever so slightly good, especially if you've got
> some friends in the game too, oh and you do actually play against
> 'real people' on Live y'know.

Ever heard of 'offline' multiplayer? I'm not talking about online, it's completely different to offline. I personally much rather getting a few friends round than playing with people I've never met before. Nothing beats playing with friends, and you won't find any better than the Cube.
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