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Being a die-hard Nintendo fan is not easy you know. Every morning I get up, bow to my Gamecube, kiss all my joy pads and religiously study the manuals of all my Nintendo games (SNES. NES, N64, Gamecube and Gameboy). Every piece of negative news I spin into a positive light, I do it so well, Nintendo should hire me as their PR wizard.
But I’ve had enough. Nintendo you are one ******* stupid bloody piece of ****. That’s right it is I, the legendary Dringo, he who can not be slain by Playstation and starves off the threat of the X-box who is saying this you proud ******. What the hell are you playing at? I’m a WESTERN NINTENDO FAN, I don’t get all those ******* titles from Japan with the words Giftipia or Animal Forest printed on the side. And the ones I do get, Doshin the ******* Giant, turns out to be a pile of utter toss.
Every time I spin some negative news article into a positive light but why? Who’s the idiot now ah? You cut second party ties with a certain Left Field, Left Field (NBA courtside and Excitebike 64) are your sports developer; they make your sports games. But oh look you don’t REALLY need them now SEGA has gone multi-format with their sports range. So remove them, who cares. Oh well look at that, less than a year later and SEGA cancel all their sports titles for the Gamecube. WOOPS! Now whom can you turn to? That’s right NO ONE, I have noticed you are now making your own mature sports games (the upcoming Legend of Golfer) but it’s too late.
Ah yes Nintendo, now onto Rare Ware. My previous status was that “they’re crap anyway” and that “they lost Nintendo money”. ********, you ARE dumb aren’t you Nintendo? Want to know why they didn’t make you much money in the year before you sold them? Because they didn’t ACTUALLY release any bloody games! Rare Ware are an unresponsive developer but they were your other half, they are more than Silicon Knights, Left Field, HAL etc... put together. They made Banjo, Conker, Killer Instinct, Donkey Kong and Perfect Dark… all of these are BIG Nintendo releases, well they would have been if you hadn’t ******* sold them! Look at this, your sales aren’t up to scratch! Could this be down to a certain absence of a company that made half your AAA titles? It nearly forced me away, but then that was okay, at least you have Retro Studios and Silicon Knights.
Oh Sympathy where have you gone.
First off you crush Retro Studio’s. A bit of a re-shuffle was needed, EAD’s help was appreciated on Metroid Prime. BUT did you really need to destroy the 4 teams that were there into 1? Raven Blade, that racer and that football game WAS exactly what Nintendo Gamecube lacks. A decent footy game, a decent exclusive racing title and a mature action RPG. But you cancelled them. Did you really have to scrap all those games?
And now modern day. The one that made me snap. I love Silicon Knights. True they are hardly a true example of Nintendo (prefer cinematic gameplay and adult games) but that was the point. Nintendo you’ve told me time and time again how you want to be more “adult” and Eternal Darkness and Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes are YOUR most mature games. And you cut ties with the company behind them? Too Human can now return to the PS2, which it was originally coded for, and you’ve lost yet another special western developer.
I know Nintendo. You have loads of second parties, some I never even knew about including that new sports developer SETA (ever heard of them? No neither have I). But Rare, Silicon Knights, the full Retro team and Left Field could have all pushed Nintendo in both Europe and America. You would have defeated Microsoft and competed more fiercely. But instead you try to get exclusives from other companies that simply do not sell. Capcom are having to cancel their plans to keep Viewtiful Joe and Killer 7 exclusive and cannot wait for the Resident Evil deal to expire. Namco are doing okay but that’s because they hardly support Nintendo as much as they support Sony. SEGA have been drifting away ever so slowly, remember the Virtual Fighter RPG and the sonic series were once exclusive to Nintendo. They are both now lost.
So tell me Nintendo, who do you have left to sell your product to the western world? You don’t have Rare, you don’t have Silicon Knights, you don’t have Left field. Christ you don’t even have Capcom anymore. And in fact you’ve even lost Dringo, your most avid supporter. Sure I love Zelda and Mario, but I’m a western gamer, I have western needs and the only western game you actually make is Metroid Prime, and I don’t even like it.
Maybe one day you’ll acquire some killer, high profile companies such as Capcom, Midway or Free Radical Design. But in the mean time I need to raise funds for an X-box. After all a western Nintendo fan needs his Rare.
Dringo.
But I’ve had enough. Nintendo you are one ******* stupid bloody piece of ****. That’s right it is I, the legendary Dringo, he who can not be slain by Playstation and starves off the threat of the X-box who is saying this you proud ******. What the hell are you playing at? I’m a WESTERN NINTENDO FAN, I don’t get all those ******* titles from Japan with the words Giftipia or Animal Forest printed on the side. And the ones I do get, Doshin the ******* Giant, turns out to be a pile of utter toss.
Every time I spin some negative news article into a positive light but why? Who’s the idiot now ah? You cut second party ties with a certain Left Field, Left Field (NBA courtside and Excitebike 64) are your sports developer; they make your sports games. But oh look you don’t REALLY need them now SEGA has gone multi-format with their sports range. So remove them, who cares. Oh well look at that, less than a year later and SEGA cancel all their sports titles for the Gamecube. WOOPS! Now whom can you turn to? That’s right NO ONE, I have noticed you are now making your own mature sports games (the upcoming Legend of Golfer) but it’s too late.
Ah yes Nintendo, now onto Rare Ware. My previous status was that “they’re crap anyway” and that “they lost Nintendo money”. ********, you ARE dumb aren’t you Nintendo? Want to know why they didn’t make you much money in the year before you sold them? Because they didn’t ACTUALLY release any bloody games! Rare Ware are an unresponsive developer but they were your other half, they are more than Silicon Knights, Left Field, HAL etc... put together. They made Banjo, Conker, Killer Instinct, Donkey Kong and Perfect Dark… all of these are BIG Nintendo releases, well they would have been if you hadn’t ******* sold them! Look at this, your sales aren’t up to scratch! Could this be down to a certain absence of a company that made half your AAA titles? It nearly forced me away, but then that was okay, at least you have Retro Studios and Silicon Knights.
Oh Sympathy where have you gone.
First off you crush Retro Studio’s. A bit of a re-shuffle was needed, EAD’s help was appreciated on Metroid Prime. BUT did you really need to destroy the 4 teams that were there into 1? Raven Blade, that racer and that football game WAS exactly what Nintendo Gamecube lacks. A decent footy game, a decent exclusive racing title and a mature action RPG. But you cancelled them. Did you really have to scrap all those games?
And now modern day. The one that made me snap. I love Silicon Knights. True they are hardly a true example of Nintendo (prefer cinematic gameplay and adult games) but that was the point. Nintendo you’ve told me time and time again how you want to be more “adult” and Eternal Darkness and Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes are YOUR most mature games. And you cut ties with the company behind them? Too Human can now return to the PS2, which it was originally coded for, and you’ve lost yet another special western developer.
I know Nintendo. You have loads of second parties, some I never even knew about including that new sports developer SETA (ever heard of them? No neither have I). But Rare, Silicon Knights, the full Retro team and Left Field could have all pushed Nintendo in both Europe and America. You would have defeated Microsoft and competed more fiercely. But instead you try to get exclusives from other companies that simply do not sell. Capcom are having to cancel their plans to keep Viewtiful Joe and Killer 7 exclusive and cannot wait for the Resident Evil deal to expire. Namco are doing okay but that’s because they hardly support Nintendo as much as they support Sony. SEGA have been drifting away ever so slowly, remember the Virtual Fighter RPG and the sonic series were once exclusive to Nintendo. They are both now lost.
So tell me Nintendo, who do you have left to sell your product to the western world? You don’t have Rare, you don’t have Silicon Knights, you don’t have Left field. Christ you don’t even have Capcom anymore. And in fact you’ve even lost Dringo, your most avid supporter. Sure I love Zelda and Mario, but I’m a western gamer, I have western needs and the only western game you actually make is Metroid Prime, and I don’t even like it.
Maybe one day you’ll acquire some killer, high profile companies such as Capcom, Midway or Free Radical Design. But in the mean time I need to raise funds for an X-box. After all a western Nintendo fan needs his Rare.
Dringo.
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AfroJoe wrote:
> Hedfix wrote:
> Yes, there's a lot of Nintendo-tinted spectacles being worn in this
> thread.
>
> I'm sorry, but what do you expect? It's a Nintendo forum.
Yes, obviously, but some replies have been verging on the extreme.
> Hedfix wrote:
> Yes, there's a lot of Nintendo-tinted spectacles being worn in this
> thread.
>
> I'm sorry, but what do you expect? It's a Nintendo forum.
Yes, obviously, but some replies have been verging on the extreme.
Rickoss wrote:
> Nothing beats the N64, it's pure genius for multiplayer, but the Cube
> isn't that far behind, and certainly ahead of the Cube.
Hur hur.
> Nothing beats the N64, it's pure genius for multiplayer, but the Cube
> isn't that far behind, and certainly ahead of the Cube.
Hur hur.
I think multiplayer Double Dash is much better than multiplayer 64.
In fact I think it's a better game overall, except in the arenas for the Balloon battle MAYBe. But just because Wario Stadium was so excellent.
In fact I think it's a better game overall, except in the arenas for the Balloon battle MAYBe. But just because Wario Stadium was so excellent.
Granted the Cube isn't as good as the N64 when it coems to multiplayer, it's better than the XBox offline. My most-played games don't come close to equalling the amount of time I spent on Goldeneye, but Goldeneye's still probably the best multiplayer title ever.
The latest Mario Kart is easily better than 64 (despite not being quite as accessible) and we're beginning to see a whole new generation of multiplayer with Pac-Man vs. and FF:CC, to a lesser extent Final Fantasy.
Nothing beats the N64, it's pure genius for multiplayer, but the Cube isn't that far behind, and certainly ahead of the XBox.
edit: Mav... :-P
The latest Mario Kart is easily better than 64 (despite not being quite as accessible) and we're beginning to see a whole new generation of multiplayer with Pac-Man vs. and FF:CC, to a lesser extent Final Fantasy.
Nothing beats the N64, it's pure genius for multiplayer, but the Cube isn't that far behind, and certainly ahead of the XBox.
edit: Mav... :-P
Tiltawhirl wrote:
> There really isn't a single exclusive title on Cube that I can say I
> repeatedly came back too for multiplayer gaming. It was all short
> lived nonsense that showed nowhere near the charm or replayability of
> the N64 games.
I know what you mean. While TimeSplitters 2, Mario Kart: Double Dash!! and Super Monkey Ball 2 have offered fairly good multiplayers, I doubt I've played the three of them put together more than I played Goldeneye in the first month after it was released. The same goes for Mario Kart 64, Mario Tennis, Perfect Dark, and hell, maybe even Conker's Bad Fur Day.
The Gamecube does have some good multiplayer games, but lack of an online feature has really taken some of the potential depth of these titles. Goldeneye was so massively enjoyed by everyone because there was no competition at the time, and now Nintendo really just have to realise that people aren't going to buy games purely for multiplayer any more, even if they are Goldeneye-esque in quality, style and presentation. There needs to be an extra online feature to supply added depth and enjoyment to games like TimeSplitters 2 and Mario Kart.
And wouldn't Conflict Desert Storm totally kick nads with an online 8-player where you all worked as a team against a larger number of tougher, more well-positioned, intelligent enemies? Of course it would. Which is why Nintendo need online to entice more gamers.
> There really isn't a single exclusive title on Cube that I can say I
> repeatedly came back too for multiplayer gaming. It was all short
> lived nonsense that showed nowhere near the charm or replayability of
> the N64 games.
I know what you mean. While TimeSplitters 2, Mario Kart: Double Dash!! and Super Monkey Ball 2 have offered fairly good multiplayers, I doubt I've played the three of them put together more than I played Goldeneye in the first month after it was released. The same goes for Mario Kart 64, Mario Tennis, Perfect Dark, and hell, maybe even Conker's Bad Fur Day.
The Gamecube does have some good multiplayer games, but lack of an online feature has really taken some of the potential depth of these titles. Goldeneye was so massively enjoyed by everyone because there was no competition at the time, and now Nintendo really just have to realise that people aren't going to buy games purely for multiplayer any more, even if they are Goldeneye-esque in quality, style and presentation. There needs to be an extra online feature to supply added depth and enjoyment to games like TimeSplitters 2 and Mario Kart.
And wouldn't Conflict Desert Storm totally kick nads with an online 8-player where you all worked as a team against a larger number of tougher, more well-positioned, intelligent enemies? Of course it would. Which is why Nintendo need online to entice more gamers.
Hedfix wrote:
> Yes, there's a lot of Nintendo-tinted spectacles being worn in this
> thread.
I'm sorry, but what do you expect? It's a Nintendo forum.
> Yes, there's a lot of Nintendo-tinted spectacles being worn in this
> thread.
I'm sorry, but what do you expect? It's a Nintendo forum.
Dringo wrote:
> Next week Serious Sam: Next Encounter is released for the PS2 and
> Gamecube... 2 player co-operative and 4 player deathmatch. heaven. No
> fancy online gimmick, no clever GBA-GC link up idea. Just big guns, 3
> mates and a hell of a lot a beer.
Xbox has had Serious Sam for a well over a year now.
> Next week Serious Sam: Next Encounter is released for the PS2 and
> Gamecube... 2 player co-operative and 4 player deathmatch. heaven. No
> fancy online gimmick, no clever GBA-GC link up idea. Just big guns, 3
> mates and a hell of a lot a beer.
Xbox has had Serious Sam for a well over a year now.
If there's one area the Cube has really let me down it's multiplayer games. N64 was amazing for multiplayer, in comparrison the Cube sucks.
Where's my Goldeneye? where's my ISS 98? where's my WWF No Mercy? where's my Perfect Dark? where's my Mario Kart 64?
There really isn't a single exclusive title on Cube that I can say I repeatedly came back too for multiplayer gaming. It was all short lived nonsense that showed nowhere near the charm or replayability of the N64 games.
The Xbox isn't much better for offline mutliplayer, but it's definetly better.
Where's my Goldeneye? where's my ISS 98? where's my WWF No Mercy? where's my Perfect Dark? where's my Mario Kart 64?
There really isn't a single exclusive title on Cube that I can say I repeatedly came back too for multiplayer gaming. It was all short lived nonsense that showed nowhere near the charm or replayability of the N64 games.
The Xbox isn't much better for offline mutliplayer, but it's definetly better.
Hedfix wrote:
> Actually I'd say they'd be about equal. Which one's going to come
> sooner though? Oh THAT'D be Halo 2 on Live then...
There already is 16 player Mario Kart you uneducated mong.
Nintendo sum up their ability to be fun with the concept of Party games. Multiplayer games can now contain such a wide scope of possible gaming techniques.
There are split screen deathmatches, co-operative and online to name but a few.
Nintendonline would rule, and we know it, you know it. As great as Microsoft are when Nintendo do lunge into Online gaming it'll be most likely Free and no Doom, Half life or Halo would distract me from the concept of Monkey Ball, Super Smash Brothers Melee or Mario Kart, online. Nintendo do make the best party games ever, Mario Party, Golf, SMB, Tennis, Golf, Pacman Vs. etc... etc...
But they also play with other forms of multiplayer, the ingenious Final Fantasy Crystal chronicles, the entire Pokemon craze. It is good to play together, it is also why I don't like online gaming because it isn't good to play apart.
Next week Serious Sam: Next Encounter is released for the PS2 and Gamecube... 2 player co-operative and 4 player deathmatch. heaven. No fancy online gimmick, no clever GBA-GC link up idea. Just big guns, 3 mates and a hell of a lot a beer.
That is what gaming is all about.
> Actually I'd say they'd be about equal. Which one's going to come
> sooner though? Oh THAT'D be Halo 2 on Live then...
There already is 16 player Mario Kart you uneducated mong.
Nintendo sum up their ability to be fun with the concept of Party games. Multiplayer games can now contain such a wide scope of possible gaming techniques.
There are split screen deathmatches, co-operative and online to name but a few.
Nintendonline would rule, and we know it, you know it. As great as Microsoft are when Nintendo do lunge into Online gaming it'll be most likely Free and no Doom, Half life or Halo would distract me from the concept of Monkey Ball, Super Smash Brothers Melee or Mario Kart, online. Nintendo do make the best party games ever, Mario Party, Golf, SMB, Tennis, Golf, Pacman Vs. etc... etc...
But they also play with other forms of multiplayer, the ingenious Final Fantasy Crystal chronicles, the entire Pokemon craze. It is good to play together, it is also why I don't like online gaming because it isn't good to play apart.
Next week Serious Sam: Next Encounter is released for the PS2 and Gamecube... 2 player co-operative and 4 player deathmatch. heaven. No fancy online gimmick, no clever GBA-GC link up idea. Just big guns, 3 mates and a hell of a lot a beer.
That is what gaming is all about.
Mav wrote:
> Hedfix wrote:
> and like I said, the exclusives I had got old quicly and the
> mulitformat ones are better either because of the HD or the Xbox
> extras.
>
> To be fair, a fair few decent multi-format multiplayer titles are
> best on the GameCube. TimeSplitters 2 for the four-player option, R:
> Racing for the superb Pacman Vs., Soul Calibur 2 for the best secret
> character and control set-up and others. I accept multi-format
> titles, on the whole, tend to be better on Xbox but the
> generalisation has its exceptions - especially with multiplayer
> orientated titles.
The EA games for the GBA-GC connectivity.
Phantasy Star Online for the extras.
Sonic Heroes...
There are a few exceptions of the rule.
> Hedfix wrote:
> and like I said, the exclusives I had got old quicly and the
> mulitformat ones are better either because of the HD or the Xbox
> extras.
>
> To be fair, a fair few decent multi-format multiplayer titles are
> best on the GameCube. TimeSplitters 2 for the four-player option, R:
> Racing for the superb Pacman Vs., Soul Calibur 2 for the best secret
> character and control set-up and others. I accept multi-format
> titles, on the whole, tend to be better on Xbox but the
> generalisation has its exceptions - especially with multiplayer
> orientated titles.
The EA games for the GBA-GC connectivity.
Phantasy Star Online for the extras.
Sonic Heroes...
There are a few exceptions of the rule.
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