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Remember when we all start out on the forums. We sat there and go "the future of gaming are VR machines". Yeah.... errr no. We know full well that they are just so many many many years away. Even after our life time perhaps.
But Nintendo knew the future is in trouble. Games machines are forever technically going forward. But not for much longer. Games are becoming more photo-realistic, even today's X-box, PS2 and Gamecube are possibly good enough. But the PS3, Xenon and N5 truly will be the final nail in console progressions coffin. So what next?
Well although consoles will struggle to go forward, that isn't strictly the case for handheld gaming.
That's when Sony went, "s**t, Nintendo can actually win this thing!"
You see after the N5 Nintendo can rest on the Gameboy. A franchise that can at last display as good graphics as home formats. The N-Gage and up-coming PSP prove it. With a small connection to the TV and you have a home console/handheld combo. Multiplayer will almost be totally done by online play... Gaming as we know it has changed.
So Sony have to enter the handheld market. Start to knock away some of Nintendo's monopoly. After all there is no guarentee Sony can beat Nintendo again. After all they are ready this time. But have Sony got it wrong?
The PSP is a brilliant piece of kit, MP3 player and video player combo. Genius idea. Plus the £200 price point proves this is an expensive gadget for the adults. Now tell me people, how many adults do you see with Gameboys?
According to Nintendo, with their new plan to see Gameboy to adults (with the SP), a few more than before. But Nintendo will still admitt, the Gameboy sells to children and hardcore gamers. Adults are few and far between. But Sony are different, for starters Playstation is a multi-million selling brand and all these extras are sure to tickle adult gamers fancy. A bit like Nokia, I mean with their brand name and a load of cool extras they would sure make a million selling handheld system...
Oh wait.
Well I'm sure with CD lasers and in built memory to store game data and MP3 abilities will not damage battery life at all. Well maybe, not that it matters I mean battery life doesn't affect the success of a handheld console at all. Just ask SEGA. Oh wait. Well that doesn't matter, it looks so cool with top graphics. They'll get a head start over Nintendo for sure, I mean it's not as if Nintendo plan to launch a handheld system just before the PSP. Oh wait. Well come on, Nintendo haven't learnt anything, I mean the SNES was just as popular as the GAmeboy franchise. Oh wait.
Yes from my standpoint I'm supposed to see it like this. But I'm also a casual consumer, despite the PSP looking hotter than Elisha Cutherbert I can't see a flock of eager people to buy this £200 handheld system. Not even I'd go for it, It's like those PALM computer thingy's, damn they are cool... but there is no way I'd ever get one.
Nintendo are not as stupid as they look. As the Gameboy starts to flag they buy into Pokemon and release a colour edition. Moments before Pokemon started to slide the GBA was launched. As Children became the main consumer of the product Nintendo released an adult edition. The SP. More expensive but damn cooler. Come the PSP launch the SP will suffer a long overdue but very good price cut. The PSP will be facing off against the words most popular console, both the adult SP and the normal childrens edition... at a fraction of the PSP's price.
Not to mention the fact that Nintendo are also getting a head start over the PSP with their own new fangled hand held device the DS. The DS could fail, but the idea could be cool enough to win over gamers hearts.
Sony are not going to walk over Nintendo this time. Nintendo are making sure of it. With a war going on between the DS and PSP for advertisement space you know the GBA will quietly move on by as the biggest selling system still. You just know, like Atari, like SEGA, Like Nokia... Sony could well be the next victim to the handheld massacure. Sure unlike those 3 Sony are a bigger threat. But, Nintendo are actually putting together a defence system this time... they've never done that before.
If the PSP falls will that be the end of the fear that Nintendo will falter? Yes. Nintendo will continue with their handheld dominance, and when and if they are finally forced out of the home console market... the power between the 2 divisions will be so minute... none of us will care.
Dringo - fanboy till the end.
But Nintendo knew the future is in trouble. Games machines are forever technically going forward. But not for much longer. Games are becoming more photo-realistic, even today's X-box, PS2 and Gamecube are possibly good enough. But the PS3, Xenon and N5 truly will be the final nail in console progressions coffin. So what next?
Well although consoles will struggle to go forward, that isn't strictly the case for handheld gaming.
That's when Sony went, "s**t, Nintendo can actually win this thing!"
You see after the N5 Nintendo can rest on the Gameboy. A franchise that can at last display as good graphics as home formats. The N-Gage and up-coming PSP prove it. With a small connection to the TV and you have a home console/handheld combo. Multiplayer will almost be totally done by online play... Gaming as we know it has changed.
So Sony have to enter the handheld market. Start to knock away some of Nintendo's monopoly. After all there is no guarentee Sony can beat Nintendo again. After all they are ready this time. But have Sony got it wrong?
The PSP is a brilliant piece of kit, MP3 player and video player combo. Genius idea. Plus the £200 price point proves this is an expensive gadget for the adults. Now tell me people, how many adults do you see with Gameboys?
According to Nintendo, with their new plan to see Gameboy to adults (with the SP), a few more than before. But Nintendo will still admitt, the Gameboy sells to children and hardcore gamers. Adults are few and far between. But Sony are different, for starters Playstation is a multi-million selling brand and all these extras are sure to tickle adult gamers fancy. A bit like Nokia, I mean with their brand name and a load of cool extras they would sure make a million selling handheld system...
Oh wait.
Well I'm sure with CD lasers and in built memory to store game data and MP3 abilities will not damage battery life at all. Well maybe, not that it matters I mean battery life doesn't affect the success of a handheld console at all. Just ask SEGA. Oh wait. Well that doesn't matter, it looks so cool with top graphics. They'll get a head start over Nintendo for sure, I mean it's not as if Nintendo plan to launch a handheld system just before the PSP. Oh wait. Well come on, Nintendo haven't learnt anything, I mean the SNES was just as popular as the GAmeboy franchise. Oh wait.
Yes from my standpoint I'm supposed to see it like this. But I'm also a casual consumer, despite the PSP looking hotter than Elisha Cutherbert I can't see a flock of eager people to buy this £200 handheld system. Not even I'd go for it, It's like those PALM computer thingy's, damn they are cool... but there is no way I'd ever get one.
Nintendo are not as stupid as they look. As the Gameboy starts to flag they buy into Pokemon and release a colour edition. Moments before Pokemon started to slide the GBA was launched. As Children became the main consumer of the product Nintendo released an adult edition. The SP. More expensive but damn cooler. Come the PSP launch the SP will suffer a long overdue but very good price cut. The PSP will be facing off against the words most popular console, both the adult SP and the normal childrens edition... at a fraction of the PSP's price.
Not to mention the fact that Nintendo are also getting a head start over the PSP with their own new fangled hand held device the DS. The DS could fail, but the idea could be cool enough to win over gamers hearts.
Sony are not going to walk over Nintendo this time. Nintendo are making sure of it. With a war going on between the DS and PSP for advertisement space you know the GBA will quietly move on by as the biggest selling system still. You just know, like Atari, like SEGA, Like Nokia... Sony could well be the next victim to the handheld massacure. Sure unlike those 3 Sony are a bigger threat. But, Nintendo are actually putting together a defence system this time... they've never done that before.
If the PSP falls will that be the end of the fear that Nintendo will falter? Yes. Nintendo will continue with their handheld dominance, and when and if they are finally forced out of the home console market... the power between the 2 divisions will be so minute... none of us will care.
Dringo - fanboy till the end.
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Why did he go?
Memorandum! wrote:
> If only WS was still here.
Totally agree.
> If only WS was still here.
Totally agree.
I wish WS was still here as well.
That would have been great.
That would have been great.
gerrid wrote:
> You agree with him, despite the fact that it contradicts what you said
> earlier?
I said he makes some good points, the main one being that the PS2 is hard for companies with no experience, low budgets and little publisher backing.
It's not as simple as saying they don't like it, just that it doesn't suit small companies making decent games easily, and the overall standard of games on average is lower on the PS2 is worse because of it.
These things are usually due ot publishers forcing the release of projects and trying to get games made as cheaply as possible. This is why I feel XNA will be ultimately successful.
So, I don't agree that developers dont like the PS2, just that they would like the leading platform in the industry to be easier to make games for :D
With no evidence to back up either side of the argumane tin solid form though, it's difficult to disagree, or discuss such topics with someone who has put forward the other side of the discussion so well.
Neither of us could say the other was wrong, neither could claim to be right, and both opinions are equally valid :D
> You agree with him, despite the fact that it contradicts what you said
> earlier?
I said he makes some good points, the main one being that the PS2 is hard for companies with no experience, low budgets and little publisher backing.
It's not as simple as saying they don't like it, just that it doesn't suit small companies making decent games easily, and the overall standard of games on average is lower on the PS2 is worse because of it.
These things are usually due ot publishers forcing the release of projects and trying to get games made as cheaply as possible. This is why I feel XNA will be ultimately successful.
So, I don't agree that developers dont like the PS2, just that they would like the leading platform in the industry to be easier to make games for :D
With no evidence to back up either side of the argumane tin solid form though, it's difficult to disagree, or discuss such topics with someone who has put forward the other side of the discussion so well.
Neither of us could say the other was wrong, neither could claim to be right, and both opinions are equally valid :D
If only WS was still here.
Bonus wrote:
> No one has a sense of humour unless it's a swear word, that seems to
> make people giggle, maybe it's just the average age of the forums
> that's dropped.
I'm afraid that you are incorrect
> No one has a sense of humour unless it's a swear word, that seems to
> make people giggle, maybe it's just the average age of the forums
> that's dropped.
I'm afraid that you are incorrect
You agree with him, despite the fact that it contradicts what you said earlier?
gerrid wrote:
> Bonus wrote:
> Oh, and don't pick intellectual fights with people who really
> don't
> care :D
>
> I wish you knew how you sounded.
It doesn;t really matter, just winding up some people, it used to be called funny, but it seems lost in here now.
No one has a sense of humour unless it's a swear word, that seems to make people giggle, maybe it's just the average age of the forums that's dropped.
> Bonus wrote:
> Oh, and don't pick intellectual fights with people who really
> don't
> care :D
>
> I wish you knew how you sounded.
It doesn;t really matter, just winding up some people, it used to be called funny, but it seems lost in here now.
No one has a sense of humour unless it's a swear word, that seems to make people giggle, maybe it's just the average age of the forums that's dropped.
gerrid wrote:
> So, Bonus, did you read Safedisc_V3's post?
I did, and don't really agree with everything he has to say, but he makes some good points :D
That sort of converstation would be lost on you, however :D
> So, Bonus, did you read Safedisc_V3's post?
I did, and don't really agree with everything he has to say, but he makes some good points :D
That sort of converstation would be lost on you, however :D
Bonus wrote:
> Well, if the best you can come up with is "I heard Bonus Like
> Little Boys" when I'm winding someone up, you should do
> something to engage the brain :D
I don't recall randomly capitalising the majority of the words in that sentence.
> Well, if the best you can come up with is "I heard Bonus Like
> Little Boys" when I'm winding someone up, you should do
> something to engage the brain :D
I don't recall randomly capitalising the majority of the words in that sentence.
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