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Tue 11/05/04 at 14:14
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Whilst rumours fly around that these are fake pictures, I think there is a good chance that they could be real. And if they are real...is it just me or does it look a tad on the ugly side?

I'll reserve judgement until an official press release...
Thu 13/05/04 at 17:22
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Then why bother owning one at all if you aren't interested in portable gaming? Sure, there will be good games, but if you don't use the portability of the DS or GBA etc then just get real grown up versions on the GC.
Thu 13/05/04 at 17:21
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I wasn't talking globally, and in the end, it's me who will be playing my DS, so for me, portability isn't something that appeals a whole lot. I wouldn't be comfortable taking a gameboy out on the streets and playing it, and lots of other people would feel the same I'm sure.

Maybe I'm wrong, and I might very well be, but that is my experience with portable gaming.
Thu 13/05/04 at 17:18
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And I've lived there too, and I saw folk. If you look around more closely you might see people. When I was at uni it was Gameboys and Game Gears (and the occasional Lynx) that people played during maths lectures.

I see people play GBA SPs on the bus and underground fairly often, even more so on flights.

Not to mention kids playing them everywhere all the time.
Thu 13/05/04 at 17:18
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Exactly, you can't determine how the public globally will use the PSP or DS based just on your experiences at home.
Thu 13/05/04 at 17:16
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I live in London and I have for 17+ years, and I don't recall ever seeing anyone playing on a GameBoy in public.

Obviously I'm judging by my own experiences here, but I know plenty of people who would feel the exact same way as me. Like I said, it depends on where you live, but I live in the most densely populated part of the country.
Thu 13/05/04 at 17:12
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gerrid wrote:

> You misunderstand the entire concept here. People don't play games in
> public. When do you ever see people playing Gameboys?

I did a few years back, more so with GBA nowadays, with the exception that the audience I have noticed is older.

> You will not suddenly start getting on buses and trains and see
> people playing GT4 or Metroid on their new handheld. I'm sorry if you
> think this, but it's just not going to happen.

Not on buses because of the potential crime (though I've seen one person play on his GBA on the bus before), but on trains and aircraft, yes. I've also seen people play on their handheld consoles in lecture theatres, restaurants and cafes.
Thu 13/05/04 at 17:06
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Bonus wrote:
> The point of having a handheld is to then play the game at home? You
> guys are getting a bit confusing, that's like saying that you'd
> rather watch a 6" portable TV than a 28" Widescreen.
>
> Granted people do play them at home, and there's nothing wrong with
> that, but to say you would never take advantage of it's portability
> seems plane crazy.

You misunderstand the entire concept here. People don't play games in public. When do you ever see people playing Gameboys? It's the most popular and abundant console in the world, and it's portable, but you never see people playing them. Why? Why is that? What makes you think that the PSP will change this?

You will not suddenly start getting on buses and trains and see people playing GT4 or Metroid on their new handheld. I'm sorry if you think this, but it's just not going to happen. By all means, you can say that you will play your PSP on the way to work, but I doubt that you will. You'll most likely end up playing it at home, even though you've got a 28" widescreen in the corner.

This is just how the handheld market works in this country. If we lived in Japan, it would be different, but we don't. There is a stigma attached to public gaming, and not even the word Playstation will change that.

The thing is, most people would be too worried about looking stupid, or more likely, worried about getting their 100+ hardware stolen by some thug with a knife who follows you off the bus. Obviously it depends on where you live, but it is certainly the case in most cities that sensible people don't show off expensive things to potential thieves.

> you guys are showing
> unbelievable blind faith by proclaiming the system the way you do
> with the same lack of facts.

I am not proclaiming any system - I'm just showing you that you shouldn't write off a system (which is what you were doing, even if you've changed your stance now). To me, a PSP doesn't sound interesting. A Playstation Portable. The Playstation didn't interest me. Why would a portable one be any different?

To you the DS doesn't sound interesting. That's fine, I'm just being optimistic. Why focus on the things that you think the system CAN'T do, rather than focusing on what it MIGHT do. Obviously thinking of what it 'might' do requires a little imagination, and a little faith. But I have faith, and if you don't then that's up to you, but I think you'll find that most people do have some.

You may think that it seems a little contradictory to write off the portability of handhelds before telling you not to write them off, but I have more faith in developers than in consumers. It's a given that public use of new gaming systems is not actually a realistic feature, no matter how good the console, and it's nothing to do with DS vs PSP, or anything like that.
Thu 13/05/04 at 17:01
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Tiltawhirl wrote:
> Bonus wrote:
>
> Ninetndo fans will love the DS, no one else.
>
> Is that why GBA is the second highest selling console?
>
> Jeez, you're just full of crap tonight.

Very few people in my Sixth Form, own a Nintendo Console, (Cube or GBA) but when they (the males) saw the Nintendo DS, they were amazed! They loved it! All the features etc. Even my PS2 owning fanboy mates loved it! I was really quite surprised, and i get the idea that they will be turned on their negative stances towards the Gamecube, what with the upcoming line up of games.
Thu 13/05/04 at 16:54
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hm. The suspected battery life of the PSP looks dauntingly like the Gamegear problem. Great system, but will the battery hold it up?

As for the DS. Well, it may not have the umph of the PSP, but look at what the N64 could do, and who could tell on a screen as small as that? Most 3D games would be completely possible, including something similar to GTA3.

With the backward compatibility and Nintendo's games, it's pretty much assured me that one will be in my pocket soon.

But the big question is....will it be the first Ninty handheld to be region coded? Hopefully not.
Thu 13/05/04 at 06:56
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Just one more point. DS can play GBA games right? That means that it can use the mp3 cart and that video player. That way; Nintendo gives gamers a choice if they want to spend more money on their machine or not. I think that someone made a camera for the gba, but I think that that was Japan only.

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