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Just imagine, what if Sony and Nintendo united with each other ? This would be the coolest thing ever ! First of all we'd have the best console ever from every prespective, and we wouldn't have to worry about exclusive games, we would be playing The Legend Of Zelda, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear And Gran Turismo games on the same console! And there might be some of the best hybrid games ever like a "Link" Final Fantasy or a"Jak+Mario" action platformer. There would be also some of the best multiplayer games ever. More companies would support both companies. They would expand, and there would be a major amount of publicity.Microsoft would be more likely to give up the video games industry, and if there was a back compatibility, people would know what they were missing. Better production teams will be established, making use of the experience of both companies.The funds will increase providing a better chance for creating better games. Third oarty comapanies wouldn't have to worry about games that don't sell, like what happens to some gamecube games (remember the timesplitters 2 sales on the gamecube?). And also, if they succeed together, The Video games industry will expand in a small amount of time, and probably will become one of the most profitable industries in the world, and if they really really succeed and the sales would really hit the top, they would have enough funds to actually create a special cable network similar to the internet dedicated for gaming that would have much less cost than broadband, and giving the chance for the greatest number of gamers to play with each other all over the world, and playing muliplayer games would become a great challange (Hey, CNN originally started as a pure cable network) and if we even dream further more we could imagine a ceremony that would be held every year where every console owner in the world would be playing the same game at the same round at the same time all together, it could be a war game where there would be different squads : Marines, pilots, Divers, people who drive tanks, etc.., they could make it an actually realistic world war game where every soldier is controlled by a player!
But actually we live in the real world, and these are just dreams that will never come true, because those greedy developers only care about collecting money for themselves, and they wouldn't share it.
But actually we live in the real world, and these are just dreams that will never come true, because those greedy developers only care about collecting money for themselves, and they wouldn't share it.
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True.
But casual gamers are still humans - all they need is to be told what to do. FIFA is shoved in their faces at every turn, and as it is, to be fair, a nicely playable game, they'll love it. They won't like a blatently rubbish game, however.
If Nintendo keep making good games, with new ways to play rather than focusing on graphics, then it's bound to attract new people.
But casual gamers are still humans - all they need is to be told what to do. FIFA is shoved in their faces at every turn, and as it is, to be fair, a nicely playable game, they'll love it. They won't like a blatently rubbish game, however.
If Nintendo keep making good games, with new ways to play rather than focusing on graphics, then it's bound to attract new people.
Mav wrote:
> Sony are ahead of Nintendo simply because of Ninty's mistake in using
> cartridges for the N64, and the two year difference between the
> release of the PS2 and GameCube.
>
> Nintendo make the best games and with a good release date for the N5,
> they should attain an even stronger hold in the market.
Yes, I admit that. Final Fantasy 7, the game which started all this, was supposed to be released for N64, but because of using cartridge, it was released on Sony's console. And they released it in 1997. That's the year when ps1 was released in Egypt.But yet, we have to admit something else: This is what happened and we can't change it. Sony has already gone popular. Maybe this will change in the future as you have mentioned, but what's currently happening is that Sony are the successful ones. And that was the idea of the whole thread, that both companies have the best qualities, and merging would be useful.
> Sony are ahead of Nintendo simply because of Ninty's mistake in using
> cartridges for the N64, and the two year difference between the
> release of the PS2 and GameCube.
>
> Nintendo make the best games and with a good release date for the N5,
> they should attain an even stronger hold in the market.
Yes, I admit that. Final Fantasy 7, the game which started all this, was supposed to be released for N64, but because of using cartridge, it was released on Sony's console. And they released it in 1997. That's the year when ps1 was released in Egypt.But yet, we have to admit something else: This is what happened and we can't change it. Sony has already gone popular. Maybe this will change in the future as you have mentioned, but what's currently happening is that Sony are the successful ones. And that was the idea of the whole thread, that both companies have the best qualities, and merging would be useful.
But why?
Sony are popular, as we have established, because of helpful circumstances.
Now with three players, Nintendo have more of a chance than ever to beat Sony and rise to the top.
Sony are popular, as we have established, because of helpful circumstances.
Now with three players, Nintendo have more of a chance than ever to beat Sony and rise to the top.
Rik Rik Rikety Rik.
Mav wrote:
> Now with three players, Nintendo have more of a chance than ever to
> beat Sony and rise to the top.
However, Microsoft are more likely to rise to the top in the next generation than either of these two, because it will be very difficult for a developer to make a bad looking game using the XNA development environment.
It will offer pre programmed code module swhich can be dropped directly into companies games without any hassle. XNA will be expanded and developed by the hardware manufacturers and games developers together over time, and advances in coding practise could be shared amongst developers to make the target platform stronger.
This will lead to PC and Xbox 2 game being interconnectable in online arenas, and will see PC users allowed to subscribe to Xbox Live.
Now that EA are onboard with Live, and Square indicating that they will be willing to take a deal similar to EAs to bring PlayOnline to Live with FFXI, Microsoft are poised to make a massive impact on the next generation of consoles, whereas Nintendo will have another remake of Zelda, another Mario, another Mario Kart and another Pikmin with the likelyhood of only one brand new franchise.
> Now with three players, Nintendo have more of a chance than ever to
> beat Sony and rise to the top.
However, Microsoft are more likely to rise to the top in the next generation than either of these two, because it will be very difficult for a developer to make a bad looking game using the XNA development environment.
It will offer pre programmed code module swhich can be dropped directly into companies games without any hassle. XNA will be expanded and developed by the hardware manufacturers and games developers together over time, and advances in coding practise could be shared amongst developers to make the target platform stronger.
This will lead to PC and Xbox 2 game being interconnectable in online arenas, and will see PC users allowed to subscribe to Xbox Live.
Now that EA are onboard with Live, and Square indicating that they will be willing to take a deal similar to EAs to bring PlayOnline to Live with FFXI, Microsoft are poised to make a massive impact on the next generation of consoles, whereas Nintendo will have another remake of Zelda, another Mario, another Mario Kart and another Pikmin with the likelyhood of only one brand new franchise.
And these Mario's Zelda's and Pikinmin's are what keeps gamers coming back, you know , it it wasn't for the metal gear series and the Final Fantasy series, I would've dumped gaming all together. Online gaming is important, but there are certain titles that actually control the gaming mareket, these are the likes of Zelda, metal gear, mario, halo, ff, you know, top games, and non of them is a top game because it's online.
I see what you're saying, but you refuse to consider any of Nintendo's stronger points.
With the exception of the N64, Nintendo have always created consoles that are more developer friendly than any other. XNA may look promising but from their previous record, Nintendo are very likely to come up with something just as good. They've also been a driving force in the industry with regards to hardware, and all it takes is a look at the developer's opinions on the DS to prove they can still excite the third parties.
Microsoft have few major, exclusive franchises (with the exception of Halo) and will make lots of deals with third parties for the next generation. Nintendo have loads of franchises, and constantly creating new, innovative ones and will also garner much third party support for the N5. Thus, in terms of games, Nintendo have the upper hand.
While MS may concentrate on improving graphics, Nintendo will provide the real originality in the next generation of hardware, as promised. This is what excites the developers and gamers - not fancy new graphics (although it has been said that the N5 will still be a technical competitor).
With the exception of the N64, Nintendo have always created consoles that are more developer friendly than any other. XNA may look promising but from their previous record, Nintendo are very likely to come up with something just as good. They've also been a driving force in the industry with regards to hardware, and all it takes is a look at the developer's opinions on the DS to prove they can still excite the third parties.
Microsoft have few major, exclusive franchises (with the exception of Halo) and will make lots of deals with third parties for the next generation. Nintendo have loads of franchises, and constantly creating new, innovative ones and will also garner much third party support for the N5. Thus, in terms of games, Nintendo have the upper hand.
While MS may concentrate on improving graphics, Nintendo will provide the real originality in the next generation of hardware, as promised. This is what excites the developers and gamers - not fancy new graphics (although it has been said that the N5 will still be a technical competitor).
Rare are about to kick into gear for Microsoft, that will be quite a big deal.
In gaming terms the Xbox has quite a lot of really good games which aren't on any other platform, and E3 has shown a wealth of games which will make the console even more desirable.
The Xbox also has the best games on offer on the other two platforms.
The PS2 has quite a lot of exclusive games, but the average quality of a PS2 title isn't all that high.
Nintendo have Nintendo games, and Resi, but, not very much else in the way of Top Quality exclusives, even Viewtiful Joe is PS2 bound. I don't need to argue the point about Nintendo's initial run of Gamecube games weren't very good. Nintendo know this, said so at E3 and have told the gaming community that they have taken steps to ensure that their next round of games are better, we can only hope this is true.
In gaming terms the Xbox has quite a lot of really good games which aren't on any other platform, and E3 has shown a wealth of games which will make the console even more desirable.
The Xbox also has the best games on offer on the other two platforms.
The PS2 has quite a lot of exclusive games, but the average quality of a PS2 title isn't all that high.
Nintendo have Nintendo games, and Resi, but, not very much else in the way of Top Quality exclusives, even Viewtiful Joe is PS2 bound. I don't need to argue the point about Nintendo's initial run of Gamecube games weren't very good. Nintendo know this, said so at E3 and have told the gaming community that they have taken steps to ensure that their next round of games are better, we can only hope this is true.
On a side note, Ninty is Japan's number 1 games producer by far. Not even taking into account Pokémon games, which are labled under a different company now.
Bonus wrote:
> The Xbox also has the best games on offer on the other two
> platforms.
>
> The PS2 has quite a lot of exclusive games, but the average quality
> of a PS2 title isn't all that high.
Hi, I thought I'd back your statements up with some figures sourced from gamerankings.com:
Average Main Score of the Top 100 PS2 Games: 86.431%
Average Main Score of the top 100 XBox Games: 84.617%
No. of PS2 vs XBox Games scoring 95% or better: 3 vs 1
No. of PS2 vs XBox Games scoring 90% or better: 29 vs 15
No. of PS2 vs XBox Games scoring 85% or better: 83 vs 62
No. of PS2 vs XBox Games scoring 80% or better: 180 vs 121
Lowest ever recorded score for an XBox Game: 21.3%
Lowest ever recorded score for a PS2 Game: 31.5
No. of PS2 games scoring less than 40%: 11
No. of XBox games scoring less than 40%: 15
> The Xbox also has the best games on offer on the other two
> platforms.
>
> The PS2 has quite a lot of exclusive games, but the average quality
> of a PS2 title isn't all that high.
Hi, I thought I'd back your statements up with some figures sourced from gamerankings.com:
Average Main Score of the Top 100 PS2 Games: 86.431%
Average Main Score of the top 100 XBox Games: 84.617%
No. of PS2 vs XBox Games scoring 95% or better: 3 vs 1
No. of PS2 vs XBox Games scoring 90% or better: 29 vs 15
No. of PS2 vs XBox Games scoring 85% or better: 83 vs 62
No. of PS2 vs XBox Games scoring 80% or better: 180 vs 121
Lowest ever recorded score for an XBox Game: 21.3%
Lowest ever recorded score for a PS2 Game: 31.5
No. of PS2 games scoring less than 40%: 11
No. of XBox games scoring less than 40%: 15
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