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"Ninja Gaiden - Good and bad"

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Sun 16/05/04 at 22:51
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"Infantalised Forums"
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Got it on Friday.

It's good because ninjas are good. It's innately cool to do ninja stuff, and unless your name is Sho Kosugi, it's unlikely you can actually do that stuff for real.
It's bad because, for all the excellent graphics, awesome speed etc, it relies on that creaking cliche of end-of-level bosses.
I mean really, in an age where you have soft-physics systems in Splinter Cell 2 and independant AI in Half-Life 2, must we still be forced to drudge through that ancient game-stretch technique of making you face multiple Bosses?

Throw yourself at it until you realise the weakspot.
*yawn*
I prefer games where, if your skillfull and observant enough, you can make it through and feel like you're participating and actually controlling what's happening.

Ninja Gaiden?
Checkpoint reach - FMV - Boss.
SMASHPUNCHKICKSTAB
Dead
Restart
SMASHPUNCHKICKSTAB
Dead
Restart
SMASHPUNCHKICKSTAB
Dead
Turn off and smoke several cigarettes to calm down and stop yourself from putting the controller through the tv
Return to game
SMASHPUNCHKICKSTAB
Dead
Restart
SMASHPUNCHKICKSTAB
Dead
Restart
SMASHPUNCHKICKSTAB
Defeat Boss
Continue

2004. Half-Life 2, Doom 3, mobile camera phones, internet, txt messaging.
Good things that have progressed since 1980 when video games were dull and bosses were prolific.
Ninja Gaiden - ninja excellence, cool weapons, awesome graphics.
End of Level Boss.
They're as cheesy cliche as ladder-death in FPS and bugs too small to shoot.
Why?
And whilst I'm fuming about bosses, the other thing that's boiled my blood about this game?

LET ME SAVE WHEN I'VE DONE AN IMPOSSIBLY HARD BIT
Don't give me set-save points that means when I die (and you will, continously), I don't have to redo huge portions of a level.
I'm thinking specifically about the first time you reach the Vigoor capital.
You have to fight large groups of black ninja (ridiculously hard), regular enemies and ever-oncoming foes.
With not a single save point. Not one. Anywhere.
A level that takes 10 mins once you know where to go and what to do.
And not one solitary point at which to save your game.

What kind of retarded level designed came up with that idea?
"Oooh oooh, I know! The first time the player encounters Black Ninjas with exploding stuff and impossibly fast attacks...let's not give them a save point anywhere!!!!"
"Cool! That'll frustrate them beyond bloodboiling!"
"Yeah! Let's have the player fight these new foes 3 times in a level with no saves! And only 2 health potions to collect!!!"
"nice one!!!!!"

It's a good game, but for me the lack of saving after I've done a really hard bit (of which there are many) makes it a tedious thing to plow through level sections again and again and again and again and again.

Feel free to preen like acne-stricken peacocks and brag about "Well I did it with no problems so it must be you then", it's nothing to boast about that your hand-to-glans combat skills enable you to have pointdexter levels of accuracy.
Mon 17/05/04 at 21:14
"Majestic"
Posts: 1,625
Presedenté Nash wrote:
> DiscoDexy wrote:
> I don't care what he wrote, dammit! I've got a question.
>
> Why do you keep on winning GAD all the time? You win it at least
> every 20 days. Who'd you sleep with?

What, eh? I think your putting words in my mouth there.

And as for your: Why do you keep winning GAD all the time. The answer is plain and simple: Cause i Can.
Mon 17/05/04 at 21:15
Regular
"Teal'c"
Posts: 3,617
Are you stupid? I'm thinking yes.
Mon 17/05/04 at 21:16
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": ("
Posts: 5,614
Finally, someone proves Nash wrong.

I kind of hate Nash and its his fault.
Mon 17/05/04 at 21:17
"Majestic"
Posts: 1,625
Bit of a rapid response. Have you being hitting F5 since 5?
Mon 17/05/04 at 21:19
Regular
": ("
Posts: 5,614
I've always felt like this, he has never said anything nice to me, he always moans.
Mon 17/05/04 at 21:20
"Majestic"
Posts: 1,625
DiscoDexy wrote:
> Bit of a rapid response. Have you being hitting F5 since 5?

For the record, it wasnt aimed at you. It was aimed at Happy Nash, in the corner there.
Mon 17/05/04 at 21:20
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Posts: 10,489
Stridman get back in your cage you crippled beaver flap.

As for Nash, I fail to see what he has supposedly done.
Mon 17/05/04 at 21:23
"Majestic"
Posts: 1,625
ÂLŠ†ÂÎR wrote:
> As for Nash, I fail to see what he has supposedly done.

He's done nothing wrong, he asked a question a gave a answer. Simple as the people on Family Fortunes.

Who let stridman out anyway?
Mon 17/05/04 at 21:25
Regular
"Teal'c"
Posts: 3,617
The Stridman™ wrote:
> Finally, someone proves Nash wrong.

Hmmm. It's this kind of idiocy that really makes me question over whether you actually exist.

Who's proved me wrong? Where, idiot-boy, where? Point it out to me, for I am failing to see.
Come on eel-brain.
Show me.


DiscoDexy wrote:
> Bit of a rapid response. Have you being hitting F5 since 5?

Hmmm, no. Actually, for the record, I wasn't actually having a go at you my boy.

Edit-O. Well not in the original post anyway. I was in the second post, but that's only because you'd obviously failed to understand what I meant by the post. Either you did or I did anyway. I just thought a comment like "cause i Can" indicated you were retaliating to an offensive comment.
Mon 17/05/04 at 21:27
"Majestic"
Posts: 1,625
Presedenté Nash wrote:
> Hmmm, no. Actually, for the record, I wasn't actually having a go at
> you my boy.

Well thats good then, because i wasnt having a go at you either - see we have a few things in common. Not many mind - but a few.

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