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why do people enjoy playing such an un-aesthetically pleasing console like a ps2. i have been thinking this for quite some time and it still baffels me. what are your views on the subject
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The PS2 has the best games, it's that simple.
GT3 is better than PGR2 in terms of driving sim, PGR2 is more fun online, but we'll wait and reserve judgement on GT4 until it's out.
Devil May Cry has no match on any other console, it's sheer class and easily one of the best and most original games on this generation of hardware.
Transformers rocks :D
Zone Of The Enders rocks.
Final Fantasy rocks.
8 player games of Pro Evolution Soccer rock.
At the end of the day it's a games console, it's designed to play games which an individual enjoys, and that's all that matters, how each individual owner enjoys it.
GT3 is better than PGR2 in terms of driving sim, PGR2 is more fun online, but we'll wait and reserve judgement on GT4 until it's out.
Devil May Cry has no match on any other console, it's sheer class and easily one of the best and most original games on this generation of hardware.
Transformers rocks :D
Zone Of The Enders rocks.
Final Fantasy rocks.
8 player games of Pro Evolution Soccer rock.
At the end of the day it's a games console, it's designed to play games which an individual enjoys, and that's all that matters, how each individual owner enjoys it.
Stranger In Paradise wrote:
> Aoe wrote:
> Yes. Old. Months maybe won't stop this classic (probably) being much
> better on the Xbox and PC.
>
> Because the games are SO much more playable on the PC....
>
> Using this argument, BTW, means Xbox has very few exclusives as
> well.
But the exclusives are mainly really good.
> Final Fantasy III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, X-2, XI, XII all
> exclusive, and BTW Tactics was on PSone first in the US and Japan.
>
> HAHAHA. Retard. Final Fantasy was around before the PSone, so how
> III
> to VI are PS exclusive i do not know.
>
> Er yeah, er let me see, 7 + 8 are on the PC, if you can find them,
> and will cost about 40-50 boxed. Not forgetting of course that 7
> won't work on Windows XP without a somewhat iffy patch, and the same
> for 8. XI will be out in the UK eventually and is in Japan/US. Which
> leaves about 10 games not on the PC. What screwed up maths course did
> you go on?
Which leaves... 4 Sony exclusives... 2 of which are poo. 1 of which isn't out.
> Killzone exclusive.
>
> Looks... Pap.
>
> Really? I'll reserve judgement until the reviews, but I guess you are
> one of those people who see the Sony sign and have the inbuilt defend
> of "haha pap retard" etc
No. It does.
> Gran Turismo 4 exclusive.
>
> This series is getting quite poo now.
>
> See above.
Bit enjoyed one and two, three got a little tiresome, and i don't see how 4 is going to be as good as 2.
> Ace Combat - about the only decent fighter game on a console -
> exclusive.
>
> Crimson Skies >Any other flight combat thingy.
>
> Really? Well for a start none of the planes are real, and the mission
> levels are pretty confined, dogfights are certainly not up to Ace
> Comabt quality in my opinion.
But it was made to be online, just had a rather cool offline mode aswell.
> Not forgetting eye toy, singstar etc
>
> I'll give you the eye toy yes, but the singstar? No.
>
> Singstar is great fun!
I never said it wasn't... But Xbox had a similar product earlier, not sure on the details, but sounds the same.
> You know, now I think about it, you could have
> countered with the fact that the DC has a camera -
I could have also countered it saying the gameboy had a camera, but i didn't.
> plus Microsoft's Japanese side has a
> working camera in development though so far they look like they are
> only thinking of video chat, and integrating that into live games
> also.
Meh. Can't say i'm excited about it.
> Sure, online with PS2 does suck compared to Xbox, but I'm not all
> that bothered about online gaming at the moment.
>
> But online does make games a hell of alot better.
>
> It makes some games better, but I'm still yet to play any online game
> that really captivates me for more than a few weeks at best, I think
> HALO 2 could well be the first true classic for Live in the sense
> that it lasts longer than a few months.
what about RS3? PGR2? They've been around for ages and are still player virtually as often as when they were released.
> Maybe... But you wouldn't rush out and buy a 16 coloured 2D game for
> £40 for the PS2 would you?
>
> I wouldn't pay £40 for a PS2 game period. Can't remember last
> time I did, but graphics are not the #1 factor for me, its how well
> the game plays
I wasn't saying anyone would, you'd be insane to nower days (unless it was some rare game or something) just using it asa point.
> I can understand if you say you don't like the PS2 for personal
> reasons, but to say no one should like it is pure insanity at best,
> rampant fanboyism at worst.
But if i had the money i would buy a PS2, for it's few GOOD exclusives, just with the money i have now, i have a better console to satisfy my needs.
> Aoe wrote:
> Yes. Old. Months maybe won't stop this classic (probably) being much
> better on the Xbox and PC.
>
> Because the games are SO much more playable on the PC....
>
> Using this argument, BTW, means Xbox has very few exclusives as
> well.
But the exclusives are mainly really good.
> Final Fantasy III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, X-2, XI, XII all
> exclusive, and BTW Tactics was on PSone first in the US and Japan.
>
> HAHAHA. Retard. Final Fantasy was around before the PSone, so how
> III
> to VI are PS exclusive i do not know.
>
> Er yeah, er let me see, 7 + 8 are on the PC, if you can find them,
> and will cost about 40-50 boxed. Not forgetting of course that 7
> won't work on Windows XP without a somewhat iffy patch, and the same
> for 8. XI will be out in the UK eventually and is in Japan/US. Which
> leaves about 10 games not on the PC. What screwed up maths course did
> you go on?
Which leaves... 4 Sony exclusives... 2 of which are poo. 1 of which isn't out.
> Killzone exclusive.
>
> Looks... Pap.
>
> Really? I'll reserve judgement until the reviews, but I guess you are
> one of those people who see the Sony sign and have the inbuilt defend
> of "haha pap retard" etc
No. It does.
> Gran Turismo 4 exclusive.
>
> This series is getting quite poo now.
>
> See above.
Bit enjoyed one and two, three got a little tiresome, and i don't see how 4 is going to be as good as 2.
> Ace Combat - about the only decent fighter game on a console -
> exclusive.
>
> Crimson Skies >Any other flight combat thingy.
>
> Really? Well for a start none of the planes are real, and the mission
> levels are pretty confined, dogfights are certainly not up to Ace
> Comabt quality in my opinion.
But it was made to be online, just had a rather cool offline mode aswell.
> Not forgetting eye toy, singstar etc
>
> I'll give you the eye toy yes, but the singstar? No.
>
> Singstar is great fun!
I never said it wasn't... But Xbox had a similar product earlier, not sure on the details, but sounds the same.
> You know, now I think about it, you could have
> countered with the fact that the DC has a camera -
I could have also countered it saying the gameboy had a camera, but i didn't.
> plus Microsoft's Japanese side has a
> working camera in development though so far they look like they are
> only thinking of video chat, and integrating that into live games
> also.
Meh. Can't say i'm excited about it.
> Sure, online with PS2 does suck compared to Xbox, but I'm not all
> that bothered about online gaming at the moment.
>
> But online does make games a hell of alot better.
>
> It makes some games better, but I'm still yet to play any online game
> that really captivates me for more than a few weeks at best, I think
> HALO 2 could well be the first true classic for Live in the sense
> that it lasts longer than a few months.
what about RS3? PGR2? They've been around for ages and are still player virtually as often as when they were released.
> Maybe... But you wouldn't rush out and buy a 16 coloured 2D game for
> £40 for the PS2 would you?
>
> I wouldn't pay £40 for a PS2 game period. Can't remember last
> time I did, but graphics are not the #1 factor for me, its how well
> the game plays
I wasn't saying anyone would, you'd be insane to nower days (unless it was some rare game or something) just using it asa point.
> I can understand if you say you don't like the PS2 for personal
> reasons, but to say no one should like it is pure insanity at best,
> rampant fanboyism at worst.
But if i had the money i would buy a PS2, for it's few GOOD exclusives, just with the money i have now, i have a better console to satisfy my needs.
I'm actually looking forward to GT4. I loved the second one, I just hope it isn't like GT3 as I didn't really like that. It'll be interesting to see how Forza measures up to it as well.
EyeToy's always a favourite, but you get the feeling that anything between Play editions will be fun for about three minutes then get boring, much like Groove.
EyeToy's always a favourite, but you get the feeling that anything between Play editions will be fun for about three minutes then get boring, much like Groove.
Aoe wrote:
> Nah. The xbox has style. True it's bigger than the others, but it does
> actually look good...
I think you'll agree when I say it has nothing on the Panasonic Q, though. That has to be the nicest looking home console ever to exist. I want one. :-(
> Nah. The xbox has style. True it's bigger than the others, but it does
> actually look good...
I think you'll agree when I say it has nothing on the Panasonic Q, though. That has to be the nicest looking home console ever to exist. I want one. :-(
Aoe wrote:
> Yes. Old. Months maybe won't stop this classic (probably) being much
> better on the Xbox and PC.
Because the games are SO much more playable on the PC....
Using this argument, BTW, means Xbox has very few exclusives as well.
> Final Fantasy III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, X-2, XI, XII all
> exclusive, and BTW Tactics was on PSone first in the US and Japan.
>
> HAHAHA. Retard. Final Fantasy was around before the PSone, so how III
> to VI are PS exclusive i do not know.
Er yeah, er let me see, 7 + 8 are on the PC, if you can find them, and will cost about 40-50 boxed. Not forgetting of course that 7 won't work on Windows XP without a somewhat iffy patch, and the same for 8. XI will be out in the UK eventually and is in Japan/US. Which leaves about 10 games not on the PC. What screwed up maths course did you go on?
1-6 were indeed on the NES - but on a modern system so far only 1+2 are available on the GBA.
So erm, haha retard?
> Killzone exclusive.
>
> Looks... Pap.
Really? I'll reserve judgement until the reviews, but I guess you are one of those people who see the Sony sign and have the inbuilt defend of "haha pap retard" etc
> Gran Turismo 4 exclusive.
>
> This series is getting quite poo now.
See above.
> Ace Combat - about the only decent fighter game on a console -
> exclusive.
>
> Crimson Skies >Any other flight combat thingy.
Really? Well for a start none of the planes are real, and the mission levels are pretty confined, dogfights are certainly not up to Ace Comabt quality in my opinion.
> Not forgetting eye toy, singstar etc
>
> I'll give you the eye toy yes, but the singstar? No.
Singstar is great fun! You know, now I think about it, you could have countered with the fact that the DC has a camera - though it did not work the same as the Eye Toy, plus Microsoft's Japanese side has a working camera in development though so far they look like they are only thinking of video chat, and integrating that into live games also.
> Sure, online with PS2 does suck compared to Xbox, but I'm not all
> that bothered about online gaming at the moment.
>
> But online does make games a hell of alot better.
It makes some games better, but I'm still yet to play any online game that really captivates me for more than a few weeks at best, I think HALO 2 could well be the first true classic for Live in the sense that it lasts longer than a few months. A lot of the old Live games have very few people on now - same can be said for PS2 old titles. Yet on the PC, despite the games being sometimes much harder to setup, play, and configure, there are large numbers of players for virtually every online game - that's hopefully what the consoles will have one day.
> We could do this all day, suffice to say I believe ignoring the PS2
> for it's less powerful graphics is insane - stuff like Transformers
> (exclusive) is better looking than a majority of Xbox games, so I
> wouldn't forget it just yet...
>
> Ha. You obviously don't play many Xbox games.
I'll bet I've played more than you have - and this isn't a challenge to start a tiresome "list every game you have ever played" style competition. The fact is that, despite the Xbox's capabilities, some games seem to fail to use them - look at Shadows Ops Red Mercury - its only on Xbox console and PC (so no "multiformat" excuse to use) yet in places its graphics are on par with PSone visuals!
> You can argue graphics all you like, but this week I've spent longer
> playing NES Classic Pacman than any other game - graphics aren't
> everything after all...
> Maybe... But you wouldn't rush out and buy a 16 coloured 2D game for
> £40 for the PS2 would you?
I wouldn't pay £40 for a PS2 game period. Can't remember last time I did, but graphics are not the #1 factor for me, its how well the game plays - Disgaea is an absolute classic on the PS2, yet its essentially a souped up PSone game, it doesn't matter because it's that good! Given the rate at which the NES classics series is selling, its clear that a hell of a lot of people WILL pay 15-20 for a 16 coloured 2D game.
I can understand if you say you don't like the PS2 for personal reasons, but to say no one should like it is pure insanity at best, rampant fanboyism at worst. Me? I go where the games are, and luckily I can afford to do so for the most part.
> Yes. Old. Months maybe won't stop this classic (probably) being much
> better on the Xbox and PC.
Because the games are SO much more playable on the PC....
Using this argument, BTW, means Xbox has very few exclusives as well.
> Final Fantasy III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, X-2, XI, XII all
> exclusive, and BTW Tactics was on PSone first in the US and Japan.
>
> HAHAHA. Retard. Final Fantasy was around before the PSone, so how III
> to VI are PS exclusive i do not know.
Er yeah, er let me see, 7 + 8 are on the PC, if you can find them, and will cost about 40-50 boxed. Not forgetting of course that 7 won't work on Windows XP without a somewhat iffy patch, and the same for 8. XI will be out in the UK eventually and is in Japan/US. Which leaves about 10 games not on the PC. What screwed up maths course did you go on?
1-6 were indeed on the NES - but on a modern system so far only 1+2 are available on the GBA.
So erm, haha retard?
> Killzone exclusive.
>
> Looks... Pap.
Really? I'll reserve judgement until the reviews, but I guess you are one of those people who see the Sony sign and have the inbuilt defend of "haha pap retard" etc
> Gran Turismo 4 exclusive.
>
> This series is getting quite poo now.
See above.
> Ace Combat - about the only decent fighter game on a console -
> exclusive.
>
> Crimson Skies >Any other flight combat thingy.
Really? Well for a start none of the planes are real, and the mission levels are pretty confined, dogfights are certainly not up to Ace Comabt quality in my opinion.
> Not forgetting eye toy, singstar etc
>
> I'll give you the eye toy yes, but the singstar? No.
Singstar is great fun! You know, now I think about it, you could have countered with the fact that the DC has a camera - though it did not work the same as the Eye Toy, plus Microsoft's Japanese side has a working camera in development though so far they look like they are only thinking of video chat, and integrating that into live games also.
> Sure, online with PS2 does suck compared to Xbox, but I'm not all
> that bothered about online gaming at the moment.
>
> But online does make games a hell of alot better.
It makes some games better, but I'm still yet to play any online game that really captivates me for more than a few weeks at best, I think HALO 2 could well be the first true classic for Live in the sense that it lasts longer than a few months. A lot of the old Live games have very few people on now - same can be said for PS2 old titles. Yet on the PC, despite the games being sometimes much harder to setup, play, and configure, there are large numbers of players for virtually every online game - that's hopefully what the consoles will have one day.
> We could do this all day, suffice to say I believe ignoring the PS2
> for it's less powerful graphics is insane - stuff like Transformers
> (exclusive) is better looking than a majority of Xbox games, so I
> wouldn't forget it just yet...
>
> Ha. You obviously don't play many Xbox games.
I'll bet I've played more than you have - and this isn't a challenge to start a tiresome "list every game you have ever played" style competition. The fact is that, despite the Xbox's capabilities, some games seem to fail to use them - look at Shadows Ops Red Mercury - its only on Xbox console and PC (so no "multiformat" excuse to use) yet in places its graphics are on par with PSone visuals!
> You can argue graphics all you like, but this week I've spent longer
> playing NES Classic Pacman than any other game - graphics aren't
> everything after all...
> Maybe... But you wouldn't rush out and buy a 16 coloured 2D game for
> £40 for the PS2 would you?
I wouldn't pay £40 for a PS2 game period. Can't remember last time I did, but graphics are not the #1 factor for me, its how well the game plays - Disgaea is an absolute classic on the PS2, yet its essentially a souped up PSone game, it doesn't matter because it's that good! Given the rate at which the NES classics series is selling, its clear that a hell of a lot of people WILL pay 15-20 for a 16 coloured 2D game.
I can understand if you say you don't like the PS2 for personal reasons, but to say no one should like it is pure insanity at best, rampant fanboyism at worst. Me? I go where the games are, and luckily I can afford to do so for the most part.
Aoe wrote:
> And i can't remember what a GC looks like.
It looks like a small cube.
> And i can't remember what a GC looks like.
It looks like a small cube.
Aoe wrote:
> Ace Combat - about the only decent fighter game on a console -
> exclusive.
>
> Crimson Skies > Any other flight combat thingy.
Try IL2 Forgotten Battles on the PC.
> Ace Combat - about the only decent fighter game on a console -
> exclusive.
>
> Crimson Skies > Any other flight combat thingy.
Try IL2 Forgotten Battles on the PC.
ßulle†† wrote:
> FFIII never came out on a Sony machine did it? Or was it FFVI? One of
> them never got re-released, I'm sure of it.
FFII
> FFIII never came out on a Sony machine did it? Or was it FFVI? One of
> them never got re-released, I'm sure of it.
FFII
Nah. The xbox has style. True it's bigger than the others, but it does actually look good...
And i can't remember what a GC looks like.
And i can't remember what a GC looks like.
What? You think the Xbox or GameCube look good?
They're all ugly. Well maybe not the GC so much.
They're all ugly. Well maybe not the GC so much.
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