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Thu 28/12/06 at 11:20
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Surely the chicken must have come first. I feel that a creature before the chicken must have evolved slightly, creating a egg laying animal. This is because when I turn the question around I see that the egg must have come from somewhere - right?!
Thu 04/01/07 at 13:22
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I dont understand why theres this eagerness to reconcile the 2. I doubt Geffdof really wants science in his religion anymore than science wants faith in it.

When I was taught all this stuff at school many years ago no mention was ever made of the conflicts. In respect of creationism we told this is what some people believe. A rigorous evaluation compared to science wasnt needed. And I dont feel mentally scarred because of this. :)
Thu 04/01/07 at 14:18
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Garin wrote:
> I dont understand why theres this eagerness to reconcile the 2.
> I doubt Geffdof really wants science in his religion anymore
> than science wants faith in it.
>
> When I was taught all this stuff at school many years ago no
> mention was ever made of the conflicts. In respect of
> creationism we told this is what some people believe. A
> rigorous evaluation compared to science wasnt needed. And I
> dont feel mentally scarred because of this. :)

No, I didn't mean that it had to be in any way rigorous, or an evaluation for that matter.

It's just a useful excercise in teaching kids how different people think. I'd in no way want to see Creationism taught as Science or the two reconciled, merely that it's a good excercise to show that some people don't believe in current scientific theories. If you're going to teach Science at a teenage and above level, you need to express that current scientific thinking may change over time (perhaps using Einstein as an example) and then that other people don't agree with current thinking, even without proof, and creationism is a good example.

But understanding something such as Creationism is useful in itself, as is how people perceive it. I guess this falls more under sociology than anything else, though.
Sun 28/01/07 at 11:47
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We don't know. And does it make a difference? If the egg came, it hatched, we have a chicken. If the chicken came, we have a chicken.
The only difference is the former takes a small bit longer.
Sun 28/01/07 at 11:51
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Once us scientologists takeover it'll be fine.
Sun 28/01/07 at 15:42
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:D
Sun 28/01/07 at 20:34
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Everything came from the ocean. Ocean things tend to lay eggs. Therefore I would say the egg came before the Chicken as the sea-based thing the chicken evolved from would have been an egg-layer. :)
Mon 29/01/07 at 21:54
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Hedfix wrote:

> Everything came from the ocean. Ocean things tend to lay eggs.

We didnt come from the ocean-you may have?

> Therefore I would say the egg came before the Chicken as the
> sea-based thing the chicken evolved from would have been an
> egg-layer. :)

And I certainly dont lay eggs-you may do?
Tue 30/01/07 at 06:40
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Do you believe in a flying spaghetti monster too bubblehead!?
Thu 01/02/07 at 11:21
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what came first, the chicken or the egg?


screw that, i came first. then i left.
Thu 08/02/07 at 20:33
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Hedfix wrote:
> Do you believe in a flying spaghetti monster too bubblehead!?
That made me laugh so hard.

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