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I actually thought that it would be technically better than the PS2, boy was I wrong!!!
Hands up how many Nintendo fans tried to s**g off the PS2 for only having 4Mb of embedded VRAM for the Graphics synthesiser chip. Come on now don't be shy, oh well all of you may be interested enough to here that in an official interview on Gamespot ATI's VP of engineering announced that the Gamecube only has 3Mb of embedded VRAM, and it is no where near as fast as the PS2's DRDRAM, which runs at 800mghz and allows a much higher bandwidth in and out of the chip!!
Shame on you all, now apologize to Bonus, then go read the full interview at the address below!!
http://www.gamespot.co.uk /stories/news/ 0,2160,2088313,00.html
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Hands up how many Nintendo fans tried to s**g off the PS2 for only having 4Mb of embedded VRAM for the Graphics synthesiser chip. Come on now don't be shy, oh well all of you may be interested enough to here that in an official interview on Gamespot ATI's VP of engineering announced that the Gamecube only has 3Mb of embedded VRAM, and it is no where near as fast as the PS2's DRDRAM, which runs at 800mghz and allows a much higher bandwidth in and out of the chip!!
Shame on you all, now apologize to Bonus, then go read the full interview at the address below!!
http://www.gamespot.co.uk /stories/news/ 0,2160,2088313,00.html
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FantasyMeister wrote:
d)
> the fact that 90% of games reviewed for the SNES contain the phrase
> 'muddy graphics'.
Insert the letters N64 for SNES above when reading the post below. My error.
d)
> the fact that 90% of games reviewed for the SNES contain the phrase
> 'muddy graphics'.
Insert the letters N64 for SNES above when reading the post below. My error.
Meka_Dragon wrote:
> But FM, the games you've listed are hardly those that are considered
> to be any good.
When you had a SNES, did you not notice the games
> that Square were producing? I'm sure that they would have appealed
> to you!
YES!
Final Fantasy 2
Final Fantasy 3
Final Fantasy 4 (Hard Import)
Final Fantasy 5
Final Fantasy 6
Secret of Mana
Secret of Evermore
Chrono Trigger
Pilot Wings.
I played them all on my SNES and glad I did.
All great SNES games, no muddy graphics, great gameplay. Every other game I had around that time was on the MegaDrive. But I'm talking about the N64.
Then when the PSX was released, I'm glad I went for it, because I ended up with 48 great games for it. When the N64 game out a few months later, I looked, I touched, I played around with it, I couldn't justify the cost for only two games that were about at the time that I would have liked, and ever since then, I've ALWAYS been put off by:
a) price
b) lack of adult orientated games (rectified more recently, but too late, X-Box here we come).
c) the fact that there are in total only about 6 games that I'd get if I owned an N64.
d) the fact that 90% of games reviewed for the SNES contain the phrase 'muddy graphics'.
> But FM, the games you've listed are hardly those that are considered
> to be any good.
When you had a SNES, did you not notice the games
> that Square were producing? I'm sure that they would have appealed
> to you!
YES!
Final Fantasy 2
Final Fantasy 3
Final Fantasy 4 (Hard Import)
Final Fantasy 5
Final Fantasy 6
Secret of Mana
Secret of Evermore
Chrono Trigger
Pilot Wings.
I played them all on my SNES and glad I did.
All great SNES games, no muddy graphics, great gameplay. Every other game I had around that time was on the MegaDrive. But I'm talking about the N64.
Then when the PSX was released, I'm glad I went for it, because I ended up with 48 great games for it. When the N64 game out a few months later, I looked, I touched, I played around with it, I couldn't justify the cost for only two games that were about at the time that I would have liked, and ever since then, I've ALWAYS been put off by:
a) price
b) lack of adult orientated games (rectified more recently, but too late, X-Box here we come).
c) the fact that there are in total only about 6 games that I'd get if I owned an N64.
d) the fact that 90% of games reviewed for the SNES contain the phrase 'muddy graphics'.
But FM, the games you've listed are hardly those that are considered to be any good.
When you had a SNES, did you not notice the games that Square were producing? I'm sure that they would have appealed to you!
When you had a SNES, did you not notice the games that Square were producing? I'm sure that they would have appealed to you!
Dan uk wrote:
> What has FM got against games with cartoony graphics anyway?
It's
> not like he's matured over the last 30 years or anything :-D
Who ever said I had anything against games with cartoony graphics?
I do have something against games for pre-teens, though, which is why I prefer nearly every other format in the world apart from Nintendo, who cater (in the MAIN), for the type of gamer who enjoys pre-teen games.
Fear Effect, Skies of Arcadia, Final Fantasy VII, Micro MAchines, all have cartoony graphics, but I enjoy those games. (Plus the fact that the majority of games on other formats don't have Nintendo's 'trademark' muddy graphics, whereas the majority of games on the N64 do).
Here's some snapshots from reviews of N64 games taken from the web at random:
Army Men, Sarge's Heroes: Graphics: "Muddy and waxen – and that’s WITH an expansion pak."
Indy Racing 2000: "If you can overlook the muddy graphics, Indy Racing 2000 is surprisingly fun."
Hexen: "The graphics are rather muddy, the framerate is unforgivably poor, and the enemies look like they came straight out of a cheap 2D game."
CyberTiger: "Flawed gameplay and muddy graphics keep CyberTiger in the rough."
Nascar 2000: "The resulting graphics look faded out and muddy."
Paper Mario: "Let's face it; the Mario games are notorious for their lame copycat stories that have had no real innovation in the last 20 years."
Oops, how did that last one get there?
> What has FM got against games with cartoony graphics anyway?
It's
> not like he's matured over the last 30 years or anything :-D
Who ever said I had anything against games with cartoony graphics?
I do have something against games for pre-teens, though, which is why I prefer nearly every other format in the world apart from Nintendo, who cater (in the MAIN), for the type of gamer who enjoys pre-teen games.
Fear Effect, Skies of Arcadia, Final Fantasy VII, Micro MAchines, all have cartoony graphics, but I enjoy those games. (Plus the fact that the majority of games on other formats don't have Nintendo's 'trademark' muddy graphics, whereas the majority of games on the N64 do).
Here's some snapshots from reviews of N64 games taken from the web at random:
Army Men, Sarge's Heroes: Graphics: "Muddy and waxen – and that’s WITH an expansion pak."
Indy Racing 2000: "If you can overlook the muddy graphics, Indy Racing 2000 is surprisingly fun."
Hexen: "The graphics are rather muddy, the framerate is unforgivably poor, and the enemies look like they came straight out of a cheap 2D game."
CyberTiger: "Flawed gameplay and muddy graphics keep CyberTiger in the rough."
Nascar 2000: "The resulting graphics look faded out and muddy."
Paper Mario: "Let's face it; the Mario games are notorious for their lame copycat stories that have had no real innovation in the last 20 years."
Oops, how did that last one get there?
What has FM got against games with cartoony graphics anyway?
It's not like he's matured over the last 30 years or anything :-D
It's not like he's matured over the last 30 years or anything :-D
The cube is gonna be marketed at everone so it will have the "kidd" games and the "adult games". And a huge selection of games that can be classed inbetween.
You'll be suprised then FM.
YH, cartridges could also easily be copied, although the problem is they were so expensive to copy anyway!!
I feel that buying the right equipment and copying a GC title will cost about as much as buying one in the shops!
:D so there will be hardly any copies.. and who has small DVD RAM copiers?
I feel that buying the right equipment and copying a GC title will cost about as much as buying one in the shops!
:D so there will be hardly any copies.. and who has small DVD RAM copiers?
[UK]Sniper wrote:
> No the disks at least will be Piracy proof and Nintendo GC discs
> only not PS2 not PC it's Nintendo's!
The GD-ROMS used by Sega were supposed to be piracy proof as well, but you could get copied games within about 6 months.
> No the disks at least will be Piracy proof and Nintendo GC discs
> only not PS2 not PC it's Nintendo's!
The GD-ROMS used by Sega were supposed to be piracy proof as well, but you could get copied games within about 6 months.
Fantasy, Metroid is looking to be an 18 rated game!
:D yeah, dark and scary
:D yeah, dark and scary
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