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Recently, Religion has come up in a number of discussions and it would be good to discuss them. EVERYONE has a belief. This topic has some effect in a lot of lifes.
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cooldogs wrote:
> Ant wrote:
Also, who was it who said they
> found a missing
> page in the bible saying, "Dear Andrew, enjoy
> the
> book."???
Surely that is bull-it would have been all
>
> over the news.
Wasnt that a quote from Red Dwarf? Either that or
> a stupid joke!
>You are too gullable Ant!!
Nope, I'm not gullable as on Red Dwarf the page they found was something like, "Any relations to real people is coincedence, as the bible is entirely fictional."
Something like that.
Anyway, I've already congratulated everyone on this intelligent discussion-but I will do again.
Thanks, and well done.
> Ant wrote:
Also, who was it who said they
> found a missing
> page in the bible saying, "Dear Andrew, enjoy
> the
> book."???
Surely that is bull-it would have been all
>
> over the news.
Wasnt that a quote from Red Dwarf? Either that or
> a stupid joke!
>You are too gullable Ant!!
Nope, I'm not gullable as on Red Dwarf the page they found was something like, "Any relations to real people is coincedence, as the bible is entirely fictional."
Something like that.
Anyway, I've already congratulated everyone on this intelligent discussion-but I will do again.
Thanks, and well done.
Actually that qoute is from a Tool song called Prison Sex.
I think that Goatboy was right that it doesn't really matter what you believe on this matter.
I've enjoyed the debate in this thread and have argued on a number of points and interpretations of the Bible because I do really enjoy this subject. I am not a believer but I think that Christianity has had such a fundamental role in shaping western culture that its important to take some interest.
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter whether you believe or not because all the major monotheistic faiths boil down to one simple thing. If you for a moment cast aside all the terrible things that have been done in the name of religion (I can think of some truly barbaric acts carried out by people who honestly beleived they were doing the right thing - the road to hell is paved with good intentions I guess...), religion has taught people the most important basic principle.
That is not to say that if you are not religious you have not learned the same lesson (or that if you are religious you are incapable of forgetting it!). Humanist thought and philosophy has come to the same conclusion without the need for religion. Morality does not necessarily spring from religion.
To me, it all boils down to this: 'Do unto others as you would have others do unto you'.
I've enjoyed the debate in this thread and have argued on a number of points and interpretations of the Bible because I do really enjoy this subject. I am not a believer but I think that Christianity has had such a fundamental role in shaping western culture that its important to take some interest.
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter whether you believe or not because all the major monotheistic faiths boil down to one simple thing. If you for a moment cast aside all the terrible things that have been done in the name of religion (I can think of some truly barbaric acts carried out by people who honestly beleived they were doing the right thing - the road to hell is paved with good intentions I guess...), religion has taught people the most important basic principle.
That is not to say that if you are not religious you have not learned the same lesson (or that if you are religious you are incapable of forgetting it!). Humanist thought and philosophy has come to the same conclusion without the need for religion. Morality does not necessarily spring from religion.
To me, it all boils down to this: 'Do unto others as you would have others do unto you'.
Oh absolutely, and I'm amazed this thread has been so intelligent for so long.
I can honestly say it's been interesting reading this stuff, and not once has anyone degenerated into "You suck" "No you do".
I just wanted to chuck my hat into the ring, that was all.
A decent argument (not a fight, but an argument) is always a pleasure to read.
I can honestly say it's been interesting reading this stuff, and not once has anyone degenerated into "You suck" "No you do".
I just wanted to chuck my hat into the ring, that was all.
A decent argument (not a fight, but an argument) is always a pleasure to read.
Your right Goatboy but it is nice to have a good old argument from time to time.
I'd have to agree their, my Goatie friend.
Also, on FOG, a guy called NiGHTS told me that some quantum physics reports prove we are not actually here! Strange, eh?
Also, who was it who said they found a missing page in the bible saying, "Dear Andrew, enjoy the book."???
Surely that is bull-it would have been all over the news.
Also, on FOG, a guy called NiGHTS told me that some quantum physics reports prove we are not actually here! Strange, eh?
Also, who was it who said they found a missing page in the bible saying, "Dear Andrew, enjoy the book."???
Surely that is bull-it would have been all over the news.
Who cares, quite frankly?
This is one of those things that will never be answered, and the people that do know the answers can't come back and tell us, because they're either in heaven (of whatever religion you follow), or they're underground not existing anymore.
Everyone has their beliefs, everyone is right and everyone is wrong.
Just live how you feel you should live and let others do what they want.
Ant feels that God has changed his life? Good for him, I'm happy.
Andrew Hunt doesn't believe a god exists? Good for him, I'm happy.
I believe that we are pod-people from Pluto? Good for me, I'm happy.
Is anyone seeing a pattern here?
Good for you, I'm happy.
Whatever your belief, whatever your denomination.
Except for Mormons. Those guys are waaaaaaay out there.
This is one of those things that will never be answered, and the people that do know the answers can't come back and tell us, because they're either in heaven (of whatever religion you follow), or they're underground not existing anymore.
Everyone has their beliefs, everyone is right and everyone is wrong.
Just live how you feel you should live and let others do what they want.
Ant feels that God has changed his life? Good for him, I'm happy.
Andrew Hunt doesn't believe a god exists? Good for him, I'm happy.
I believe that we are pod-people from Pluto? Good for me, I'm happy.
Is anyone seeing a pattern here?
Good for you, I'm happy.
Whatever your belief, whatever your denomination.
Except for Mormons. Those guys are waaaaaaay out there.
I was watching TV last night and relised something. There seem to be two big reasons to have a fight, sex and religion. Sex causes little fights over women and sometimes these can get out of hand. And then theres religion. Responsable for more deaths then Hitler. Actualy thats wrong. Religion is not responceable but the people who blindly follow it are. The people who believe they are God's chosen few and so should have a certain piece of land. Then their are the hypocytes for example some are white and christian and go to church and talk about loving thy neighbour and then go out side and join the klu Klux Klan.
I think religion can help some people but it makes me think or at least wonder where we would be today if religion hadent been invented or even if we all agreed to disagre. Maybe we could have spared a lot of lives and could be living in a peaceful world. Maybee...
I think religion can help some people but it makes me think or at least wonder where we would be today if religion hadent been invented or even if we all agreed to disagre. Maybe we could have spared a lot of lives and could be living in a peaceful world. Maybee...
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