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the guitar solo from Sweet Child o' Mine? If you can, you are a God.
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Memorandum! wrote:
> Great, it's fast. It's also abysmal.
Once again, i suppose you can do better?
> Great, it's fast. It's also abysmal.
Once again, i suppose you can do better?
Since when does someone need to be better at something than someone to badmouth that someone?
Padraic wrote:
> Since when does someone need to be better at something than someone to
> badmouth that someone?
never, but i'm afraid i'll need more to go on.
it's certainly not abysmal playing, it may not be everyones taste in music, but i have to say i though the playing standard was pretty high.
> Since when does someone need to be better at something than someone to
> badmouth that someone?
never, but i'm afraid i'll need more to go on.
it's certainly not abysmal playing, it may not be everyones taste in music, but i have to say i though the playing standard was pretty high.
metalhead wrote:
> Once again, i suppose you can do better?
Yer, he can.
> Once again, i suppose you can do better?
Yer, he can.
And whether he can or not (which he can) is entirely irrelevant.
It's still
absolutely
pish.
It's still
absolutely
pish.
I am the reincarnation of Jimi Hendrix.
Not THAT Jimi Hendrix... but still...
Not THAT Jimi Hendrix... but still...
Very_Metal wrote:
> it's certainly not abysmal playing, it may not be everyones taste in
> music, but i have to say i though the playing standard was pretty
> high.
It's fantastic playing, but it sounds awful.
metalhead seems to think that "do better" means "play faster" whereas in my opinion "do better" means "play actual music".
> it's certainly not abysmal playing, it may not be everyones taste in
> music, but i have to say i though the playing standard was pretty
> high.
It's fantastic playing, but it sounds awful.
metalhead seems to think that "do better" means "play faster" whereas in my opinion "do better" means "play actual music".
Memorandum! wrote:
> Very_Metal wrote:
> it's certainly not abysmal playing, it may not be everyones taste in
> music, but i have to say i though the playing standard was pretty
> high.
>
> It's fantastic playing, but it sounds awful.
> metalhead seems to think that "do better" means "play
> faster" whereas in my opinion "do better" means
> "play actual music".
Thats IS what i mean. I was saying dont sl@g off the technical abilities of great musiciens when you clearly cant play better than them. In terms of 'better music', thats all a matter of opinion. Chav scum will try to tell you that rap is the best music there is, where as most of us realise it is infact talentless mumbling. The idea of quite a lot of metal soloing isnt to listen to it and go 'ooo doesnt that sound pretty', it so you listen to it and think 'christ that guys' good!! how does he/she play that fast etc. etc.', e.g. slayer, slipknot, my video. Shred-solos might not be the most tuneful or pleasant-to-listen-to style of music, but thats the the point, it focuses on the technical ability of the individual musicien. Whereas many people would argue that Kurt Cobain was a great guitarist, ok its true that the guy could just about play. No fast solos, no frantic riffing, no sweep-picked arpeggios. Just chords. But the difference is, he wrote the riff to 'smells like teen spirit', and Steve Vai didnt! Its not just about playin difficult stuff, its writing music in the first place.
> Very_Metal wrote:
> it's certainly not abysmal playing, it may not be everyones taste in
> music, but i have to say i though the playing standard was pretty
> high.
>
> It's fantastic playing, but it sounds awful.
> metalhead seems to think that "do better" means "play
> faster" whereas in my opinion "do better" means
> "play actual music".
Thats IS what i mean. I was saying dont sl@g off the technical abilities of great musiciens when you clearly cant play better than them. In terms of 'better music', thats all a matter of opinion. Chav scum will try to tell you that rap is the best music there is, where as most of us realise it is infact talentless mumbling. The idea of quite a lot of metal soloing isnt to listen to it and go 'ooo doesnt that sound pretty', it so you listen to it and think 'christ that guys' good!! how does he/she play that fast etc. etc.', e.g. slayer, slipknot, my video. Shred-solos might not be the most tuneful or pleasant-to-listen-to style of music, but thats the the point, it focuses on the technical ability of the individual musicien. Whereas many people would argue that Kurt Cobain was a great guitarist, ok its true that the guy could just about play. No fast solos, no frantic riffing, no sweep-picked arpeggios. Just chords. But the difference is, he wrote the riff to 'smells like teen spirit', and Steve Vai didnt! Its not just about playin difficult stuff, its writing music in the first place.
metalhead wrote:
> The idea of
> quite a lot of metal soloing isnt to listen to it and go 'ooo doesnt
> that sound pretty', it so you listen to it and think 'christ that
> guys' good!! how does he/she play that fast etc. etc.', e.g. slayer,
> slipknot, my video. Shred-solos might not be the most tuneful or
> pleasant-to-listen-to style of music, but thats the the point, it
> focuses on the technical ability of the individual musicien.
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what's the point in playing it if it sounds crap?
Shred sounds crap 95% of the time because it's just some knob showing off how fast his fingers are. Technical music is soulless and boring. Being able to play fast is one thing, but what most shredders lack is the ability to actually use their talent to make decent music. I can fret-wankle just like in your little video but other than as a warm-up it's not really of much use to me. I'd much rather have written the solo to Sweet Child O' Mine than any generic metal shred-fest. Look at Metallica as a prime example of pointless noodling - the best solo is in Nothing Else Matters, because it actually fits into the song and has some emotion behind it rather than the usual 'pentatonic lick #2'.
> The idea of
> quite a lot of metal soloing isnt to listen to it and go 'ooo doesnt
> that sound pretty', it so you listen to it and think 'christ that
> guys' good!! how does he/she play that fast etc. etc.', e.g. slayer,
> slipknot, my video. Shred-solos might not be the most tuneful or
> pleasant-to-listen-to style of music, but thats the the point, it
> focuses on the technical ability of the individual musicien.
.......
what's the point in playing it if it sounds crap?
Shred sounds crap 95% of the time because it's just some knob showing off how fast his fingers are. Technical music is soulless and boring. Being able to play fast is one thing, but what most shredders lack is the ability to actually use their talent to make decent music. I can fret-wankle just like in your little video but other than as a warm-up it's not really of much use to me. I'd much rather have written the solo to Sweet Child O' Mine than any generic metal shred-fest. Look at Metallica as a prime example of pointless noodling - the best solo is in Nothing Else Matters, because it actually fits into the song and has some emotion behind it rather than the usual 'pentatonic lick #2'.
Oh, and where did I criticise their playing ability? The answer is...nowhere. I just said it was a crap solo, which it is.
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