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You may be wondering about what is meant in the title? Well, although games are designed and perceived as 3d worlds, they are still shown on a 2d screen, and are still interacted with in only 2d... usually simply with a "jump" button to allow some 3rd dimensional freedom.
So... how do u solve this? Simple... make a Holodeck!
Ok, so it's not easy- but there is a way...
Does anyone here know Jez San? He's head of Argonauts, and in the top 100 rich list after having sold the hardware part of the company. Anyway, before he sold the company, they reveilled a new display device that escentially projected a 3d image above it! Now... if only they could get an and release it! (Although no news has been heard)
Another idea is one that the US military uses to track its tanks. It's a horizontal screen that you look down onto, but the image is in 3d! Fantastic... if only someone could make a cheap version of it!
The final idea for display devices that I have just remembered is a new type of TV... the program is filmed from several angles, and these are then converted into a signal to the TV, where they are remade... in 3d! Like the virtual boy's display, but only you don't need to look into gogles, and when finnished will be i full colour and high resolution. This idea is being developed by some top Japanese company (I think that it is Toshiba).
Now. How to interact with this world? Well, we've tried 3D gloves, and big virtual reality boxes are a bit big! But thinking about it, all controllers are the same- plastic with coloured buttons on... can no-noe think of something better? Maybe some sort of eye-tracking device that could tell how far away you were looking? Maybe not.. but something needs to be used!
Anyway, my final point. Some of you may ask "Why not play games as they are... anyway, this new 3D environment would be too hard to get lots of people to adopt, and will also alienate so many gamers." The answer is this... "Eventually in the future of gaming this idea will be faced... and conquered. It's enevitable, and this being the FOG means that it's totally relevant"
I'll see u in 50 years when we plug ourselves into games ala eXistenZ ;)
Sonic
So... how do u solve this? Simple... make a Holodeck!
Ok, so it's not easy- but there is a way...
Does anyone here know Jez San? He's head of Argonauts, and in the top 100 rich list after having sold the hardware part of the company. Anyway, before he sold the company, they reveilled a new display device that escentially projected a 3d image above it! Now... if only they could get an and release it! (Although no news has been heard)
Another idea is one that the US military uses to track its tanks. It's a horizontal screen that you look down onto, but the image is in 3d! Fantastic... if only someone could make a cheap version of it!
The final idea for display devices that I have just remembered is a new type of TV... the program is filmed from several angles, and these are then converted into a signal to the TV, where they are remade... in 3d! Like the virtual boy's display, but only you don't need to look into gogles, and when finnished will be i full colour and high resolution. This idea is being developed by some top Japanese company (I think that it is Toshiba).
Now. How to interact with this world? Well, we've tried 3D gloves, and big virtual reality boxes are a bit big! But thinking about it, all controllers are the same- plastic with coloured buttons on... can no-noe think of something better? Maybe some sort of eye-tracking device that could tell how far away you were looking? Maybe not.. but something needs to be used!
Anyway, my final point. Some of you may ask "Why not play games as they are... anyway, this new 3D environment would be too hard to get lots of people to adopt, and will also alienate so many gamers." The answer is this... "Eventually in the future of gaming this idea will be faced... and conquered. It's enevitable, and this being the FOG means that it's totally relevant"
I'll see u in 50 years when we plug ourselves into games ala eXistenZ ;)
Sonic
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> Bonus wrote:
> But why do we need
> real 3D games?? I'm quite
> happy playing them on
> a TV,
> rather than having a Star Trek
> style Holodeck.
When computer games first came out, a lot of people claimed they didnt want to interact with the stuff on thier TV... just watch it... however since then, computer games have become rather popular...
my point being, that although you say you would rather experience computer games via a monitor... after getting used to a full immersion environment, you probably wouldnt want to go back...
> But why do we need
> real 3D games?? I'm quite
> happy playing them on
> a TV,
> rather than having a Star Trek
> style Holodeck.
When computer games first came out, a lot of people claimed they didnt want to interact with the stuff on thier TV... just watch it... however since then, computer games have become rather popular...
my point being, that although you say you would rather experience computer games via a monitor... after getting used to a full immersion environment, you probably wouldnt want to go back...
As long I get to wear those funky green and red glasses, I say MORE 3D.
And Barbarian.
In 3D
And Barbarian.
In 3D
Bonus wrote:
> Yep, anyone who knows how vectors work understands, no??
In
> maths, you have to draw vector graphs for our Higher exams up here,
> but they still look flat because the are on paper.
Actually, I am doing 3 maths A levels! Most people only do 1 or none... so I do lots of vector stuff...
Anyway, I understand that CPUs generate the positions of the vecors and polygons in 3d, and then translate this to a 2d screen by working out what u will be able to see from your current position. Wouldn't it be better if you could actually view the images in 3d and not on the 2d plane?
Sonic
> Yep, anyone who knows how vectors work understands, no??
In
> maths, you have to draw vector graphs for our Higher exams up here,
> but they still look flat because the are on paper.
Actually, I am doing 3 maths A levels! Most people only do 1 or none... so I do lots of vector stuff...
Anyway, I understand that CPUs generate the positions of the vecors and polygons in 3d, and then translate this to a 2d screen by working out what u will be able to see from your current position. Wouldn't it be better if you could actually view the images in 3d and not on the 2d plane?
Sonic
Armatige Shanks wrote:
> Bonus wrote:
> But why do we need real 3D games?? I'm quite
> happy playing them on
> a TV, rather than having a Star Trek
> style Holodeck.
Why do we need computer games... I quite happy
> watching Star Trek, I dont want to play within the Star Trek
> universe?
Eh??
> Bonus wrote:
> But why do we need real 3D games?? I'm quite
> happy playing them on
> a TV, rather than having a Star Trek
> style Holodeck.
Why do we need computer games... I quite happy
> watching Star Trek, I dont want to play within the Star Trek
> universe?
Eh??
Bonus wrote:
> But why do we need real 3D games?? I'm quite happy playing them on
> a TV, rather than having a Star Trek style Holodeck.
Well, this is the FOG bonus... and maybe in the future we will play in 3d... surely that nis what this room is for? Maybe I'm wrong and we will plug ourselves into games.
Anyway, if you think the topic is a waste of time, then there isn't any point posting on it? Why not set up your own topic about how u think games will be displayed in the future... I'm open to other people's opinions.
Sonic
> But why do we need real 3D games?? I'm quite happy playing them on
> a TV, rather than having a Star Trek style Holodeck.
Well, this is the FOG bonus... and maybe in the future we will play in 3d... surely that nis what this room is for? Maybe I'm wrong and we will plug ourselves into games.
Anyway, if you think the topic is a waste of time, then there isn't any point posting on it? Why not set up your own topic about how u think games will be displayed in the future... I'm open to other people's opinions.
Sonic
Yep, anyone who knows how vectors work understands, no??
In maths, you have to draw vector graphs for our Higher exams up here, but they still look flat because the are on paper.
In maths, you have to draw vector graphs for our Higher exams up here, but they still look flat because the are on paper.
Bonus wrote:
> But why do we need real 3D games?? I'm quite happy playing them on
> a TV, rather than having a Star Trek style Holodeck.
Why do we need computer games... I quite happy watching Star Trek, I dont want to play within the Star Trek universe?
> But why do we need real 3D games?? I'm quite happy playing them on
> a TV, rather than having a Star Trek style Holodeck.
Why do we need computer games... I quite happy watching Star Trek, I dont want to play within the Star Trek universe?
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