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Wed 06/06/01 at 20:57
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You may be wondering about what is meant in the title? Well, although games are designed and perceived as 3d worlds, they are still shown on a 2d screen, and are still interacted with in only 2d... usually simply with a "jump" button to allow some 3rd dimensional freedom.

So... how do u solve this? Simple... make a Holodeck!

Ok, so it's not easy- but there is a way...

Does anyone here know Jez San? He's head of Argonauts, and in the top 100 rich list after having sold the hardware part of the company. Anyway, before he sold the company, they reveilled a new display device that escentially projected a 3d image above it! Now... if only they could get an and release it! (Although no news has been heard)

Another idea is one that the US military uses to track its tanks. It's a horizontal screen that you look down onto, but the image is in 3d! Fantastic... if only someone could make a cheap version of it!

The final idea for display devices that I have just remembered is a new type of TV... the program is filmed from several angles, and these are then converted into a signal to the TV, where they are remade... in 3d! Like the virtual boy's display, but only you don't need to look into gogles, and when finnished will be i full colour and high resolution. This idea is being developed by some top Japanese company (I think that it is Toshiba).

Now. How to interact with this world? Well, we've tried 3D gloves, and big virtual reality boxes are a bit big! But thinking about it, all controllers are the same- plastic with coloured buttons on... can no-noe think of something better? Maybe some sort of eye-tracking device that could tell how far away you were looking? Maybe not.. but something needs to be used!

Anyway, my final point. Some of you may ask "Why not play games as they are... anyway, this new 3D environment would be too hard to get lots of people to adopt, and will also alienate so many gamers." The answer is this... "Eventually in the future of gaming this idea will be faced... and conquered. It's enevitable, and this being the FOG means that it's totally relevant"

I'll see u in 50 years when we plug ourselves into games ala eXistenZ ;)

Sonic
Thu 07/06/01 at 11:58
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And if we cannot discus the future of gaming in a FOG discussin forum, then where??
Thu 07/06/01 at 11:57
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Bonus wrote:
> Could you see that happening really, and someone creating a virus
> which wipes your brain's memory. Thats a little far fetched, but
> you never know do you.


but this is the fog... if we can't speculate about the future here, then where?

Sonic
Thu 07/06/01 at 11:50
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Could you see that happening really, and someone creating a virus which wipes your brain's memory. Thats a little far fetched, but you never know do you.
Thu 07/06/01 at 11:48
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Bonus wrote:
> I really don't think the full 3D immersion is the way to go, VR will
> be quite cool, but it will have to co-exist witht the current
> hardware systems, and anything else just seems inconcievable. It
> may be one thing to fool your eyes and ears, but to fool your
> touch/smell etc. would involve tampering with the brain, I'm not
> really up for that. You couldn't have yourself walking aroung
> looming at things and hearing them without being able to touch them,
> and the current crop of game on 3D projected Tvs or something, just
> wouldn't be any different than being seen on a 2D plane, so, how do
> you see this working??


I'm not sure about whoever suggested full immersion meaning taste and touche (not yet anyway!)...

But have u seen that great David Cronnenburg film "eXistenZ". It's about people in the future plugging themselves into games... good film, worth seeing

Sonic
Thu 07/06/01 at 11:42
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I really don't think the full 3D immersion is the way to go, VR will be quite cool, but it will have to co-exist witht the current hardware systems, and anything else just seems inconcievable. It may be one thing to fool your eyes and ears, but to fool your touch/smell etc. would involve tampering with the brain, I'm not really up for that. You couldn't have yourself walking aroung looming at things and hearing them without being able to touch them, and the current crop of game on 3D projected Tvs or something, just wouldn't be any different than being seen on a 2D plane, so, how do you see this working??
Thu 07/06/01 at 11:05
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wey hey
Thu 07/06/01 at 10:59
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BINGO!
Thu 07/06/01 at 10:59
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Thu 07/06/01 at 10:58
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Thu 07/06/01 at 10:58
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Mr.Snuggly wrote:
> How many more messages have I got to go now?


Who are u? A staff memebr who I have not seen,,, what's your position in SR?

Sonic

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