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Sun 04/09/05 at 21:52
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"@RichSmedley"
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After Englands lackluster performance in the last 2 games will they win?

I'm not sure.

Will the formation be the same and will Owen return to the squad or not?

Again not sure.

Discuss.
Thu 08/09/05 at 20:29
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"Comfortably Numb"
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ßìgGíË Li††lÊ Jn® wrote:
> The next English manager has to be English and a winner.

It seems that european managers are better than English. (Apart from Alf Ramsey.)
Thu 08/09/05 at 20:15
"LOLLERSKATES!"
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The next English manager has to be English and a winner.
Thu 08/09/05 at 19:54
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The next England manager needs to want England to win.
Thu 08/09/05 at 19:32
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No, the next England manager has to be a winner.
Thu 08/09/05 at 19:23
"LOLLERSKATES!"
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The next England manager has to be English.
Thu 08/09/05 at 19:15
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"sdomehtongng"
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munn wrote:
> You only have to look at Berti Vogts at Scotland. He came to
> the team with good credentials (though i can't remember what), but
> couldn't get teh players to play as a unit.

He won Euro 96 with Germany.

The thing is, though, he's German, which made a world of difference, as we found out.
Thu 08/09/05 at 19:14
"LOLLERSKATES!"
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Of course he will be, he has only lost 4 competitive matches (I think; portugal, brazil ,northern ireland, france), he earns £4million a year and people always say the manager will be sacked after a bad performance. Having said that, thats 3 on the trot, and he has got to go if we do anything less than qualify from the groups at the world cup.
Thu 08/09/05 at 19:11
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"@RichSmedley"
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Who think's Sven will be leading us into the next match? I bet he will but unless we win I can't see him leading us into the next one.
Thu 08/09/05 at 18:16
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munn wrote:
> Souness is an awful manager though.
Thu 08/09/05 at 15:02
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RastaBillySkank wrote:
> Tell that to Ferguson. Look at the players he's got and look at their
> (by their standards) average season last year.

They came third last season behind Chelsea and Arsenal, fair enough it's awful by THEIR standards, but the other two teams have better players, so it's not exactly bad management (although he could have done better, yes).

> Tell that to Souness where the same applies.

Souness is an awful manager though. His only achievement seems to be from when he was at Rangers, and that's only because he was the first manager in Scotland to get good money to spend on good players.

> Then look at David Moyes and see what he did with Everton last year.

That's called good management though, he doesn't have the best players, but makes the players play as a team, and that's why they perform so well. That's what a national team's maanger should be like. You only have to look at Berti Vogts at Scotland. He came to the team with good credentials (though i can't remember what), but couldn't get teh players to play as a unit. Walter Smtih comes along, and with the same players, turns teh team around completely.

> Not everything's about the players.

Yeah, it's to do with the manager too, that's the point.

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